Obama Playing Politics With Bush Tax-cut Again

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    Obama threatened Congress not to attach the Keystone pipeline deal to the tax-cut extension yesterday.

    Wait a minute.....hasn't Obama and the rest of the Democrats been telling the Republicans to drop the cuts in every private negotiation since the debt-ceiling crisis?

    So let me get this right; Obama doesn't like the tax-cuts and he doesn't like the Keystone Pipeline deal ether. So why does he think he can get away with this threat? Does he actually think we haven't been paying attention, or is he simply playing to the mindless nimrods that still want to vote for him even after he's turned out to be the disaster that I and others have predicted?

    BTW, Obama said he's not leaving Washington on another Hawaiian vacation till this extension is pushed through for yet again another year. Why not make it permanent like Bush asked them to do for years?

    FYI, the Dems insisted that the cuts not be made permanent. Remember that? That is the only why they could get it passed in the first place, and now they're using it like a club over the GOP simply because they think we have short memories.

    I suggest that Congress not vote on it till next Summer. Maybe the prick will be forced to do some work then. Personally, I think everyone needs to find out what will happen if the cuts expire like the Democrats want. The deal here is the Dems are trying to find a way of blaming it all on the Republicans.
     
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    End the Bush tax cuts, period. Add another tax bracket for those above one million. Cut our military budget to the point that we are spending only as much as the next 7 countries combined, instead of as much as the next 14 countries combined.

    Make the amount paid by the individual for SS apply to all income, no upper limit. Solves the SS problem for good. Go for full universal health care, paid for by an addition on all Income Taxes. That takes care of Medicare and Mediaid.
     
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    Give you're entire paycheck to the government in other words.

    I'm glad you didn't neg-rep me for once.

    That's a first. :eusa_clap:
     
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    Of course a libs solution. cut OUR DEFENSE.
     
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    Defense is a misnomer. Because the type of military we have now was never advocated by the founders or the Constitution.

    What we have is a military that projects American power. We have a military that allows our private enterprise to exploit the natural resources of other countries. There's nothing defensive about that.

    "National Interests" are not defense. Hardening the borders against invasion and the prevention of insurrection is defense. And for that we have over 2000 nukes, a huge navy, 2 oceans and several large mountain ranges that assure this country will never be invaded.
     
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    'Conservative' solution, cut education, SS, and all social programs.

    When our military spends as much as the next 14 largest militarys in the world, one has to ask how much is enough? And for what purpose? Who is the enemy? What resources do they have? All questions that are going to be repeated not only by Ron Paul, but also by many liberals, independents, and, yes, conservatives.
     
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    He's looking for congress to stop tying unrelated nonsense into legislation. In other words, he wants a clean bill.

    By the way..he's the president. He can do that.
     
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    Cut the military? Good god man. Are you a moron? We have our men and women involved in ten fucking conflicts globally and you want to CUT the military?

    If anything, we should reinstate the draft and teach idiots like you how to fight/operate a rifle.
     
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    Part of the reason we spend so much and they so little is because of our habit of providing defense for everyone. Maybe that should change. However the reason we do is partly because of our global interests, meaning we're trading partners with just about everyone. Armed aggression tends to put a damper on free trade.
     
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    No way. They might shoot one of us in the ass.
     

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