Obama: "Parasites of the World Unite"

[mudwhistle]

And yet banks and corpoyations are hoarding record amounts of cash.

Also strange that Pub whites are on welfare and other entitlements at the same rate as white Dems. The whole argument is pure pubcrappe.

Out of fear of a crazy assed socialist President.

If Obama were to evaporate tonight this country would be in better hands tomorrow......even if it means Joe (Plugs) Biden is President.

 

[francoHFW]

Keep it up, you're our best argument, troll. LOL

 

[Mustang]

And yet banks and corpoyations are hoarding record amounts of cash.

Also strange that Pub whites are on welfare and other entitlements at the same rate as white Dems. The whole argument is pure pubcrappe.

Out of fear of a crazy assed socialist President.

If Obama were to evaporate tonight this country would be in better hands tomorrow......even if it means Joe (Plugs) Biden is President.

The only 'crazy assed' people I see these days are rabid conservatives. You guys have long sinced jumped the moon when it comes to over-the-top hyperbolic rhetoric. That kind of language tells independents (whose votes you need to win the coming election) that you (the collective you) are either not serious people engaging in serious dialogue, or...you're just plain unhinged. And you know what? People perceived as unhinged (or the more generic, crazy, if you prefer) generally fail to convince rational people that their arguments have merit.

To that I say, keep on truckin'.

 

[mudwhistle]

And yet banks and corpoyations are hoarding record amounts of cash.

Also strange that Pub whites are on welfare and other entitlements at the same rate as white Dems. The whole argument is pure pubcrappe.

Out of fear of a crazy assed socialist President.

If Obama were to evaporate tonight this country would be in better hands tomorrow......even if it means Joe (Plugs) Biden is President.

The only 'crazy assed' people I see these days are rabid conservatives. You guys have long sinced jumped the moon when it comes to over-the-top hyperbolic rhetoric. That kind of language tells independents (whose votes you need to win the coming election) that you (the collective you) are either not serious people engaging in serious dialogue, or...you're just plain unhinged. And you know what? People perceived as unhinged (or the more generic, crazy, if you prefer) generally fail to convince rational people that their arguments have merit.

To that I say, keep on truckin'.

Oh.....horseshit.

We don't hold a candle to those idiots in Washington.

"They're the party of Dirty-air, Dirty-water, they want to starve children, push Grandma out in the street, they protect the rich, and molest puppies."

Pot meet kettle motherfucker.

 

[francoHFW]

Except that's true (I didn't know about the puppies), and you're a brainwashed Beck/Rushbot.

 

[P@triot]

You are truly an idiot of epic proportions.

Please see my signature.

You might want to consider not wasting bandwidth further with pointless, gratuitous insults that really say nothing bad about the person they're directed towards but do suggest that your mother raised you without any manners and you still need to grow up. Just a suggestion, of course.

There is no "best feature" of Soviet-sytle Socialism. None.

Sure there is, several of them in fact. Full employment, relatively narrow income gaps, high levels of economic security. If the system had literally NOTHING going for it, the Russian people wouldn't have supported it for more than seventy years.

In spite of which it didn't compare favorably to the social democracies of western Europe and (at that time) the U.S., any more than laissez-faire capitalism did (although for different reasons). So I'm certainly not recommending that system. But to claim that it had no beneficial features at all is nonsensical hyperbole.

See what I mean about being an idiot of epic proportions? You're so brainwashed and ill informed, you actually believe "Russian people supported it for more than seventy years"?!?!? Dude - they were forced at the barrel of a gun to follow Communism. Why don't you learn your history before making statements on a subject?!?!?

Do you have any idea how many tens of thousands of people Joseph Stalin murdered in the name of their Socialism/Communism? Clearly not.

 

[Contumacious]

Economic fascism is that socioeconomic system which allows entrepreneurs to retain ownership of their businesses but under heavy government regulation.

Then you are using the term "fascism" deliberately to communicate a falsehood, namely that we should react to this misuse of the term with the same loathing that we have for one-party states, concentration camps, and similar abuses by REAL fascism.

You are a liar.

Here , let one of fascism Founding Fathers explain it for you:

...The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone....

Benito Mussolini


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[tinydancer]

"Obama’s Long Live Karl Marx Speech


Their philosophy is simple: we are better off when everyone is left to fend for themselves and play by their own rules.

Well, I’m here to say they are wrong

It’s a simple theory – one that speaks to our rugged individualism and healthy skepticism of too much government. It fits well on a bumper sticker. Here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible post-war boom of the 50s and 60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade.

For this, Roosevelt was called a radical, a socialist, even a communist

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How many of these right wingers are living in trailers, collecting Social Security and calling poor people "parasites"?

OK now, how many of these right wingers are going to ask, "What's wrong with living in a trailer?" I always get that.

You don't get jack shit nancy boy.

Living in a trailer park sometimes isn't a choice for a lot of people. And it's not political. Now for me I chose a trailer in a place called Burkes Trailer Park in a place called Nunnelly Tennessee.

You live down the road from Weems. They pretty well owned this town. Half the boys were good and the other half thought they could ride rough shod over everyone else.

My only trump card was my name and I can handle a hawken. And I made my stand drawing a bead on the eldest.

And this name of mine trumps everyones when it comes to Kentucky Tennessee land.

But there are awesome people in these trailer parks. Good people. You want to look down at them? Honest people making an honest living at a grocery store and still hunting with you off a ridge?

fuck you yankee boy. even if you are south of the mason dixon I will still hold you as a yankee wuss.

you disgust me. and your mama should be ashamed of you.

 

[Contumacious]

Back then it was slaves that helped the wealthy.

I suppose it is true that the GOP wants a return to those wonderful times.

Have I said anything that can be construed as supporting slavery?

Do you know many Libertarians who support slavery?

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No you haven't.

No I don't.

In my opinion a fair division of wealth combines a fair days wage with a liberal tax code.

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The federal government has no authority to "fairly divide wealth" - whatever the fuck that means.

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[JakeStarkey]

Love the libertarian spin here.

The criminal by nature will be a lilbertarian.

Pedophiles are good examples of those who adopt libertarianism.

Tis what tis, libers.

 

[Sallow]

"Obama’s Long Live Karl Marx Speech


Their philosophy is simple: we are better off when everyone is left to fend for themselves and play by their own rules.

Well, I’m here to say they are wrong

It’s a simple theory – one that speaks to our rugged individualism and healthy skepticism of too much government. It fits well on a bumper sticker. Here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible post-war boom of the 50s and 60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade.

For this, Roosevelt was called a radical, a socialist, even a communist

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This is how the GOP views the elderly, the improvished, the sick, and the young.

They view these human beings as parasites.

It's kinda like the Nazi world view. They viewed political opponents as Communists, Socialists, Liberals and Jews.

And thought the "parasites" and opponents needed extermination.

 

[Full-Auto]

Love the libertarian spin here.

The criminal by nature will be a lilbertarian.

Pedophiles are good examples of those who adopt libertarianism.

Tis what tis, libers.

When are you finally going to have the balls to post those links asswipe?

 

[JakeStarkey]

"Obama’s Long Live Karl Marx Speech


Their philosophy is simple: we are better off when everyone is left to fend for themselves and play by their own rules.

Well, I’m here to say they are wrong

It’s a simple theory – one that speaks to our rugged individualism and healthy skepticism of too much government. It fits well on a bumper sticker. Here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible post-war boom of the 50s and 60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade.

For this, Roosevelt was called a radical, a socialist, even a communist

.

This is how the GOP views the elderly, the improvished, the sick, and the young. The view these human beings as parasites. It's kinda like the Nazi world view. They viewed political opponents as Communists, Socialists, Liberals and Jews. And thought the "parasites" and opponents needed extermination.

Not most GOP and we are doing our best to get rid of those you so well describe.

 

[Dragon]

[the Russians] were forced at the barrel of a gun to follow Communism.

And that forcing somehow worked for 70 years and then suddenly, for some mysterious and incomprehensible reason, didn't work any more in 1991?

No. No government can exist by force alone. All governments rule by the consent of the governed, or anyway by most of the governed. The Soviet Union had that for decades. It lost it for two reasons; one, it failed to deliver the workers' paradise that was promised; two, a generation grew up after the Revolution knowing nothing to compare it with except contemporary societies in the West.

You can govern a foreign country by force, if you're stronger than they are and willing to take endless casualties from insurgent movements. You cannot govern your own that way. They must consent and support.

 

[Sallow]

You are truly an idiot of epic proportions.

Please see my signature.

You might want to consider not wasting bandwidth further with pointless, gratuitous insults that really say nothing bad about the person they're directed towards but do suggest that your mother raised you without any manners and you still need to grow up. Just a suggestion, of course.

There is no "best feature" of Soviet-sytle Socialism. None.

Sure there is, several of them in fact. Full employment, relatively narrow income gaps, high levels of economic security. If the system had literally NOTHING going for it, the Russian people wouldn't have supported it for more than seventy years.

In spite of which it didn't compare favorably to the social democracies of western Europe and (at that time) the U.S., any more than laissez-faire capitalism did (although for different reasons). So I'm certainly not recommending that system. But to claim that it had no beneficial features at all is nonsensical hyperbole.

See what I mean about being an idiot of epic proportions? You're so brainwashed and ill informed, you actually believe "Russian people supported it for more than seventy years"?!?!? Dude - they were forced at the barrel of a gun to follow Communism. Why don't you learn your history before making statements on a subject?!?!?

Do you have any idea how many tens of thousands of people Joseph Stalin murdered in the name of their Socialism/Communism? Clearly not.

You're kinda right. The Czars were overthrown..at the point of a gun. Much like the most revolutions, including the one in this country.

And many people died after the revolutions. Both of them.

Where's your critique about what happened in America? It wasn't bloodless..and eventually cost the lives of tens of thousands.

 

[Sallow]

"Obama’s Long Live Karl Marx Speech


Their philosophy is simple: we are better off when everyone is left to fend for themselves and play by their own rules.

Well, I’m here to say they are wrong

It’s a simple theory – one that speaks to our rugged individualism and healthy skepticism of too much government. It fits well on a bumper sticker. Here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible post-war boom of the 50s and 60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade.

For this, Roosevelt was called a radical, a socialist, even a communist

.

This is how the GOP views the elderly, the improvished, the sick, and the young. The view these human beings as parasites. It's kinda like the Nazi world view. They viewed political opponents as Communists, Socialists, Liberals and Jews. And thought the "parasites" and opponents needed extermination.

Not most GOP and we are doing our best to get rid of those you so well describe.

Well I wish you would hurry up. I thought the putting poor children in work house debate was over..about a century ago.

 

[Dragon]

Here , let one of fascism Founding Fathers explain it for you:

Don't even bother. Self-serving claptrap from Mussolini will not make your case for you.

Let's cut to the chase. The point is that "fascism" carries a heavy negative overtone, and NONE of that association derives from its economic features, assuming it has any. ALL of it comes from fascist POLITICS: one-party state, dictatorship, suppression of dissent, concentration camps, secret police, censorship, militarism, warmongering. That's what most people MEAN by "fascist," whether they are technically correct according to Mussolini's chapter and verse or not.

So when you call social democracies "fascist" on the basis of their economics, you are obviously trying to imply that such countries are warmongering one-party dictatorships that suppress dissent with concentration camps, censorship, and secret police. Otherwise, you wouldn't bother using the word "fascist" to describe their economies.

So, quit hiding behind the ill-defined word. ARE you saying that social democracies are warmongering one-party dictatorships that suppress dissent with concentration camps, censorship, and secret police?

Yes or no.

 

[Contumacious]

Obama Gives A Speech On Inequality, Fox Hears An Assault On Freedom | Media Matters for America

Obama Gives A Speech On Inequality, Fox Hears An Assault On Freedom


And Fox was wrong because......


The Federal government acquired the constitutional authority to correct "inequality " how?

.

 

[Dragon]

The Federal government acquired the constitutional authority to correct "inequality " how?

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; . . . To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"

U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8.

 

[Sallow]

Obama Gives A Speech On Inequality, Fox Hears An Assault On Freedom | Media Matters for America

Obama Gives A Speech On Inequality, Fox Hears An Assault On Freedom


And Fox was wrong because......


The Federal government acquired the constitutional authority to correct "inequality " how?

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Sheesh..right in the preamble.

The Constitution of the United States

Preamble Note

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.