Obama paraphrase....I'm not ready to be President in 08

[Chris]

Ah yes silly, I know he doesn't have enough experience to be President. Obama at least in 2004 agrees with me.

Why are responding to a posting to Charles about a different issue?

 

[jreeves]

Why are responding to a posting to Charles about a different issue?

Sorry when I see BS i feel compelled to respond....I will try in the future to ignore ignorant posts, sorry...

 

[Chris]

Sorry when I see BS i feel compelled to respond....I will try in the future to ignore ignorant posts, sorry...

Speaking of BS.

Charles was saying we didn't know anything about Obama. That is ridiculous. He has been in the public eye for many years. We know just about everything there is to know about him.

 

[jreeves]

Speaking of BS.

Charles was saying we didn't know anything about Obama. That is ridiculous. He has been in the public eye for many years. We know just about everything there is to know about him.

Be honest with yourself without google, name how many pieces of legislation he passed before announcing his run for the presidency?

 

[Charles_Main]

That's the silliest thing you have ever posted. All these guys have had their live probed to the nth degree. Not to mention ten million debates and twelve million public speeches.

Then there is this thing called the Internet. Read about Obama at this link.....

Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing silly about it at all. I follow this shit pretty close, and the only thing I am sure of about Obama is he wants to be president and is willing to say just about anything to get there.

I guess I should clarify, I thought I knew where Obama stood on most issues, until the primary ended and he started his rampant revising of his stances. So now I have a hard time believing anything the guy says, and I think most Americans should too. Hence my original Comment about it being foolish to support him.

 

[akiak]

The lefties and college pin heads are ready for him but real flag waving, clear thinking Americans are not for a man of his character and lack of experience.

Vote 08 Here

 

[Chris]

Nothing silly about it at all. I follow this shit pretty close, and the only thing I am sure of about Obama is he wants to be president and is willing to say just about anything to get there.

I guess I should clarify, I thought I knew where Obama stood on most issues, until the primary ended and he started his rampant revising of his stances. So now I have a hard time believing anything the guy says, and I think most Americans should too. Hence my original Comment about it being foolish to support him.

This is the talking point that the Republicans are using now that he is a "flip flopper." They did the same thing with John Kerry in the last election. Obama has been pretty consistance in his positions. It makes a nice story for FoxNews, however. It shows how little they have on him. They have to make something up. They have to Swiftboat him somehow.

 

[Chris]

Be honest with yourself without google, name how many pieces of legislation he passed before announcing his run for the presidency?

I thought Congress passed legislation. My bad.

 

[Charles_Main]

Knowing about a man, and Knowing what his policies will be are not the same think by the way.

Kirk are you actually trying to say he has not made some rather drastic shifts is position since winning the primary?

Oh and keep in mind I do not like McCain either, I am voting for Bob Barr. So you can relax since we all know a vote for Barr is a vote for Obama right

 

[Chris]

The lefties and college pin heads are ready for him but real flag waving, clear thinking Americans are not for a man of his character and lack of experience.

Vote 08 Here

"Flag waving, clear thinking Americans?"

You mean like the ones that voted for George Bush?

 

[jreeves]

I thought Congress passed legislation. My bad.

How pieces of legislation did he sponsor that became law? Without google....

 

[jreeves]

"Flag waving, clear thinking Americans?"

You mean like the ones that voted for George Bush?

No like the ones that know a community organizer doesn't qualify you for the presidency....


Obama agreed by the way, but he flip flopped now he says he is qualified.....LOL

 

[Chris]

Knowing about a man, and Knowing what his policies will be are not the same think by the way.

Kirk are you actually trying to say he has not made some rather drastic shifts is position since winning the primary?

That is exactly what I am saying.

He wants to get us out of Iraq as soon as possible. He doesn't want us to be there for "a hundred years" like McCain. Plus McCain is going to choose Mitt Romney for VP, and if McCain dies in office, then that *sshole will be president.

 

[Chris]

No like the ones that know a community organizer doesn't qualify you for the presidency....


Obama agreed by the way, but he flip flopped now he says he is qualified.....LOL

Obama is one of the most qualified men to run for president in a long time. He went to Harvard Law and graduated Magna Cum Laude. He worked in international business. He worked as a civil rights attorney. He taught constitutional law. He was a state legislator. He is a U.S. Senator. He is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee which means he has been getting the top secret CIA briefings for years. He is thoughtful, intelligent, and charismatic. He will present a new face of America to the world. A multicultural, multiracial face. This is very important, because we need the world's help in achieving our goals. Bush Sr. understood this. Clinton understood this. Bush the Lesser did not.

 

[jreeves]

That is exactly what I am saying.

He wants to get us out of Iraq as soon as possible. He doesn't want us to be there for "a hundred years" like McCain. Plus McCain is going to choose Mitt Romney for VP, and if McCain dies in office, then that *sshole will be president.

As soon as possible....hmmm....March of 2008, now, as soon as conditions allow or within 16 months?? Those are all timeframes he has used?

 

[jreeves]

Obama is one of the most qualified men to run for president in a long time. He went to Harvard Law and graduated Magna Cum Laude. He worked in international business. He worked as a civil rights attorney. He taught constitutional law. He was a state legislator. He is a U.S. Senator. He is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee which means he has been getting the top secret CIA briefings for years. He is thoughtful, intelligent, and charismatic. He will present a new face of America to the world. A multicultural, multiracial face. This is very important, because we need the world's help in achieving our goals. Bush Sr. understood this. Clinton understood this. Bush the Lesser did not.

I see you can't answer the question about, how many pieces of legislation he sponsored that became law before he announced his candidacy, without the help of google. I see, I'll give you the answer 1....

LOL he serves on the Senate Foreign Relations and he hasn't held one hearing on the war in Afgan., he has never visited Afgan., he has never met with Gen. Patraeus....But he is qualified LOL

 

[Charles_Main]

That is exactly what I am saying.

He wants to get us out of Iraq as soon as possible. He doesn't want us to be there for "a hundred years" like McCain. Plus McCain is going to choose Mitt Romney for VP, and if McCain dies in office, then that *sshole will be president.

Thanks for the answer, Can't say I agree but at least you responded. Iraq is by far not the only issue he has changed on.

Oh and why wont you include the entire quote from McCain and not just the 100 years part. After all he did clarify it with "as long as American are not getting killed". Oh wait it does not hurt him as bad if you include that eh. Someone sure is partisan here, and considering who I am voting for I know it is not me.

 

[akiak]

No the ones who voted against Al "the carbonator" Gore and Swift boat Kerry.

 

[Jeepers]

I see you can't answer the question about, how many pieces of legislation he sponsored that became law before he announced his candidacy, without the help of google. I see, I'll give you the answer 1....

LOL he serves on the Senate Foreign Relations and he hasn't held one hearing on the war in Afgan., he has never visited Afgan., he has never met with Gen. Patraeus....But he is qualified LOL

Since when is meeting with Petraeus a qualifier for president... and.. please breakdown the dynamics of the Senate Foreign Relations committe.. You brought it up as some kind of slight against Obama, yet I would hazard a guess that you know dick about it....


How about his full senatorial carreer .. OUCH.... LOL...

Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:

Two addressed foreign policy:
Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

Three addressed public health:
Improve mine safety (2803)
Increased breast cancer funding (597)
Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).

Two addressed openness and accountability in government:
Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488)
Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

Two addressed national security
Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467)
Amend the Patriot Act (2167)

One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces
Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).

Of the 570 bills Senator Obama introduced into the Senate during the 109th and 110th Congress (Senate Bill numbers are in parentheses), they can be summarized as follows:

25 addressed Energy Efficiency and Climate Change
Suspend royalty relief for oil and gas (115)
Reduce dependence on oil; use of alternative energy sources (133)
Increase fuel economy standards for cars (767, 768)
Auto industry incentives for fuel efficient vehicles (1151)
Reduce green house gas emissions (1324)
Establish at NSF a climate change education program (1389)
Increase renewable content of gasoline (2202)
Energy emergency relief for small businesses and farms (269)
Strategic gasoline and fuel reserves (1794)
Alternative diesel standards (3554)
Coal to liquid fuel promotion (3623)
Renewable diesel standards (1920)
Reducing global warming pollution from vehicles (2555)
Fuel security and consumer choice (1994, 2025)
Alternative energy refueling system (2614)
Climate change education (1389)
Low income energy assistance (2405)
Oil savings targets (339)
Fuel economy reform (3694)
Plug-in electric drive vehicles (1617)
Nuclear release notice (2348)
Passenger rail investment (294)
Energy relief for low income families (2405)

21 addressed Health Care
Drug re-importation (334)
Health information technology (1262, 1418)
Discount drug prices (2347)
Health care associated infections (2278)
Hospital quality report cards (692, 1824)
Medical error disclosure and compensation (1784)
Emergency medical care and response (1873)
Stem cell research (5)
Medical Malpractice insurance (1525)
Health centers renewal (901, 3771)
Children’s health insurance (401)
Home health care (2061)
Medicare independent living (2103)
Microbicides for HIV/AIDS (823)
Ovarian cancer biomarker research (2569)
Gynological cancers (1172)
Access to personalized medicine through use of human genome (976)
Paralysis research and care (1183)

20 addressed Public Health:
Violence against women (1197)
Biodefense and pandemic preparedness and response (1821, 1880)
Viral influenza control (969)
End homelessness (1518)
Reduce STDs/unintended pregnancy (1790)
Smoking prevention and tobacco control (625)
Minority health improvement and disparity elimination (4024)
Nutrition and physical education in schools (2066)
Health impact assessments (1067, 2506)
Healthy communities (1068)
Combat methamphetamines (2071)
Paid sick leave (910)
Prohibit mercury sales (833, 1818)
Prohibit sale of lead products (1306, 2132)
Lead exposure in children (1811, 2132)

14 address Consumer Protection/Labor
Stop unfair labor practices (842)
Fair minimum wage (2, 1062, 2725, 3829)
Internet freedom (2917)
Credit card safety (2411)
Media ownership (2332)
Protecting taxpayer privacy (2484)
Working family child assistance (218)
Habeus Corpus Restoration (185)
Bankruptcy protection for employees and retirees (2092)
FAA fair labor management dispute resolution (2201)
Working families flexibility (2419).

13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces:
Improve Benefits (117)
Suicide prevention (479)
Needs of homeless veterans (1180)
Homes for veterans (1084)
GI Bill enhancement (43)
Military job protection
Dignity in care for wounded vets (713)
Housing assistance for low income veterans (1084)
Military children in public schools (2151)
Military eye injury research and care (1999)
Research physical/mental health needs from Iraq War (1271)
Proper administration of discharge for personality disorder (1817, 1885)
Security of personal data of veterans (3592)

12 addressed Congressional Ethics and Accountability
Lobbying and ethics reform (230)
Stop fraud (2280)
Legislative transparency and accountability (525)
Open government (2180, 2488)
Restoring fiscal discipline (10)
Transparency and integrity in earmarks (2261)
Accountability of conference committee deliberations and reports (2179)
Federal funding accountability and transparency (2590)
Accountability and oversight for private security functions under Federal
contract (674)
Accountability for contractors and personnel under federal contracts
(2147) Resctrictions awarding government contracts (2519)

10 addressed Foreign Policy:
Iraq war de-escalation (313)
US policy for Iraq (433),
Divestiture from Iran (1430)
Sudan divestment authorization (831)
Millennium Development Goals (2433)
Multilateral debt relief (1320)
Development bank reform (1129)
Nuclear nonproliferation (3131,977,2224).

9 address Voting/Elections
Prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections (453)
Voter access to polls and services in Federal elections (737)
Voter intimidation and deceptive practices (1975)
Senate campaign disclosure parity (185)
Require reporting for bundled campaign contributions (2030)
Election jamming prevention (4102)
Campaign disclosure parity (223)
Presidential funding (2412)
Integrity of electronic voting systems (1487)

11 addressed Education
Increase access of low income African Americans to higher education (1513)
Establish teaching residency programs (1574)
Increase early intervention services (2111)
Middle school curriculum improvements (2227)
Public database of scholarships, fellowships and financial aid (2428)
Summer learning programs (116)
TANF financial education promotion (924)
Higher education (1642)
Build capacity at community colleges (379)
Campus law enforcement in emergencies (1228)
Support for teachers (2060).

6 addressed Hurrican Katrina
Hurricane Katrina recovery (2319)
Emergency relief (1637)
Bankruptcy relief and community protection (1647)
Working family tax relief (2257)
Fair wages for recovery workers (1749)
Gulf coast infrastructure redevelopment (1836)

5 addressed the Environment
Drinking water security (218, 1426)
Water resources development (728)
Waste water treatment (1995)
Combat illegal logging (1930)
Spent nuclear fuel tracking and Acountability (1194)
Asian Carp Prevention and Control Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.726.IS ]

4 addressed Discrimination
Claims for civil class action based on discrimination (1989)
Domestic partnership benefits (2521)
Unresolved civil rights crimes (535)
Equality or two parent families (2286)

4 addressed Homeland Security
Judicial review of FISA orders (2369)
National emergency family locator (1630)
Amend US Patriot Act (2167)
Chemical security and safety (2486)

 

[Wow]

Since when is meeting with Petraeus a qualifier for president... and.. please breakdown the dynamics of the Senate Foreign Relations committe.. You brought it up as some kind of slight against Obama, yet I would hazard a guess that you know dick about it....


How about his full senatorial carreer .. OUCH.... LOL...

Eggplant can sponsor or co-sponsor a bill.

The question is, what bills did Obama "write" and get "passed" into law?