Obama opponents NEVER satisfied

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Well, the first civilian trial of an Al Qaeda affiliate suspect in the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Nairobi, Tanzania and Kenya is over. And out of 280 charges, Mr. Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, 36, was found guilty of one. Conspiracy to destroy government property and buildings.

Outrageous, you say? Well, he's in for 20 years to life.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/nyregion/18ghailani.html

Now I know that emotions run high regarding all things related to Al Qaeda, but keep this in mind: This guy is going to do 20 YEARS before being considered for parole....how much you want to bet he's NOT going to get it?

A witness for the prosecution who says Ghailani received explosives and was more involved in the plot to attack the embassies was never heard by the jury because his testimomy was coerced (i.e., tortured), which is inadmissable in American court.

Now to prevent such things in the future...don't torture prisoners, and you have a better shot of faster trials with better sentencing because people wanted an execution sentence. So now the anti-Obama politicians and pundits are all screaming "Obama's civilian trials are a failure! He shames America's 9/11 victims, diminishes us in th eworld's eyes!"....which is interesesting being that the same detractors claimed that such trials could not happen on US soil due to the security risk. Welll, local residents and commuters were mostly unawares that such a trial was taking place in New York City!

So, we have a SAFE trial with a conviction....a hell of a lot more than Bush did for 8 years with all his Constitution/Bill of Rights bending actions. More to come, I'm sure.
 
So, we have a SAFE trial with a conviction....a hell of a lot more than Bush did for 8 years with all his Constitution/Bill of Rights bending actions. More to come, I'm sure
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Since when do we bring the enemy captured on the battlefield to the U.S. and give them Constitutional rights? Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would have been executed by now if not for you stupid libs. The Constitution does not apply to the enemy, you libs are such backwards idiots...Unreal!! :cuckoo:

Justice for KSM!!


220px-Khalid_Shaikh_Mohammed_after_capture.jpg
 
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This guy is the Attorney General...what a joke :eusa_eh:

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The author of the stupid original post subscribes to the absurd notion that we "should" treat terrorism in the same way we treat mere criminality.

It was precisely that kind of mindless liberal "thinking" that led to the kinds of problems that made 9/11/2001 possible.
 
'Coz we all know how well that worked out for Abdel Baset al-Megrahi.
psstt.... Lockerbie bomber

He wasn't supposed to ever see the light of day either.
 
Before returning fire, US Marines must read Insurgents their Miranda rights, it's right there in the Progressive Constitution
 
Do some here really think that torture should be OK? Would it be OK for other countries to Torture our soldiers to get the information they want if were capture because its their service instead of their courts and that makes it OK.

Were America, not the talaban or Alkaida or Iran or Saddam, we actually want people to look up to us because we are better than they are.

What part of all this is GOD's plan anyway.
 
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So, we have a SAFE trial with a conviction....a hell of a lot more than Bush did for 8 years with all his Constitution/Bill of Rights bending actions. More to come, I'm sure
.


Since when do we bring the enemy captured on the battlefield to the U.S. and give them Constitutional rights? Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would have been executed by now if not for you stupid libs. The Constitution does not apply to the enemy, you libs are such backwards idiots...Unreal!! :cuckoo:

Justice for KSM!!


220px-Khalid_Shaikh_Mohammed_after_capture.jpg

The constitution applies to human beings in our custody and jurisdiction you fuckin halfwit.

You have no more love of the constitution and the rule of law than most of the psycopathes in prison.
 
Do some here really think that torture should be OK? Would it be OK for other countries to Torture our soldiers to get the information they want if were capture because its their service instead of their courts and that makes it OK.

Were America, not the talaban or Alkaida or Iran or Saddam, we actually want people to look up to us because we are better than they are.

What part of all this is GOD's plan anyway.
WTF?
Where'd torture enter in?
:eusa_eh:
 
So, we have a SAFE trial with a conviction....a hell of a lot more than Bush did for 8 years with all his Constitution/Bill of Rights bending actions. More to come, I'm sure
.


Since when do we bring the enemy captured on the battlefield to the U.S. and give them Constitutional rights? Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would have been executed by now if not for you stupid libs. The Constitution does not apply to the enemy, you libs are such backwards idiots...Unreal!! :cuckoo:

Justice for KSM!!


220px-Khalid_Shaikh_Mohammed_after_capture.jpg

The constitution applies to human beings in our custody and jurisdiction you fuckin halfwit.

You have no more love of the constitution and the rule of law than most of the psycopathes in prison.

You know not whereof you speak.

Did we take Nazis to court to try their asses and threaten them with prison?

Nope.

We engaged them in battle.

And if we captured some of those fucks alive, we held them without trials in POW camps for an indefinite amount of time with not prospect of a trial or of habeas corpus or any of those other things associated with Constitutional rights.

Now, of course, al qaeda scumbags are different. They are not legal enemy combatants. They don't have uniforms, for example, and they have no concern for the laws and rules of war. So they aren't properly held as POWs. In fact, that status is a privilege to which they are not entitled. But, since we (unlike them) are civilized, we do treat them fairly well, in a manner akin to POWs. And certainly they deserve nothing better. So if a legitimate uniformed legal enemy combatant can be held without trial, then some al qaeda fuck can be so held, too.

And if there is any kind of prosecution to be had for their savage, barbaric war crime behavior, it should not give rise to greater rights than those enjoyed by captured, non-uniform wearing enemy saboteurs or spies. Summary execution would be appropriate. And Constitutional "rights" still are not applicable. Or, more accurately stated, they shouldn't be.

But given some recent arbitrary and aberrant Court rulings, there is no certainty anymore. Too bad.
 
So, we have a SAFE trial with a conviction....a hell of a lot more than Bush did for 8 years with all his Constitution/Bill of Rights bending actions. More to come, I'm sure
.


Since when do we bring the enemy captured on the battlefield to the U.S. and give them Constitutional rights? Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would have been executed by now if not for you stupid libs. The Constitution does not apply to the enemy, you libs are such backwards idiots...Unreal!! :cuckoo:

Justice for KSM!!


220px-Khalid_Shaikh_Mohammed_after_capture.jpg

The constitution applies to human beings in our custody and jurisdiction you fuckin halfwit.

You have no more love of the constitution and the rule of law than most of the psycopathes in prison.

Wrong idiot were in the Constitution does it say that? Hard to believe... You friken libs are like leaches reaping the benifits of real Americans that are willing to fight for our liberties
 
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This would not be a problem if our government was allowed to torture suspects and witnesses and their testimony under torture was admissable.

"This" (whatever boredtoseeya might mean by her use of that unclear indefinite pronoun here) would not be a problem?

To the extent our government might have any reason to use something close to torture to extract information from some terrorist piece of shit, the PURPOSE would not include the use of the information in a COURT proceeding.
 
Do some here really think that torture should be OK? Would it be OK for other countries to Torture our soldiers to get the information they want if were capture because its their service instead of their courts and that makes it OK.

Were America, not the talaban or Alkaida or Iran or Saddam, we actually want people to look up to us because we are better than they are.

What part of all this is GOD's plan anyway.

This is not God's plan, this is God's judgement!
 
The author of the stupid original post subscribes to the absurd notion that we "should" treat terrorism in the same way we treat mere criminality.

It was precisely that kind of mindless liberal "thinking" that led to the kinds of problems that made 9/11/2001 possible.

The funny thing is that the people who think that way voted for Obama based on his campaign rhetoric to the same. Sorta different now that he has to actually do the job now huh?
 
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Since when do we bring the enemy captured on the battlefield to the U.S. and give them Constitutional rights? Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would have been executed by now if not for you stupid libs. The Constitution does not apply to the enemy, you libs are such backwards idiots...Unreal!! :cuckoo:

Justice for KSM!!


220px-Khalid_Shaikh_Mohammed_after_capture.jpg

The constitution applies to human beings in our custody and jurisdiction you fuckin halfwit.

You have no more love of the constitution and the rule of law than most of the psycopathes in prison.

Wrong idiot were in the Constitution does it say that? Hard to believe... You friken libs are like leaches reaping the benifits of real Americans that are willing to fight for our liberties

Piss on you ya punk ass pussy. You don't have a clue what our military fought to preserve.

You are not impressing me with your chicken hawk babeling.

You don't know me. Not a "lib" asshole.

I don't need your worthless permission for anything. You are too fuckin stupid to have an opinion. But then you are not here to debate are you? You are here because you desperately need to try to impress internet strangers what a he-man you think you are. Anyone that knows you personally would and probably does bitch slap you every time you open your pie hole.

Your lame style obviously hides a scared little man that gave up his lunch money in school and would piss all over himself if he ever had to confront a grown man. You would be at the bottom of the food chain in my neighborhood sport. Try being more respectfull.

I don't give a rats ass if you are to weak too support the constitution .. you are the one that has to live with your pussy self....and you certainly don't have the nut sack to play "tough guy" anywhere but behind your keyboard.
 

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