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Peace through diplomacy works more often than not, you just remember the times it didn't.That is more correct, it is no accident that the only organized opposition to this deal is from conservatives in three nations. All of them Iran, Israel, and US are united in their goal to keeping a means to scare their own citizens into submission.Far left religious radicals? You are much too clueless to argue this topic.Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.
Iran was a modern, growing economy under the Shah. The Iranian people are a great people. The problem is that the far left religious radicals have taken control. Remove them and the problem is solved.
Sorry, should have said far right religious radicals. Happy now?
your ignorance is on full display. wars are started when nations have weak leaders. Peace through strength works. peace through appeasement is bullshit.
You might be interested to learn that Iran is also fighting ISIS.Yeah the point I was making is that Iran is not actually working hard to strike Israel and get bombed into oblivion as you seem to think they are. Not surprised you missed it.Iran had the capability to launch a dirty bomb 8-10 years ago when Bush was also trying to make them out to be an imminent nuclear threat. They came closer to getting bombed than at any point since. Your characterization is as false as his assertions.I understand the process quite well, probably better than you do. They could already build a dirty bomb and they have missiles capable of hitting most of europe and certainly israel.
the only thing holding them back is the threat of retaliation, but with a pussy like obama in the whitehouse that isn't much of a threat.
Its also not just what Iran might do. They could sell a dirty bomb to ISIS or some other radical group. Do you think ISIS would hesitate to nuke millions of Christians or Jews?
funny, it 3 sentences you contradict yourself and make my point. How's the crack pipe this morning?
Do you think ISIS would be murdering thousands if they knew that they would be vaporized the next day? These radicals exist because the world tolerates them, they exist because of PC idiots who feel sorry for them, they exist because of liberal idiots like you and obama.
You are so maddeningly, stupidly dense. We have the capability to do everything from sanctions to all out destruction of their country, they know it but somehow you think we closed the door on all of that.Peace through diplomacy works more often than not, you just remember the times it didn't.That is more correct, it is no accident that the only organized opposition to this deal is from conservatives in three nations. All of them Iran, Israel, and US are united in their goal to keeping a means to scare their own citizens into submission.Far left religious radicals? You are much too clueless to argue this topic.
Sorry, should have said far right religious radicals. Happy now?
your ignorance is on full display. wars are started when nations have weak leaders. Peace through strength works. peace through appeasement is bullshit.
diplomacy only works if you negotiate from a position of strength and refuse to compromise on your basic principles. Obozo and kerry broke every rule of negotiating. they are incompetent. Put someone like Trump at the negotiation table and you would get a good deal that both sides could live with. Kerry and obama did not negotiate, they surrendered.
You might be interested to learn that Iran is also fighting ISIS.Yeah the point I was making is that Iran is not actually working hard to strike Israel and get bombed into oblivion as you seem to think they are. Not surprised you missed it.Iran had the capability to launch a dirty bomb 8-10 years ago when Bush was also trying to make them out to be an imminent nuclear threat. They came closer to getting bombed than at any point since. Your characterization is as false as his assertions.
funny, it 3 sentences you contradict yourself and make my point. How's the crack pipe this morning?
Do you think ISIS would be murdering thousands if they knew that they would be vaporized the next day? These radicals exist because the world tolerates them, they exist because of PC idiots who feel sorry for them, they exist because of liberal idiots like you and obama.
Yeah, those Iranian fighter jets are just hammering away at ISIS in Syria. What planet do you live on?
You are so maddeningly, stupidly dense. We have the capability to do everything from sanctions to all out destruction of their country, they know it but somehow you think we closed the door on all of that.Peace through diplomacy works more often than not, you just remember the times it didn't.That is more correct, it is no accident that the only organized opposition to this deal is from conservatives in three nations. All of them Iran, Israel, and US are united in their goal to keeping a means to scare their own citizens into submission.Sorry, should have said far right religious radicals. Happy now?
your ignorance is on full display. wars are started when nations have weak leaders. Peace through strength works. peace through appeasement is bullshit.
diplomacy only works if you negotiate from a position of strength and refuse to compromise on your basic principles. Obozo and kerry broke every rule of negotiating. they are incompetent. Put someone like Trump at the negotiation table and you would get a good deal that both sides could live with. Kerry and obama did not negotiate, they surrendered.
You might be interested to learn that Iran is also fighting ISIS.Yeah the point I was making is that Iran is not actually working hard to strike Israel and get bombed into oblivion as you seem to think they are. Not surprised you missed it.funny, it 3 sentences you contradict yourself and make my point. How's the crack pipe this morning?
Do you think ISIS would be murdering thousands if they knew that they would be vaporized the next day? These radicals exist because the world tolerates them, they exist because of PC idiots who feel sorry for them, they exist because of liberal idiots like you and obama.
Yeah, those Iranian fighter jets are just hammering away at ISIS in Syria. What planet do you live on?
I live on the planet where people get their facts straight before posting on a message board.
I certainly believe he would if the situation called for it, but he is not going to listen to the same people you do, you know, the ones who told us Saddam was an imminent nuclear and biological threat to America and it's allies?You are so maddeningly, stupidly dense. We have the capability to do everything from sanctions to all out destruction of their country, they know it but somehow you think we closed the door on all of that.Peace through diplomacy works more often than not, you just remember the times it didn't.That is more correct, it is no accident that the only organized opposition to this deal is from conservatives in three nations. All of them Iran, Israel, and US are united in their goal to keeping a means to scare their own citizens into submission.
your ignorance is on full display. wars are started when nations have weak leaders. Peace through strength works. peace through appeasement is bullshit.
diplomacy only works if you negotiate from a position of strength and refuse to compromise on your basic principles. Obozo and kerry broke every rule of negotiating. they are incompetent. Put someone like Trump at the negotiation table and you would get a good deal that both sides could live with. Kerry and obama did not negotiate, they surrendered.
Do you really think that obama would strike his muslim brothers in Iran? Remember, he said "I will stand with the muslims........" and he is doing it.
Google "Iran fighting ISIS" read the hundreds of news stories over the last year and then STFU.You might be interested to learn that Iran is also fighting ISIS.Yeah the point I was making is that Iran is not actually working hard to strike Israel and get bombed into oblivion as you seem to think they are. Not surprised you missed it.
Do you think ISIS would be murdering thousands if they knew that they would be vaporized the next day? These radicals exist because the world tolerates them, they exist because of PC idiots who feel sorry for them, they exist because of liberal idiots like you and obama.
Yeah, those Iranian fighter jets are just hammering away at ISIS in Syria. What planet do you live on?
I live on the planet where people get their facts straight before posting on a message board.
uhhhh apparently not.
So let us see what I created verses what the left wing fanatics ignore.
You do realize the difference between debt and deficit? Your response seems to indicate to me that you do not. I don't mean that as an insult many people do not understand the difference or mix the two. Yes, since all of the big Banks and car companies have been bailed out the deficit (amount spent over the amount taken in) has decreased. But the debt (how much you own) is still increasing.
The left's surreal euphoria over allowing Iran's Holcaust-denying, "death to Israel" mullahs a path to nuclear weapons reminds me of the British doves' euphoria when Neville Chamberlain cut his infamous "peace in our time" deal with Hitler and the Nazis.
No rational, sane person can read the Obama-Kerry Iran "deal" and not see how absurdly flawed and dangerous it is. We have gone from Obama's "iron-clad" promise that Iran would be forced to shut down its nuke weapons program, including its infrastructure, and that we would have "anytime, anywhere" inspection verification--we've gone from that to allowing Iran--the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism--to keep their nuke infrastructure intact and to settling for supposedly expanding the breakout time to nuclear weapons! Surreal.
Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.
By giving them enough centrifuges to build a bomb, but not enough to run a nuclear power plant?The left's surreal euphoria over allowing Iran's Holcaust-denying, "death to Israel" mullahs a path to nuclear weapons reminds me of the British doves' euphoria when Neville Chamberlain cut his infamous "peace in our time" deal with Hitler and the Nazis.
ah, someone else using a flawed analogy.... don't you know that the goal at Munich was to play Hitler off against Stalin? Czechoslovakia was sold down the river because it was getting cozy with the USSR.
No rational, sane person can read the Obama-Kerry Iran "deal" and not see how absurdly flawed and dangerous it is. We have gone from Obama's "iron-clad" promise that Iran would be forced to shut down its nuke weapons program, including its infrastructure, and that we would have "anytime, anywhere" inspection verification--we've gone from that to allowing Iran--the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism--to keep their nuke infrastructure intact and to settling for supposedly expanding the breakout time to nuclear weapons! Surreal.
Actually, you don't know what you are talking about. The Iran agreement shuts down most of Iran's nuclear program and sets them back 25 years in making a bomb, if that's what they were ever doing to start with.
Quit acting like enriched Uranium is a nuclear weapons capability. Lost in this debate is the steep development curve beyond enrichment that still would put nuclear capability years away.By giving them enough centrifuges to build a bomb, but not enough to run a nuclear power plant?The left's surreal euphoria over allowing Iran's Holcaust-denying, "death to Israel" mullahs a path to nuclear weapons reminds me of the British doves' euphoria when Neville Chamberlain cut his infamous "peace in our time" deal with Hitler and the Nazis.
ah, someone else using a flawed analogy.... don't you know that the goal at Munich was to play Hitler off against Stalin? Czechoslovakia was sold down the river because it was getting cozy with the USSR.
No rational, sane person can read the Obama-Kerry Iran "deal" and not see how absurdly flawed and dangerous it is. We have gone from Obama's "iron-clad" promise that Iran would be forced to shut down its nuke weapons program, including its infrastructure, and that we would have "anytime, anywhere" inspection verification--we've gone from that to allowing Iran--the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism--to keep their nuke infrastructure intact and to settling for supposedly expanding the breakout time to nuclear weapons! Surreal.
Actually, you don't know what you are talking about. The Iran agreement shuts down most of Iran's nuclear program and sets them back 25 years in making a bomb, if that's what they were ever doing to start with.
The odd reality of Iran's centrifuges: Enough for a bomb, not power
Quit acting like enriched Uranium is a nuclear weapons capability. Lost in this debate is the steep development curve beyond enrichment that still would put nuclear capability years away.By giving them enough centrifuges to build a bomb, but not enough to run a nuclear power plant?The left's surreal euphoria over allowing Iran's Holcaust-denying, "death to Israel" mullahs a path to nuclear weapons reminds me of the British doves' euphoria when Neville Chamberlain cut his infamous "peace in our time" deal with Hitler and the Nazis.
ah, someone else using a flawed analogy.... don't you know that the goal at Munich was to play Hitler off against Stalin? Czechoslovakia was sold down the river because it was getting cozy with the USSR.
No rational, sane person can read the Obama-Kerry Iran "deal" and not see how absurdly flawed and dangerous it is. We have gone from Obama's "iron-clad" promise that Iran would be forced to shut down its nuke weapons program, including its infrastructure, and that we would have "anytime, anywhere" inspection verification--we've gone from that to allowing Iran--the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism--to keep their nuke infrastructure intact and to settling for supposedly expanding the breakout time to nuclear weapons! Surreal.
Actually, you don't know what you are talking about. The Iran agreement shuts down most of Iran's nuclear program and sets them back 25 years in making a bomb, if that's what they were ever doing to start with.
The odd reality of Iran's centrifuges: Enough for a bomb, not power
A nuclear weapons capability is a hell of a lot more than having enough fuel for "a bomb". It seems I have to explain it to you so here goes. Capability means being able to keep a weapon ready and deliverable. That requires so much testing and infrastructure building that it could never escape our notice and provide a lengthy buffer to decide how to attack that capability.Quit acting like enriched Uranium is a nuclear weapons capability. Lost in this debate is the steep development curve beyond enrichment that still would put nuclear capability years away.By giving them enough centrifuges to build a bomb, but not enough to run a nuclear power plant?The left's surreal euphoria over allowing Iran's Holcaust-denying, "death to Israel" mullahs a path to nuclear weapons reminds me of the British doves' euphoria when Neville Chamberlain cut his infamous "peace in our time" deal with Hitler and the Nazis.
ah, someone else using a flawed analogy.... don't you know that the goal at Munich was to play Hitler off against Stalin? Czechoslovakia was sold down the river because it was getting cozy with the USSR.
No rational, sane person can read the Obama-Kerry Iran "deal" and not see how absurdly flawed and dangerous it is. We have gone from Obama's "iron-clad" promise that Iran would be forced to shut down its nuke weapons program, including its infrastructure, and that we would have "anytime, anywhere" inspection verification--we've gone from that to allowing Iran--the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism--to keep their nuke infrastructure intact and to settling for supposedly expanding the breakout time to nuclear weapons! Surreal.
Actually, you don't know what you are talking about. The Iran agreement shuts down most of Iran's nuclear program and sets them back 25 years in making a bomb, if that's what they were ever doing to start with.
The odd reality of Iran's centrifuges: Enough for a bomb, not power
Obama Kept Iran's Short Breakout Time a Secret - Bloomberg View
The Barack Obama administration has estimated for years that Iran was at most three months away from enriching enough nuclear fuel for an atomic bomb. B
Like Clinton did with N Korea?A nuclear weapons capability is a hell of a lot more than having enough fuel for "a bomb". It seems I have to explain it to you so here goes. Capability means being able to keep a weapon ready and deliverable. That requires so much testing and infrastructure building that it could never escape our notice and provide a lengthy buffer to decide how to attack that capability.Quit acting like enriched Uranium is a nuclear weapons capability. Lost in this debate is the steep development curve beyond enrichment that still would put nuclear capability years away.By giving them enough centrifuges to build a bomb, but not enough to run a nuclear power plant?The left's surreal euphoria over allowing Iran's Holcaust-denying, "death to Israel" mullahs a path to nuclear weapons reminds me of the British doves' euphoria when Neville Chamberlain cut his infamous "peace in our time" deal with Hitler and the Nazis.
ah, someone else using a flawed analogy.... don't you know that the goal at Munich was to play Hitler off against Stalin? Czechoslovakia was sold down the river because it was getting cozy with the USSR.
No rational, sane person can read the Obama-Kerry Iran "deal" and not see how absurdly flawed and dangerous it is. We have gone from Obama's "iron-clad" promise that Iran would be forced to shut down its nuke weapons program, including its infrastructure, and that we would have "anytime, anywhere" inspection verification--we've gone from that to allowing Iran--the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism--to keep their nuke infrastructure intact and to settling for supposedly expanding the breakout time to nuclear weapons! Surreal.
Actually, you don't know what you are talking about. The Iran agreement shuts down most of Iran's nuclear program and sets them back 25 years in making a bomb, if that's what they were ever doing to start with.
The odd reality of Iran's centrifuges: Enough for a bomb, not power
Obama Kept Iran's Short Breakout Time a Secret - Bloomberg View
The Barack Obama administration has estimated for years that Iran was at most three months away from enriching enough nuclear fuel for an atomic bomb. B
We have pursued that path got thirty years. They still developed a nuclear program. By following your advice, Iran has a nuclear capability in a year.......Obama sets them back ten yearsOnce again...Obama wins and Republicans lose
Getting to be a habit
Once again Obama has to buy of his own party. Obama may win but we know that the country loses. His winning doesn't mean it is a good deal. Have you told your children lately how much debt Obama has heaped upon them?
Please explain your alternate reality if Republicans scuttle this treaty
What happens next?
Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.
Iran was a modern, growing economy under the Shah. The Iranian people are a great people. The problem is that the far left religious radicals have taken control. Remove them and the problem is solved.
We have pursued that path got thirty years. They still developed a nuclear program. By following your advice, Iran has a nuclear capability in a year.......Obama sets them back ten yearsOnce again...Obama wins and Republicans lose
Getting to be a habit
Once again Obama has to buy of his own party. Obama may win but we know that the country loses. His winning doesn't mean it is a good deal. Have you told your children lately how much debt Obama has heaped upon them?
Please explain your alternate reality if Republicans scuttle this treaty
What happens next?
Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.
Iran was a modern, growing economy under the Shah. The Iranian people are a great people. The problem is that the far left religious radicals have taken control. Remove them and the problem is solved.
