Obama on cusp of winning Iran nuclear vote

[Bfgrn]

George Bush who? Which one are they blaiming this time?

Remember the Iraq war was voted on by Congress, so is Mrs. Clinton also responsible.

How would Iraq keep Iran from building nuclear reactors? They engaged in wars with neither side winning or even giving up much ground.

10 years after the democrat take over, 6 1/2 years of Obama's rule and Bush is still the scape goat. Man that takes a lot of denial.

 

[Redfish]

Here's a better deal. Give Israel the green light to take out all of Iran's nuclear facilities, then the risk of iranian nukes would truly be zero

Except Israel isn't capable of dong it. That's why Bibi came begging to the USA.

yes they are, Jordan and Saudi Arabia could also do it.

 

[Redfish]

The so-called deal won't stop terrorists. The sanctions were destroying Iran's economy, they were working. With the sanctions in place they could not afford a nuclear program. Now, they have money and freedom to build whatever they want and sell them to whoever they want.

The naivte of obozo and you libs about the iranians is amazing. Their leaders scream "death to america and israel" and you silly fucks just laugh and say they don't really mean it.

liberalism is truly a mental disease.

WTF?

Great, the so-called deal doesn't stop any of that. Iran will have nuclear weapons with or without the deal. BUT, under the deal they also get billions of dollars from us and get the sanctions lifted.

the deal accomplished nothing except getting them nuclear capabilities sooner.

 

[Redfish]

Why will they still have 5000 centrifuges spinning? What would you be doing if you were a sponsor of terrorism and wished for the destruction of a people? Or at least SAID you do?

They do not have enough to produce the level of enriched uranium to produce a bomb......they do now

Why do you insist on keeping them?

So, since for about all of the last 10 years it has been democrat rule we can blame Obama for the mess in the first place? This deal is made to fix his failed foreign policy?

So let's go ahead a pass it and feel real good about ourselves. I am sure we can feel just as good as Chamberlain felt when he shook Hitler's hand.

Actually, the mess has been going on for sixty years when Eisenhower got involved

Your solution is allow them to continue on the current path which gets them a bomb within a year. Obama delays development for at least ten years and maybe never

Seems to me that the fear being spread last year in preparation for this "deal" was that Iran was going to have a bomb any day. They are still real far from having a bomb your predictions hold no water.

Actually, they have about three quarters of the enriched uranium they need

Your way allows them to keep it....how can that be better?

the obozo deal also allows them to keep it. are you living under a rock?

 

[rightwinger]

They do not have enough to produce the level of enriched uranium to produce a bomb......they do now

Why do you insist on keeping them?

So, since for about all of the last 10 years it has been democrat rule we can blame Obama for the mess in the first place? This deal is made to fix his failed foreign policy?

So let's go ahead a pass it and feel real good about ourselves. I am sure we can feel just as good as Chamberlain felt when he shook Hitler's hand.

Actually, the mess has been going on for sixty years when Eisenhower got involved

Your solution is allow them to continue on the current path which gets them a bomb within a year. Obama delays development for at least ten years and maybe never

Seems to me that the fear being spread last year in preparation for this "deal" was that Iran was going to have a bomb any day. They are still real far from having a bomb your predictions hold no water.

Actually, they have about three quarters of the enriched uranium they need

Your way allows them to keep it....how can that be better?

the obozo deal also allows them to keep it. are you living under a rock?

No, actually it does not allow them to keep it

They must give up their stockpiles of enriched uranium and it must be verified BEFORE sanctions are lifted

 

[mikegriffith1]

The left's surreal euphoria over allowing Iran's Holcaust-denying, "death to Israel" mullahs a path to nuclear weapons reminds me of the British doves' euphoria when Neville Chamberlain cut his infamous "peace in our time" deal with Hitler and the Nazis.

No rational, sane person can read the Obama-Kerry Iran "deal" and not see how absurdly flawed and dangerous it is. We have gone from Obama's "iron-clad" promise that Iran would be forced to shut down its nuke weapons program, including its infrastructure, and that we would have "anytime, anywhere" inspection verification--we've gone from that to allowing Iran--the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism--to keep their nuke infrastructure intact and to settling for supposedly expanding the breakout time to nuclear weapons! Surreal.

 

[Redfish]

Once again...Obama wins and Republicans lose

Getting to be a habit

Once again Obama has to buy of his own party. Obama may win but we know that the country loses. His winning doesn't mean it is a good deal. Have you told your children lately how much debt Obama has heaped upon them?

Please explain your alternate reality if Republicans scuttle this treaty

What happens next?

Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.

Iran was a modern, growing economy under the Shah. The Iranian people are a great people. The problem is that the far left religious radicals have taken control. Remove them and the problem is solved.

 

[Redfish]

So, since for about all of the last 10 years it has been democrat rule we can blame Obama for the mess in the first place? This deal is made to fix his failed foreign policy?

So let's go ahead a pass it and feel real good about ourselves. I am sure we can feel just as good as Chamberlain felt when he shook Hitler's hand.

Actually, the mess has been going on for sixty years when Eisenhower got involved

Your solution is allow them to continue on the current path which gets them a bomb within a year. Obama delays development for at least ten years and maybe never

Seems to me that the fear being spread last year in preparation for this "deal" was that Iran was going to have a bomb any day. They are still real far from having a bomb your predictions hold no water.

Actually, they have about three quarters of the enriched uranium they need

Your way allows them to keep it....how can that be better?

the obozo deal also allows them to keep it. are you living under a rock?

No, actually it does not allow them to keep it

They must give up their stockpiles of enriched uranium and it must be verified BEFORE sanctions are lifted

and you are so naive that you think that is actually going to happen?
Effectively the sanctions have already been lifted. The radical mullahs won, the US and the sane world lost------------thanks obozo.

 

[occupied]

The so-called deal won't stop terrorists. The sanctions were destroying Iran's economy, they were working. With the sanctions in place they could not afford a nuclear program. Now, they have money and freedom to build whatever they want and sell them to whoever they want.

The naivte of obozo and you libs about the iranians is amazing. Their leaders scream "death to america and israel" and you silly fucks just laugh and say they don't really mean it.

liberalism is truly a mental disease.

WTF?

Great, the so-called deal doesn't stop any of that. Iran will have nuclear weapons with or without the deal. BUT, under the deal they also get billions of dollars from us and get the sanctions lifted.

the deal accomplished nothing except getting them nuclear capabilities sooner.

Just having sufficient enriched uranium for a bomb is not a bomb. It's nowhere close to having the capability to deliver a device to a target. I wish more conservatives knew about the the process from ore to full nuclear capability, maybe they would not be so easily scared.

 

[occupied]

Once again...Obama wins and Republicans lose

Getting to be a habit

Once again Obama has to buy of his own party. Obama may win but we know that the country loses. His winning doesn't mean it is a good deal. Have you told your children lately how much debt Obama has heaped upon them?

Please explain your alternate reality if Republicans scuttle this treaty

What happens next?

Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.

Iran was a modern, growing economy under the Shah. The Iranian people are a great people. The problem is that the far left religious radicals have taken control. Remove them and the problem is solved.

Far left religious radicals? You are much too clueless to argue this topic.

 

[Redfish]

The so-called deal won't stop terrorists. The sanctions were destroying Iran's economy, they were working. With the sanctions in place they could not afford a nuclear program. Now, they have money and freedom to build whatever they want and sell them to whoever they want.

The naivte of obozo and you libs about the iranians is amazing. Their leaders scream "death to america and israel" and you silly fucks just laugh and say they don't really mean it.

liberalism is truly a mental disease.

WTF?

Great, the so-called deal doesn't stop any of that. Iran will have nuclear weapons with or without the deal. BUT, under the deal they also get billions of dollars from us and get the sanctions lifted.

the deal accomplished nothing except getting them nuclear capabilities sooner.

Just having sufficient enriched uranium for a bomb is not a bomb. It's nowhere close to having the capability to deliver a device to a target. I wish more conservatives knew about the the process from ore to full nuclear capability, maybe they would not be so easily scared.

I understand the process quite well, probably better than you do. They could already build a dirty bomb and they have missiles capable of hitting most of europe and certainly israel.

the only thing holding them back is the threat of retaliation, but with a pussy like obama in the whitehouse that isn't much of a threat.

Its also not just what Iran might do. They could sell a dirty bomb to ISIS or some other radical group. Do you think ISIS would hesitate to nuke millions of Christians or Jews?

 

[Redfish]

Once again...Obama wins and Republicans lose

Getting to be a habit

Once again Obama has to buy of his own party. Obama may win but we know that the country loses. His winning doesn't mean it is a good deal. Have you told your children lately how much debt Obama has heaped upon them?

Please explain your alternate reality if Republicans scuttle this treaty

What happens next?

Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.

Iran was a modern, growing economy under the Shah. The Iranian people are a great people. The problem is that the far left religious radicals have taken control. Remove them and the problem is solved.

Far left religious radicals? You are much too clueless to argue this topic.

Sorry, should have said far right religious radicals. Happy now?

 

[occupied]

The so-called deal won't stop terrorists. The sanctions were destroying Iran's economy, they were working. With the sanctions in place they could not afford a nuclear program. Now, they have money and freedom to build whatever they want and sell them to whoever they want.

The naivte of obozo and you libs about the iranians is amazing. Their leaders scream "death to america and israel" and you silly fucks just laugh and say they don't really mean it.

liberalism is truly a mental disease.

WTF?

Great, the so-called deal doesn't stop any of that. Iran will have nuclear weapons with or without the deal. BUT, under the deal they also get billions of dollars from us and get the sanctions lifted.

the deal accomplished nothing except getting them nuclear capabilities sooner.

Just having sufficient enriched uranium for a bomb is not a bomb. It's nowhere close to having the capability to deliver a device to a target. I wish more conservatives knew about the the process from ore to full nuclear capability, maybe they would not be so easily scared.

I understand the process quite well, probably better than you do. They could already build a dirty bomb and they have missiles capable of hitting most of europe and certainly israel.

the only thing holding them back is the threat of retaliation, but with a pussy like obama in the whitehouse that isn't much of a threat.

Its also not just what Iran might do. They could sell a dirty bomb to ISIS or some other radical group. Do you think ISIS would hesitate to nuke millions of Christians or Jews?

Iran had the capability to launch a dirty bomb 8-10 years ago when Bush was also trying to make them out to be an imminent nuclear threat. They came closer to getting bombed than at any point since. Your characterization is as false as his assertions.

 

[Redfish]

The so-called deal won't stop terrorists. The sanctions were destroying Iran's economy, they were working. With the sanctions in place they could not afford a nuclear program. Now, they have money and freedom to build whatever they want and sell them to whoever they want.

The naivte of obozo and you libs about the iranians is amazing. Their leaders scream "death to america and israel" and you silly fucks just laugh and say they don't really mean it.

liberalism is truly a mental disease.

WTF?

Great, the so-called deal doesn't stop any of that. Iran will have nuclear weapons with or without the deal. BUT, under the deal they also get billions of dollars from us and get the sanctions lifted.

the deal accomplished nothing except getting them nuclear capabilities sooner.

Just having sufficient enriched uranium for a bomb is not a bomb. It's nowhere close to having the capability to deliver a device to a target. I wish more conservatives knew about the the process from ore to full nuclear capability, maybe they would not be so easily scared.

I understand the process quite well, probably better than you do. They could already build a dirty bomb and they have missiles capable of hitting most of europe and certainly israel.

the only thing holding them back is the threat of retaliation, but with a pussy like obama in the whitehouse that isn't much of a threat.

Its also not just what Iran might do. They could sell a dirty bomb to ISIS or some other radical group. Do you think ISIS would hesitate to nuke millions of Christians or Jews?

Iran had the capability to launch a dirty bomb 8-10 years ago when Bush was also trying to make them out to be an imminent nuclear threat. They came closer to getting bombed than at any point since. Your characterization is as false as his assertions.

funny, it 3 sentences you contradict yourself and make my point. How's the crack pipe this morning?

 

[occupied]

Once again...Obama wins and Republicans lose

Getting to be a habit

Once again Obama has to buy of his own party. Obama may win but we know that the country loses. His winning doesn't mean it is a good deal. Have you told your children lately how much debt Obama has heaped upon them?

Please explain your alternate reality if Republicans scuttle this treaty

What happens next?

Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.

Iran was a modern, growing economy under the Shah. The Iranian people are a great people. The problem is that the far left religious radicals have taken control. Remove them and the problem is solved.

Far left religious radicals? You are much too clueless to argue this topic.

Sorry, should have said far right religious radicals. Happy now?

That is more correct, it is no accident that the only organized opposition to this deal is from conservatives in three nations. All of them Iran, Israel, and US are united in their goal to keeping a means to scare their own citizens into submission.

 

[occupied]

WTF?

Great, the so-called deal doesn't stop any of that. Iran will have nuclear weapons with or without the deal. BUT, under the deal they also get billions of dollars from us and get the sanctions lifted.

the deal accomplished nothing except getting them nuclear capabilities sooner.

Just having sufficient enriched uranium for a bomb is not a bomb. It's nowhere close to having the capability to deliver a device to a target. I wish more conservatives knew about the the process from ore to full nuclear capability, maybe they would not be so easily scared.

I understand the process quite well, probably better than you do. They could already build a dirty bomb and they have missiles capable of hitting most of europe and certainly israel.

the only thing holding them back is the threat of retaliation, but with a pussy like obama in the whitehouse that isn't much of a threat.

Its also not just what Iran might do. They could sell a dirty bomb to ISIS or some other radical group. Do you think ISIS would hesitate to nuke millions of Christians or Jews?

Iran had the capability to launch a dirty bomb 8-10 years ago when Bush was also trying to make them out to be an imminent nuclear threat. They came closer to getting bombed than at any point since. Your characterization is as false as his assertions.

funny, it 3 sentences you contradict yourself and make my point. How's the crack pipe this morning?

Yeah the point I was making is that Iran is not actually working hard to strike Israel and get bombed into oblivion as you seem to think they are. Not surprised you missed it.

 

[Redfish]

Once again Obama has to buy of his own party. Obama may win but we know that the country loses. His winning doesn't mean it is a good deal. Have you told your children lately how much debt Obama has heaped upon them?

Please explain your alternate reality if Republicans scuttle this treaty

What happens next?

Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.

Iran was a modern, growing economy under the Shah. The Iranian people are a great people. The problem is that the far left religious radicals have taken control. Remove them and the problem is solved.

Far left religious radicals? You are much too clueless to argue this topic.

Sorry, should have said far right religious radicals. Happy now?

That is more correct, it is no accident that the only organized opposition to this deal is from conservatives in three nations. All of them Iran, Israel, and US are united in their goal to keeping a means to scare their own citizens into submission.

your ignorance is on full display. wars are started when nations have weak leaders. Peace through strength works. peace through appeasement is bullshit.

 

[Redfish]

Great, the so-called deal doesn't stop any of that. Iran will have nuclear weapons with or without the deal. BUT, under the deal they also get billions of dollars from us and get the sanctions lifted.

the deal accomplished nothing except getting them nuclear capabilities sooner.

Just having sufficient enriched uranium for a bomb is not a bomb. It's nowhere close to having the capability to deliver a device to a target. I wish more conservatives knew about the the process from ore to full nuclear capability, maybe they would not be so easily scared.

I understand the process quite well, probably better than you do. They could already build a dirty bomb and they have missiles capable of hitting most of europe and certainly israel.

the only thing holding them back is the threat of retaliation, but with a pussy like obama in the whitehouse that isn't much of a threat.

Its also not just what Iran might do. They could sell a dirty bomb to ISIS or some other radical group. Do you think ISIS would hesitate to nuke millions of Christians or Jews?

Iran had the capability to launch a dirty bomb 8-10 years ago when Bush was also trying to make them out to be an imminent nuclear threat. They came closer to getting bombed than at any point since. Your characterization is as false as his assertions.

funny, it 3 sentences you contradict yourself and make my point. How's the crack pipe this morning?

Yeah the point I was making is that Iran is not actually working hard to strike Israel and get bombed into oblivion as you seem to think they are. Not surprised you missed it.

Do you think ISIS would be murdering thousands if they knew that they would be vaporized the next day? These radicals exist because the world tolerates them, they exist because of PC idiots who feel sorry for them, they exist because of liberal idiots like you and obama.

 

[occupied]

Please explain your alternate reality if Republicans scuttle this treaty

What happens next?

Put the sanctions back in place. Isolate them from the rest of the world. Then let them know that we are watching and that any new nuclear facilities or expansions to existing ones will be destroyed. Then work covertly with the iranian opposition to take down the ayatollahs and let sane people rule that country.

Iran was a modern, growing economy under the Shah. The Iranian people are a great people. The problem is that the far left religious radicals have taken control. Remove them and the problem is solved.

Far left religious radicals? You are much too clueless to argue this topic.

Sorry, should have said far right religious radicals. Happy now?

That is more correct, it is no accident that the only organized opposition to this deal is from conservatives in three nations. All of them Iran, Israel, and US are united in their goal to keeping a means to scare their own citizens into submission.

your ignorance is on full display. wars are started when nations have weak leaders. Peace through strength works. peace through appeasement is bullshit.

Peace through diplomacy works more often than not, you just remember the times it didn't.

 

[occupied]

Just having sufficient enriched uranium for a bomb is not a bomb. It's nowhere close to having the capability to deliver a device to a target. I wish more conservatives knew about the the process from ore to full nuclear capability, maybe they would not be so easily scared.

I understand the process quite well, probably better than you do. They could already build a dirty bomb and they have missiles capable of hitting most of europe and certainly israel.

the only thing holding them back is the threat of retaliation, but with a pussy like obama in the whitehouse that isn't much of a threat.

Its also not just what Iran might do. They could sell a dirty bomb to ISIS or some other radical group. Do you think ISIS would hesitate to nuke millions of Christians or Jews?

Iran had the capability to launch a dirty bomb 8-10 years ago when Bush was also trying to make them out to be an imminent nuclear threat. They came closer to getting bombed than at any point since. Your characterization is as false as his assertions.

funny, it 3 sentences you contradict yourself and make my point. How's the crack pipe this morning?

Yeah the point I was making is that Iran is not actually working hard to strike Israel and get bombed into oblivion as you seem to think they are. Not surprised you missed it.

Do you think ISIS would be murdering thousands if they knew that they would be vaporized the next day? These radicals exist because the world tolerates them, they exist because of PC idiots who feel sorry for them, they exist because of liberal idiots like you and obama.

You might be interested to learn that Iran is also fighting ISIS.