Obama on cusp of winning Iran nuclear vote

The more important question is what happens if Iran violates the agreement? I think there is a better than average chance that happens yet no one seems to have a response if they do.
Let's see....

Iran violates the agreement and we go back to economic sanctions
Really you actually think your just going to snap the sanctions that took years to orginally get in place back? You know when governments and bussinesses start making millions of dollars in Iran I don't think they will be in any great hurry to put sanctions back in place. One of the reasons the President gave for having to have this deal was that the sanctions in place would not stop Iran from getting nukes so if Iran violates the agreement the punishement will be trying to put sanctions that you said wouldn't stop them back in place. Yeah that makes sense.
Sanctions can indeed snap back into place when it is already a negotiated deal. A greater understanding of the political climate in Iran is required to understand why this deal will be successful. Conservatives like to think that the Ayatollahs have total control and can simply do things without regard for their people but the reality is more complicated. Unrest is simmering right under the surface there and if their economy does not pick up or they blow the deal by trying to hide things the place is going to erupt and they will not survive another bout of popular revolt. At this point a nuclear weapon is not as high on their list of priorities as simply holding power and keeping their heads attached to their bodies.
They are getting sanctions relief their econmy will pick up the Ayatollahs have controlled the Country since 79 they put down the last uprising with ease while under sanctions and having a weak economy you can negotiate anything into a deal I suspect if their is enough money flowing from Iran every country that signed that deal will find away around it or ignore it outright.

I doubt Iran will build a bomb they really don't need. I don't see them having an enemy that they really need to have the insurance. What they SAID they would do is continue to fund terrorism, I assume on a larger scale. They will have a military build up because that is what hey said they would do. A better SAM defense and there will be no reason to listen to anyone. Of course they also need ballistic missiles which they too will be built in spite of UN mandates.

But this is the best deal Iran would give us so we should be grateful and take it.


your last sentence says it all. "the best deal Iran would GIVE us". They won, the US under obozo and kerry lost.
 
Some of them are scared shitless of the media. some of them are rinos. But fear not, those kinds of republicans will be kicked out next year along with the crazy dem liberals.

the american people are seeing through the liars in both parties. Thats why Trump. Carson, and Fiorina are so high in the polls and why the hildebeast is so low in the polls.

Can you say: 45th President of the United States...Hillary Rodham Clinton?

Get used to it it...or get over it. But it IS your future....


Can she rule from a jail cell? Because thats where she is going. HRC will NEVER be president. THAT is YOUR future.

More fluff from Conservatives imagining that a security violation that didn't result in release of compromised information will somehow result in jail time

Brought to you by the same assholes who impeached over a blowjob
 
Some of them are scared shitless of the media. some of them are rinos. But fear not, those kinds of republicans will be kicked out next year along with the crazy dem liberals.

the american people are seeing through the liars in both parties. Thats why Trump. Carson, and Fiorina are so high in the polls and why the hildebeast is so low in the polls.

Can you say: 45th President of the United States...Hillary Rodham Clinton?

Get used to it it...or get over it. But it IS your future....


Can she rule from a jail cell? Because thats where she is going. HRC will NEVER be president. THAT is YOUR future.

More fluff from Conservatives imagining that a security violation that didn't result in release of compromised information will somehow result in jail time

Brought to you by the same assholes who impeached over a blowjob


BS, it has already been proven that she transmitted classified data on a non secure network. She violated US security procedures. If you or I had done that we would already be in jail.

top secret data does not have to be marked in order to be top secret. Verbal or written tranmission of top secret data is a crime.

Now, on bubba and impeachment. He did not get impeached for a blow job, he got impeached for lying under oath. the subject of the lie does not matter. lying under oath is perjury and an impeachable crime.
 
Now one must wonder what the democrats were offered to change their vote. This is pure American political BS. Nothing in the "agreement" has changed so why are the those opposing the deal changing their vote? Only one real reason, pay off. The corn husker kick back is alive and well.

This "agreement" will be hailed as a great accomplishment meanwhile it will be like a boil on your ass. Put a little ointment on it and it feels a little better yet it is just getting worse waiting to burst. Nothing good can come out of appeasing a sworn enemy who has already told us what they will do with the money, military build up and they will continue to fund terrorism. WTF is Obama trying to get the US military complex into business with Iran? But as usual when the boil pops Obama will be long gone and it will be blame on others.

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Democratic aides in Congress say party leaders are working hard to convince undecided members to support the deal and are still wary that new revelations could alter the political debate in Washington, but they are growing increasingly confident that the agreement will survive.
The more important question is what happens if Iran violates the agreement? I think there is a better than average chance that happens yet no one seems to have a response if they do.
Let's see....

Iran violates the agreement and we go back to economic sanctions
Really you actually think your just going to snap the sanctions that took years to orginally get in place back? You know when governments and bussinesses start making millions of dollars in Iran I don't think they will be in any great hurry to put sanctions back in place. One of the reasons the President gave for having to have this deal was that the sanctions in place would not stop Iran from getting nukes so if Iran violates the agreement the punishement will be trying to put sanctions that you said wouldn't stop them back in place. Yeah that makes sense.

What is your argument then Mr ambassador?
The deal is bad, can't have that. The sanctions are ending because the parties involved no longer want them so we can't put them back. So what is left Mr ambassador?


Its simple. The american president, the UK prime minister, the french president, and the leaders of every other civilized country, put out a joint resolution telling Iran that if any future terrorist attack in any of those countries can be traced back to Iran, then Tehran will be bombed into oblivion.

The only thing that radical islamic terrorists understand is overwhelming force. It is naive to think they can be negotiated with and that they will keep any promises.

So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.
 
To repeat. it looks like obama will get his Iran deal. When Iran explodes a nuke or sells one to a terrorist organization, we will know that obama and the dems who voted for this foolish deal are at fault.

Just like obozocare, you dems own this one.
 
Some of them are scared shitless of the media. some of them are rinos. But fear not, those kinds of republicans will be kicked out next year along with the crazy dem liberals.

the american people are seeing through the liars in both parties. Thats why Trump. Carson, and Fiorina are so high in the polls and why the hildebeast is so low in the polls.

Can you say: 45th President of the United States...Hillary Rodham Clinton?

Get used to it it...or get over it. But it IS your future....


Can she rule from a jail cell? Because thats where she is going. HRC will NEVER be president. THAT is YOUR future.

More fluff from Conservatives imagining that a security violation that didn't result in release of compromised information will somehow result in jail time

Brought to you by the same assholes who impeached over a blowjob

It's all they have. Democratic presidents are shown through history to be superior so they are left with trying to sully them in an attempt to compete. Look how they behaved toward the last two dems. It's sad really.
 
The more important question is what happens if Iran violates the agreement? I think there is a better than average chance that happens yet no one seems to have a response if they do.
Let's see....

Iran violates the agreement and we go back to economic sanctions
Really you actually think your just going to snap the sanctions that took years to orginally get in place back? You know when governments and bussinesses start making millions of dollars in Iran I don't think they will be in any great hurry to put sanctions back in place. One of the reasons the President gave for having to have this deal was that the sanctions in place would not stop Iran from getting nukes so if Iran violates the agreement the punishement will be trying to put sanctions that you said wouldn't stop them back in place. Yeah that makes sense.

What is your argument then Mr ambassador?
The deal is bad, can't have that. The sanctions are ending because the parties involved no longer want them so we can't put them back. So what is left Mr ambassador?


Its simple. The american president, the UK prime minister, the french president, and the leaders of every other civilized country, put out a joint resolution telling Iran that if any future terrorist attack in any of those countries can be traced back to Iran, then Tehran will be bombed into oblivion.

The only thing that radical islamic terrorists understand is overwhelming force. It is naive to think they can be negotiated with and that they will keep any promises.

So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.
 
To repeat. it looks like obama will get his Iran deal. When Iran explodes a nuke or sells one to a terrorist organization, we will know that obama and the dems who voted for this foolish deal are at fault.

Just like obozocare, you dems own this one.


a good share of republicans are at fault in this one as well
 
Some of them are scared shitless of the media. some of them are rinos. But fear not, those kinds of republicans will be kicked out next year along with the crazy dem liberals.

the american people are seeing through the liars in both parties. Thats why Trump. Carson, and Fiorina are so high in the polls and why the hildebeast is so low in the polls.

Can you say: 45th President of the United States...Hillary Rodham Clinton?

Get used to it it...or get over it. But it IS your future....


Can she rule from a jail cell? Because thats where she is going. HRC will NEVER be president. THAT is YOUR future.

More fluff from Conservatives imagining that a security violation that didn't result in release of compromised information will somehow result in jail time

Brought to you by the same assholes who impeached over a blowjob

It's all they have. Democratic presidents are shown through history to be superior so they are left with trying to sully them in an attempt to compete. Look how they behaved toward the last two dems.


your indoctrination seems to be complete. do you have any remaining live brain cells.

If you want to talk about attacking presidents, lets talk about what you libs said about Bush and Reagan.

your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
 
To repeat. it looks like obama will get his Iran deal. When Iran explodes a nuke or sells one to a terrorist organization, we will know that obama and the dems who voted for this foolish deal are at fault.

Just like obozocare, you dems own this one.


a good share of republicans are at fault in this one as well


some, and they should be held accountable as well as the dems. I do not consider rinos like Boehner and McConnel to be republicans.
 
To repeat. it looks like obama will get his Iran deal. When Iran explodes a nuke or sells one to a terrorist organization, we will know that obama and the dems who voted for this foolish deal are at fault.

Just like obozocare, you dems own this one.


a good share of republicans are at fault in this one as well


some, and they should be held accountable as well as the dems. I do not consider rinos like Boehner and McConnel to be republicans.


there are many more then just those two fuctards that need to be thrown out
 
Let's see....

Iran violates the agreement and we go back to economic sanctions
Really you actually think your just going to snap the sanctions that took years to orginally get in place back? You know when governments and bussinesses start making millions of dollars in Iran I don't think they will be in any great hurry to put sanctions back in place. One of the reasons the President gave for having to have this deal was that the sanctions in place would not stop Iran from getting nukes so if Iran violates the agreement the punishement will be trying to put sanctions that you said wouldn't stop them back in place. Yeah that makes sense.

What is your argument then Mr ambassador?
The deal is bad, can't have that. The sanctions are ending because the parties involved no longer want them so we can't put them back. So what is left Mr ambassador?


Its simple. The american president, the UK prime minister, the french president, and the leaders of every other civilized country, put out a joint resolution telling Iran that if any future terrorist attack in any of those countries can be traced back to Iran, then Tehran will be bombed into oblivion.

The only thing that radical islamic terrorists understand is overwhelming force. It is naive to think they can be negotiated with and that they will keep any promises.

So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.

Conservatives are the pussies. They shit down their leg at any mention of a mushroom cloud. You all feel the need to immediately destroy out of fear rather than try and correct the situation. Whatever nuclear material Iran has acquired, they acquired under sanctions. Obviously that wasn't effective. Iran is fully aware that Israel and to some degree the Saudis wouldn't hesitate if we got the green light. I believe they will toe the line on nukes.
 
Really you actually think your just going to snap the sanctions that took years to orginally get in place back? You know when governments and bussinesses start making millions of dollars in Iran I don't think they will be in any great hurry to put sanctions back in place. One of the reasons the President gave for having to have this deal was that the sanctions in place would not stop Iran from getting nukes so if Iran violates the agreement the punishement will be trying to put sanctions that you said wouldn't stop them back in place. Yeah that makes sense.

What is your argument then Mr ambassador?
The deal is bad, can't have that. The sanctions are ending because the parties involved no longer want them so we can't put them back. So what is left Mr ambassador?


Its simple. The american president, the UK prime minister, the french president, and the leaders of every other civilized country, put out a joint resolution telling Iran that if any future terrorist attack in any of those countries can be traced back to Iran, then Tehran will be bombed into oblivion.

The only thing that radical islamic terrorists understand is overwhelming force. It is naive to think they can be negotiated with and that they will keep any promises.

So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.

Conservatives are the pussies. They shit down their leg at any mention of a mushroom cloud. You all feel the need to immediately destroy out of fear rather than try and correct the situation. Whatever nuclear material Iran has acquired, they acquired under sanctions. Obviously that wasn't effective. Iran is fully aware that Israel and to some degree the Saudis wouldn't hesitate if we got the green light. I believe they will toe the line on nukes.

I agree

Iran has much more to gain by complying with the terms of the treaty. They can still saber wrattle, scream death to America and spout fundamentalist dogma. But they get some degree of normalcy in their economy

Ressurecting their nuclear program will only bring them more of the same that they have right now
 
Really you actually think your just going to snap the sanctions that took years to orginally get in place back? You know when governments and bussinesses start making millions of dollars in Iran I don't think they will be in any great hurry to put sanctions back in place. One of the reasons the President gave for having to have this deal was that the sanctions in place would not stop Iran from getting nukes so if Iran violates the agreement the punishement will be trying to put sanctions that you said wouldn't stop them back in place. Yeah that makes sense.

What is your argument then Mr ambassador?
The deal is bad, can't have that. The sanctions are ending because the parties involved no longer want them so we can't put them back. So what is left Mr ambassador?


Its simple. The american president, the UK prime minister, the french president, and the leaders of every other civilized country, put out a joint resolution telling Iran that if any future terrorist attack in any of those countries can be traced back to Iran, then Tehran will be bombed into oblivion.

The only thing that radical islamic terrorists understand is overwhelming force. It is naive to think they can be negotiated with and that they will keep any promises.

So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.

Conservatives are the pussies. They shit down their leg at any mention of a mushroom cloud. You all feel the need to immediately destroy out of fear rather than try and correct the situation. Whatever nuclear material Iran has acquired, they acquired under sanctions. Obviously that wasn't effective. Iran is fully aware that Israel and to some degree the Saudis wouldn't hesitate if we got the green light. I believe they will toe the line on nukes.


then you live in fantasy land. Iran will get nuclear bombs. There is a high probability that they will sell or give them to some radical faction. What will obozo do when Tel Aviv or Amman is bombed? Draw another red line?

the people of the mid east have been fighting a religious war for over 3000 years, are you so naive that you think a few words on a piece of paper will bring that to an end?
 
What is your argument then Mr ambassador?
The deal is bad, can't have that. The sanctions are ending because the parties involved no longer want them so we can't put them back. So what is left Mr ambassador?


Its simple. The american president, the UK prime minister, the french president, and the leaders of every other civilized country, put out a joint resolution telling Iran that if any future terrorist attack in any of those countries can be traced back to Iran, then Tehran will be bombed into oblivion.

The only thing that radical islamic terrorists understand is overwhelming force. It is naive to think they can be negotiated with and that they will keep any promises.

So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.

Conservatives are the pussies. They shit down their leg at any mention of a mushroom cloud. You all feel the need to immediately destroy out of fear rather than try and correct the situation. Whatever nuclear material Iran has acquired, they acquired under sanctions. Obviously that wasn't effective. Iran is fully aware that Israel and to some degree the Saudis wouldn't hesitate if we got the green light. I believe they will toe the line on nukes.

I agree

Iran has much more to gain by complying with the terms of the treaty. They can still saber wrattle, scream death to America and spout fundamentalist dogma. But they get some degree of normalcy in their economy

Ressurecting their nuclear program will only bring them more of the same that they have right now


amazingly naive. People like you are a real danger to humanity. We had them on their knees, then obozo decided to let them up, give them billions of dollars, and allow them to continue their quest to become a nuclear power. Because in obamaland its just not FAIR that the US has more weapons than the poor Iranians.
 
What is your argument then Mr ambassador?
The deal is bad, can't have that. The sanctions are ending because the parties involved no longer want them so we can't put them back. So what is left Mr ambassador?


Its simple. The american president, the UK prime minister, the french president, and the leaders of every other civilized country, put out a joint resolution telling Iran that if any future terrorist attack in any of those countries can be traced back to Iran, then Tehran will be bombed into oblivion.

The only thing that radical islamic terrorists understand is overwhelming force. It is naive to think they can be negotiated with and that they will keep any promises.

So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.

Conservatives are the pussies. They shit down their leg at any mention of a mushroom cloud. You all feel the need to immediately destroy out of fear rather than try and correct the situation. Whatever nuclear material Iran has acquired, they acquired under sanctions. Obviously that wasn't effective. Iran is fully aware that Israel and to some degree the Saudis wouldn't hesitate if we got the green light. I believe they will toe the line on nukes.


then you live in fantasy land. Iran will get nuclear bombs. There is a high probability that they will sell or give them to some radical faction. What will obozo do when Tel Aviv or Amman is bombed? Draw another red line?

the people of the mid east have been fighting a religious war for over 3000 years, are you so naive that you think a few words on a piece of paper will bring that to an end?

I would argue that Iran ( Persia), is and has always been the most enlightened society among it's ME neighbors. They know the score. They see your boys on CNN screaming for their heads.
 
What is your argument then Mr ambassador?
The deal is bad, can't have that. The sanctions are ending because the parties involved no longer want them so we can't put them back. So what is left Mr ambassador?


Its simple. The american president, the UK prime minister, the french president, and the leaders of every other civilized country, put out a joint resolution telling Iran that if any future terrorist attack in any of those countries can be traced back to Iran, then Tehran will be bombed into oblivion.

The only thing that radical islamic terrorists understand is overwhelming force. It is naive to think they can be negotiated with and that they will keep any promises.

So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.

Conservatives are the pussies. They shit down their leg at any mention of a mushroom cloud. You all feel the need to immediately destroy out of fear rather than try and correct the situation. Whatever nuclear material Iran has acquired, they acquired under sanctions. Obviously that wasn't effective. Iran is fully aware that Israel and to some degree the Saudis wouldn't hesitate if we got the green light. I believe they will toe the line on nukes.


then you live in fantasy land. Iran will get nuclear bombs. There is a high probability that they will sell or give them to some radical faction. What will obozo do when Tel Aviv or Amman is bombed? Draw another red line?

the people of the mid east have been fighting a religious war for over 3000 years, are you so naive that you think a few words on a piece of paper will bring that to an end?

What will obozo do when Tel Aviv or Amman is bombed? Draw another red line?

naw he will be long gone

someone else will have to pick up his mess
 
Its simple. The american president, the UK prime minister, the french president, and the leaders of every other civilized country, put out a joint resolution telling Iran that if any future terrorist attack in any of those countries can be traced back to Iran, then Tehran will be bombed into oblivion.

The only thing that radical islamic terrorists understand is overwhelming force. It is naive to think they can be negotiated with and that they will keep any promises.

So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.

Conservatives are the pussies. They shit down their leg at any mention of a mushroom cloud. You all feel the need to immediately destroy out of fear rather than try and correct the situation. Whatever nuclear material Iran has acquired, they acquired under sanctions. Obviously that wasn't effective. Iran is fully aware that Israel and to some degree the Saudis wouldn't hesitate if we got the green light. I believe they will toe the line on nukes.


then you live in fantasy land. Iran will get nuclear bombs. There is a high probability that they will sell or give them to some radical faction. What will obozo do when Tel Aviv or Amman is bombed? Draw another red line?

the people of the mid east have been fighting a religious war for over 3000 years, are you so naive that you think a few words on a piece of paper will bring that to an end?

I would argue that Iran ( Persia), is and has always been the most enlightened society among it's ME neighbors. They know the score. They see your boys on CNN screaming for their heads.


I agree, the Iranian people are very enlightened and modern thinking. The problem is their radical islamic leadership. I spent time in Iran under the Shah. It was a great country with great people. Then the radicals took over and now it is back to the 16th century.

We should be covertly helping the opposition in Iran to overthrow the mullahs. But instead we are making the radical faction stronger with this so-called deal.
 
So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.

Conservatives are the pussies. They shit down their leg at any mention of a mushroom cloud. You all feel the need to immediately destroy out of fear rather than try and correct the situation. Whatever nuclear material Iran has acquired, they acquired under sanctions. Obviously that wasn't effective. Iran is fully aware that Israel and to some degree the Saudis wouldn't hesitate if we got the green light. I believe they will toe the line on nukes.


then you live in fantasy land. Iran will get nuclear bombs. There is a high probability that they will sell or give them to some radical faction. What will obozo do when Tel Aviv or Amman is bombed? Draw another red line?

the people of the mid east have been fighting a religious war for over 3000 years, are you so naive that you think a few words on a piece of paper will bring that to an end?

I would argue that Iran ( Persia), is and has always been the most enlightened society among it's ME neighbors. They know the score. They see your boys on CNN screaming for their heads.


I agree, the Iranian people are very enlightened and modern thinking. The problem is their radical islamic leadership. I spent time in Iran under the Shah. It was a great country with great people. Then the radicals took over and now it is back to the 16th century.

We should be covertly helping the opposition in Iran to overthrow the mullahs. But instead we are making the radical faction stronger with this so-called deal.

Maybe the deal helps get operatives in to do just that.
 
So if it's that simple then we do that if the deal doesn't work as intended. You all act as if we have no options if we take the deal. Iran knows we could act militarily. We don't need to bang that drum. It's much smarter for all parties to avoid that if possible.


Obama has already shown that he is too much of a pussy to take military action. remember his red line in Syria? The world knows that he won't do anything.

Now, a president Trump, Carson, Cruz, Walker, etc would send a totally different message to those who would kill innocent americans.

If we can make it to January 2017 a lot of the damage done by obama can be corrected.

Conservatives are the pussies. They shit down their leg at any mention of a mushroom cloud. You all feel the need to immediately destroy out of fear rather than try and correct the situation. Whatever nuclear material Iran has acquired, they acquired under sanctions. Obviously that wasn't effective. Iran is fully aware that Israel and to some degree the Saudis wouldn't hesitate if we got the green light. I believe they will toe the line on nukes.


then you live in fantasy land. Iran will get nuclear bombs. There is a high probability that they will sell or give them to some radical faction. What will obozo do when Tel Aviv or Amman is bombed? Draw another red line?

the people of the mid east have been fighting a religious war for over 3000 years, are you so naive that you think a few words on a piece of paper will bring that to an end?

I would argue that Iran ( Persia), is and has always been the most enlightened society among it's ME neighbors. They know the score. They see your boys on CNN screaming for their heads.


I agree, the Iranian people are very enlightened and modern thinking. The problem is their radical islamic leadership. I spent time in Iran under the Shah. It was a great country with great people. Then the radicals took over and now it is back to the 16th century.

We should be covertly helping the opposition in Iran to overthrow the mullahs. But instead we are making the radical faction stronger with this so-called deal.

That's why I'm in favor of the deal. Sanctions and or military action only hurts the good people.
 

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