Obama: Obvious.....or Obvious?

The problem is that it didn't matter in the last election and it's not going to matter now. The only thing those who voted for him back then and those who will vote for him this time around will be how much free stuff will they get.

The United States is in a downward spiral and the only thing that will save the country is to go back to the ideas that formed this country. Who thinks that's going to happen?

I just wonder how long it's going to take before this country hits the bottom.

This is bottom

If Obama wins he will "bypass Congress" and executive order us into third world socialist shithole status

If Obama loses his handlers will order their legions of mindless zombies (du and ows) to riot

Congressional Democrats will strike and close down the government
 
GEORGE ORWELL ONCE SAID: “Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious.”

At times....'obvious' may not be obvious....

1. Barack Obama spent his formative years in Indonesia. “In October 1967, Obama and his mother moved to Jakarta to rejoin his stepfather. Obama, his mother and his stepfather initially lived in a rented house at 16 Kyai Haji Ramli Tengah Street in a newly built neighborhood in the Menteng Dalam administrative village of the Tebet subdistrict in South Jakarta for two and a half years, with his stepfather working on a topographic survey for the Indonesian government.[19][20] From January 1968 to December 1969, Obama's mother taught English and was an assistant director of the U.S. government-subsidized Indonesia-America Friendship Institute,[21] while Obama attended the Indonesian-language Santo Fransiskus Asisi (St. Francis of Assisi) Catholic School around the corner from their house for 1st, 2nd, and part of 3rd grade.[19]” Early life and career of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. “It was obvious. Mr. Obama’s father and stepfather were Muslim; Mr. Obama attended a madrassa in Indonesia; as a boy, he studied the Koran; he has openly admitted that the “most beautiful sound” is the Muslim call for evening prayer (not, say, the “Star-Spangled Banner”); he frequently refers to Islam as a “revealed religion” while denigrating Christianity; and he claims that America is a “post-Christian” nation.” KUHNER: Jeremiah Wright can sink Obama - Washington Times



3. Obama spent 21 years learning at the feet of Jeremiah Wright. “Klein asked Wright if he converted Obama from being a Muslim into a Christian. “He said, I don’t know about that. but I can tell you that I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam,” Klein says.” Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report) | The Gateway Pundit

a. “But [Jeremiah] Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity’s guiding principles–what the church calls the “Black Value System”–included a “Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.’” Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright: Former Muslim


4. Senator Obama slips up and says “my Muslim faith” in an interview with George Stephanopoulus:
‘OBAMA: And what was the first thing the McCain?s campaign went out and did? They said, look, these liberal blogs that support Obama are out there attacking Governor Palin.
Let’s not play games. What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you’re absolutely right that that has not come–
STEPHANOPOULOS: Christian faith.
OBAMA: — my Christian faith. Well, what I’m saying is that he hasn’t suggested–
STEPHANOPOULOS: Has connections, right.
OBAMA: — that I’m a Muslim. And I think that his campaign’s upper echelons have not, either.
Here comes the RAIN: “My Muslim Faith…” | The Moderate Voice





5. Obama supported movements aimed at throwing out pro-American tending governments in Egypt, and Libya….yet when pro-democracy movements in Iran took to the streets…”Yet instead of coming to their aid, Obama validated the America-hating regime's rigged election of the totalitarian theocrat Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as freedom-seeking revolutionaries were gunned down in the streets.”
The Elephant in the Room: Obama's failing Iran policy




6. Valerie B. Jarrett is a Senior Advisor to President Barack Obama. She is also the Chair of the White House Council on Women and Girls. Senior Advisor Valerie Jarrett | The White House

a. Chicago businesswoman Valerie Jarrett has earned all sorts of nicknames as an aide to President-elect Barack Obama — from "First Friend" to "big sister" to "the other half of Obama's brain." 2-min Bio: Valerie Jarrett - TIME


b. Valerie Jarrett was born in Shiraz,Iran.
Valerie Jarrett - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This sure looks like a 'JDLR' situation.....




...'Just Doesn't Look Right'

"Obama: Obvious.....or Obvious?"


OBLIVIOUS!
 
The problem is that it didn't matter in the last election and it's not going to matter now. The only thing those who voted for him back then and those who will vote for him this time around will be how much free stuff will they get.

The United States is in a downward spiral and the only thing that will save the country is to go back to the ideas that formed this country. Who thinks that's going to happen?

I just wonder how long it's going to take before this country hits the bottom.



"... go back to the ideas that formed this country. "

Tough getting the toothpaste back in the tube.....
 
Facts do matter even if some are willing to just dismiss them. We need to send Obama home in November or those facts you easily dismiss will come back to haunt you. I hope we never find out. ;)

Facts only matter if they have relevance to the conversation. The chemical formula of hydrogen peroxide is H2O2, the negitive square root of 16 is -4, the capital of California is Sacramento. Those are all facts, but they add no value to the current conversation.

Facts about the ideology of the man seeking reelection to the presidency definitely matter. Especially considering the volatility in the Moslem world and the danger it poses to this country and our ally Israel.

Attempting to create some sort of link between the president and radical Muslim ideology is not a "fact". It also has no relevence in todays converstaion. He is already the president, his childhood and religion is not going to lose him the election. In fact, discussing this nonsense on a national scale only helps Obama, as it reminds people of that crazy lady at the McCain rally that stood up and announced "he's a mooselm!" which forced McCain in to defending Obama. Clinging to the notion that Obama has secret ties to Muslims is the rethoric of the desperate right , just like constantly attempting to tie Romney to polygamy is the rethoric of the desperate left. Both don't deserve to be treated with anything more than disdain.
 
Facts only matter if they have relevance to the conversation. The chemical formula of hydrogen peroxide is H2O2, the negitive square root of 16 is -4, the capital of California is Sacramento. Those are all facts, but they add no value to the current conversation.

Facts about the ideology of the man seeking reelection to the presidency definitely matter. Especially considering the volatility in the Moslem world and the danger it poses to this country and our ally Israel.

Attempting to create some sort of link between the president and radical Muslim ideology is not a "fact". It also has no relevence in todays converstaion. He is already the president, his childhood and religion is not going to lose him the election. In fact, discussing this nonsense on a national scale only helps Obama, as it reminds people of that crazy lady at the McCain rally that stood up and announced "he's a mooselm!" which forced McCain in to defending Obama. Clinging to the notion that Obama has secret ties to Muslims is the rethoric of the desperate right , just like constantly attempting to tie Romney to polygamy is the rethoric of the desperate left. Both don't deserve to be treated with anything more than disdain.

1. "...to create some sort of link between the president and radical Muslim ideology..."


Since you have given no examples of any errors in the OP....
...you, it seems, are attempting to deny what seems apparent.


Pretty much the sign of a dogma: "....A principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true..."


You shouldn't be afraid of doing your own thinking.


2. As you seem woefully short of real-life experience, copy this down, laminate it, and keep it close at all times:

"Reality is defined by actions, not by words."
 
Wiki-

Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran to American parents James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman. Her father, a pathologist and geneticist, ran a hospital for children in Shiraz, 1950, as part of a program where American doctors and agricultural experts sought to help jump-start developing countries' health and farming efforts. When she was five, the family moved to London for one year, returning to Chicago in 1963.[3]

In 1966 her mother, Barbara T. Bowman, was one of four child advocates that created the Erikson Institute. The Institute was established to provide advanced knowledge in child development for teachers and other professionals working with young children.[4]

As a child she spoke Persian and French.[5]

Jarrett graduated from Northfield Mount Hermon in 1974. She earned a B.A. in Psychology from Stanford University in 1978, and a Juris Doctor (J.D.) from the University of Michigan Law School in 1981.[6]

In 1983 Jarrett married Dr. William Robert Jarrett, son of famed Chicago Sun-Times reporter Vernon Jarrett. She attributes her switch from a private to a public career to their daughter Laura's birth and her own desire to do something that would make the daughter proud.[7]

How ignorant and brainwashed can dupes get? Assume the position...
 
Wiki-

Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran to American parents James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman. Her father, a pathologist and geneticist, ran a hospital for children in Shiraz, 1950, as part of a program where American doctors and agricultural experts sought to help jump-start developing countries' health and farming efforts. When she was five, the family moved to London for one year, returning to Chicago in 1963.[3]

In 1966 her mother, Barbara T. Bowman, was one of four child advocates that created the Erikson Institute. The Institute was established to provide advanced knowledge in child development for teachers and other professionals working with young children.[4]

As a child she spoke Persian and French.[5]

Jarrett graduated from Northfield Mount Hermon in 1974. She earned a B.A. in Psychology from Stanford University in 1978, and a Juris Doctor (J.D.) from the University of Michigan Law School in 1981.[6]

In 1983 Jarrett married Dr. William Robert Jarrett, son of famed Chicago Sun-Times reporter Vernon Jarrett. She attributes her switch from a private to a public career to their daughter Laura's birth and her own desire to do something that would make the daughter proud.[7]

How ignorant and brainwashed can dupes get? Assume the position...


Ignorant of what, blanko?


Was my post totally correct?

Don't you know by know that I research what ever I post?

Yes....I had read that.



So...what is it you think your post added to the discussion?
 
GEORGE ORWELL ONCE SAID: “Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious.”

At times....'obvious' may not be obvious....

1. Barack Obama spent his formative years in Indonesia. “In October 1967, Obama and his mother moved to Jakarta to rejoin his stepfather. Obama, his mother and his stepfather initially lived in a rented house at 16 Kyai Haji Ramli Tengah Street in a newly built neighborhood in the Menteng Dalam administrative village of the Tebet subdistrict in South Jakarta for two and a half years, with his stepfather working on a topographic survey for the Indonesian government.[19][20] From January 1968 to December 1969, Obama's mother taught English and was an assistant director of the U.S. government-subsidized Indonesia-America Friendship Institute,[21] while Obama attended the Indonesian-language Santo Fransiskus Asisi (St. Francis of Assisi) Catholic School around the corner from their house for 1st, 2nd, and part of 3rd grade.[19]” Early life and career of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. “It was obvious. Mr. Obama’s father and stepfather were Muslim; Mr. Obama attended a madrassa in Indonesia; as a boy, he studied the Koran; he has openly admitted that the “most beautiful sound” is the Muslim call for evening prayer (not, say, the “Star-Spangled Banner”); he frequently refers to Islam as a “revealed religion” while denigrating Christianity; and he claims that America is a “post-Christian” nation.” KUHNER: Jeremiah Wright can sink Obama - Washington Times



3. Obama spent 21 years learning at the feet of Jeremiah Wright. “Klein asked Wright if he converted Obama from being a Muslim into a Christian. “He said, I don’t know about that. but I can tell you that I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam,” Klein says.” Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report) | The Gateway Pundit

a. “But [Jeremiah] Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity’s guiding principles–what the church calls the “Black Value System”–included a “Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.’” Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright: Former Muslim


4. Senator Obama slips up and says “my Muslim faith” in an interview with George Stephanopoulus:
‘OBAMA: And what was the first thing the McCain?s campaign went out and did? They said, look, these liberal blogs that support Obama are out there attacking Governor Palin.
Let’s not play games. What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you’re absolutely right that that has not come–
STEPHANOPOULOS: Christian faith.
OBAMA: — my Christian faith. Well, what I’m saying is that he hasn’t suggested–
STEPHANOPOULOS: Has connections, right.
OBAMA: — that I’m a Muslim. And I think that his campaign’s upper echelons have not, either.
Here comes the RAIN: “My Muslim Faith…” | The Moderate Voice





5. Obama supported movements aimed at throwing out pro-American tending governments in Egypt, and Libya….yet when pro-democracy movements in Iran took to the streets…”Yet instead of coming to their aid, Obama validated the America-hating regime's rigged election of the totalitarian theocrat Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as freedom-seeking revolutionaries were gunned down in the streets.”
The Elephant in the Room: Obama's failing Iran policy




6. Valerie B. Jarrett is a Senior Advisor to President Barack Obama. She is also the Chair of the White House Council on Women and Girls. Senior Advisor Valerie Jarrett | The White House

a. Chicago businesswoman Valerie Jarrett has earned all sorts of nicknames as an aide to President-elect Barack Obama — from "First Friend" to "big sister" to "the other half of Obama's brain." 2-min Bio: Valerie Jarrett - TIME


b. Valerie Jarrett was born in Shiraz,Iran.
Valerie Jarrett - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This sure looks like a 'JDLR' situation.....




...'Just Doesn't Look Right'

The new definition of the word failure
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Isn't it amazing that a Kenyan Muslim Islamofascist Pedophile Hiter Stalinish person is totally whomping Mitten in the polls?

:)
 
Are you going to stop talking about Obamas "formative years" after November?

formative years begins in adolescence, Obama moved back home to Hawaii when he was 10.... it begins with Puberty, about 11 years old through about 19 years old....11-19

He wasn't in Indonesia during his formative years so it seems good ole PC was just hoping her followers were ignorant enough to believe her lie on this one....

you have to admit, "formative years"...it sounds good and plays in to her mantra well....just too bad she's not telling the truth....and has to make up things, in order to support her stances.....she's smart enough to not have to lie and twist and turn, but she fails big time when she has to resort to crap like saying it was his "formative years" that were spent in Indonesia.
 
Are you going to stop talking about Obamas "formative years" after November?

I've never found conservatives trying to shut down speech.


Interesting, huh.

:clap2:

Good try.

Suggesting that your harping on "facts" that no longer matter, is not the same thing as attempting to force you to shut up. Feel free to continue to talk about Obamas childhood as if it adds any value to any converstation.
Or Romney's teenage years, or Ryans H.S. years.
 
Are you going to stop talking about Obamas "formative years" after November?

formative years begins in adolescence, Obama moved back home to Hawaii when he was 10.... it begins with Puberty, about 11 years old through about 19 years old....11-19

He wasn't in Indonesia during his formative years so it seems good ole PC was just hoping her followers were ignorant enough to believe her lie on this one....

you have to admit, "formative years"...it sounds good and plays in to her mantra well....just too bad she's not telling the truth....and has to make up things, in order to support her stances.....she's smart enough to not have to lie and twist and turn, but she fails big time when she has to resort to crap like saying it was his "formative years" that were spent in Indonesia.

"...believe her lie..."
You couldn't be more wrong.
I never lie.



Why the fear of being curious?



Here...let me help give you a little backbone:



"I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration."
— Hillary Rodham Clinton


 
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Isn't it amazing that a Kenyan Muslim Islamofascist Pedophile Hiter Stalinish person is totally whomping Mitten in the polls?

:)

You seem unhappy about this 'questioning' the behavior of "The One."


Can we agree that he seems to...what? ...be more than 'considerate' of Muslims at the risk of behaving less than unequivocally with respect to the rest of the world.....?
That appears to be unarguable. No?


Therefore, I've posited a suggestion of a closer attachment with Muslims.....
...and constructed an OP that supports same.




I'd be more than happy to entertain, if you had the time, or interest, an alternate explanation.....

.....if there is one.




Of course...this request is open to any Obama supporter.
 
Are you going to stop talking about Obamas "formative years" after November?

formative years begins in adolescence, Obama moved back home to Hawaii when he was 10.... it begins with Puberty, about 11 years old through about 19 years old....11-19

He wasn't in Indonesia during his formative years so it seems good ole PC was just hoping her followers were ignorant enough to believe her lie on this one....

you have to admit, "formative years"...it sounds good and plays in to her mantra well....just too bad she's not telling the truth....and has to make up things, in order to support her stances.....she's smart enough to not have to lie and twist and turn, but she fails big time when she has to resort to crap like saying it was his "formative years" that were spent in Indonesia.

"...believe her lie..."
You couldn't be more wrong.
I never lie.



Why the fear of being curious?



Here...let me help give you a little backbone:



"I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration."
— Hillary Rodham Clinton


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0"]I Am Sick And Tired - Hillary Clinton - YouTube[/ame]

then why do you do it PC? WHY?

even on your number 2, you pass along ANOTHER LIE about him attending 'madrassa'..... Fact checking instead of spewing lies would be refreshing coming from you ..... here's another one for ya....

CNN debunks false report about Obama - CNN
 
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formative years begins in adolescence, Obama moved back home to Hawaii when he was 10.... it begins with Puberty, about 11 years old through about 19 years old....11-19

He wasn't in Indonesia during his formative years so it seems good ole PC was just hoping her followers were ignorant enough to believe her lie on this one....

you have to admit, "formative years"...it sounds good and plays in to her mantra well....just too bad she's not telling the truth....and has to make up things, in order to support her stances.....she's smart enough to not have to lie and twist and turn, but she fails big time when she has to resort to crap like saying it was his "formative years" that were spent in Indonesia.

"...believe her lie..."
You couldn't be more wrong.
I never lie.



Why the fear of being curious?



Here...let me help give you a little backbone:



"I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration."
— Hillary Rodham Clinton


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0"]I Am Sick And Tired - Hillary Clinton - YouTube[/ame]

then why do you do it PC? WHY?

even on your number 2, you pass along ANOTHER LIE about him attending 'madrassa'..... Fact checking instead of spewing lies would be refreshing coming from you ..... here's another one for ya....

CNN debunks false report about Obama - CNN

1. Snopes says he went to a 'predominently Muslim school' in Indonesia.

2. "madrasah simply means the same as school does in the English language, whether that is private, public or parochial ..."
Madrasah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It is appropriate to use the term 'madrassah' if it was in Indonesia, and predominately Muslim.

Technically, he would be known as a 'taliban."
Know what that means?

3.So.....I never lie.
But the 'spin' of the cover-up media has had its effect on you, eh?

4. The more poignant point is why you are so protective of this incompetent windbag? It seems almost personal...

I'm certain that you know enough about the Founders to realize how destructive he is to this nation....

...yet....???
Is there a point where good folks, like you, wake up?



I would be appreciative if you would like to answer the question I pose in post #37....
 
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Right....

Remember Obama's reference to "57 states"?

I was just reminded that Snopes says there are "more or less 57 Islamic/nations/countries/states in the world."


Gee....another coincidence.
Actually Obama referenced 58 states, 57 he visited and one to go. Not that you actually research anything you post.

But what do you have to say about Willard Mittwit saying the USA is a foreign country for him on his tax return?

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