Obama now wants to force military on Obamacare

[Sallow]

Wasn't he the one dressed as a ninja?

Naw..he was the one they call, "Commander-in-Chief".

Check your Constitution out. It's a doozy.

Apparently this is supposed to sideline the OBVIOUS which is the Military Hater in Chief is now cutting the healthcare of those brave souls that risked their lives to GET Bin Ladin while Obama spent years railing against the Bush policies that really did the job.

These are the cuts that were part of the deal congress constructed because they are hell bent not to raise taxes on people with billions and billions of dollars.

Here are the results. You like?

 

[teapartysamurai]

Statists loathe the military, they always have. They fool no one.

Oh liberals will love this one. They hate the military.

What gets me is, the same liberals who railed against Bush supposedly cutting veterans benefits will turn a blind eye to this.

They only rail against ANYTHING when they think it's advantages them politically.

The funny part is..all the countries conservatives seem to hate..have huge militaries. Commies, Fascists and Dictators absolutely LOVE big militaries. Heck..they even play dress up.

Like that guy!

Get this guys. I love it when liberals reveal what they truly think. THEIR UTTER CONTEMPT FOR THE MILITARY.

Now he's saying our military is FASCIST.

So, you probably think they deserve having their benefits cut.

Thank you for playing!

 

[teapartysamurai]

He's got the VFW, American Legion, and just about every other veteran's group out there hating him big time right now.

Last week it was the Catholics.

This week it's veterans.

Who will be on his shit-list next week.

Payback's a bitch on election day Barry. You're fucking with the wrong people ... again.

AND in an election year.

Very delusional on his part if he thinks there isn't going to be a blow back on this.

 

[naturegirl]

Should everyone share the pain or should certain classes be exempt and make out well at the expense of other classes?

OK, let everyone share the pain..........all those Congressmen and Fed Employees in DC, don't forget the State Employees that have cushy health insurance and retirement benefits. Yes, let's have everyone on Obamacare. Why should anyone get a waiver??

Never thought I'd agree with you on anything did ya??

 

[Warrior102]

Heck..they even play dress up.

Hey bud - you're smarter than the average Liberal. You know GWB was a pilot. You know when he landed on the carrier that day he was in the #2 seat of the S-3, where he served as co-pilot during the flight.

What did you expect him to wear in that position? A bowling shirt?

He was flying an airplane, for Christ sakes.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Naw..he was the one they call, "Commander-in-Chief".

Check your Constitution out. It's a doozy.

Apparently this is supposed to sideline the OBVIOUS which is the Military Hater in Chief is now cutting the healthcare of those brave souls that risked their lives to GET Bin Ladin while Obama spent years railing against the Bush policies that really did the job.

These are the cuts that were part of the deal congress constructed because they are hell bent not to raise taxes on people with billions and billions of dollars.

Here are the results. You like?

Yeah, it has NOTHING to do with Obama spending so much he got us here, right???????????????

Nice try, deflecting the blame.

 

[naturegirl]

Heck..they even play dress up.

Hey bud - you're smarter than the average Liberal. You know GWB was a pilot. You know when he landed on the carrier that day he was in the #2 seat of the S-3, where he served as co-pilot during the flight.

What did you expect him to wear in that position? A bowling shirt?

He was flying an airplane, for Christ sakes.

Obama wears his golf shirt, everywhere. It's under his suit so he can rip it off on a moments notice and save Americans with a hole in one.

 

[Seawytch]

We decided to check: Does President Barack Obama intend to cut benefits for veterans?

Expansions to benefits

Obama’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2012 increases the overall Veterans Affairs budget by more than 10 percent. The numbers are big: from $53 billion in FY 2010 to almost $59 billion in FY 2012.

It provides new benefits for veterans’ caregivers, including health care and mental health services, and invests nearly $1 billion in VA services for homeless veterans and those at risk of becoming homeless.

The White House pointed us to several examples of how VA services have been beefed up, summed up in a comment Obama made in 2009:

"We dramatically increased funding for veterans' health care: more care for women's veterans, for our wounded warriors from Iraq and Afghanistan suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injuries," Obama said at a 2009 signing of a bill that funds veterans’ medical care a year in advance.

Separately, PolitiFact has given Obama seven Promise Kept ratings on pledges he made to improve services to veterans, compared with zero Promise Brokens.

Proposed cuts

Santorum’s campaign did not respond to our email about his statement, but he may have been referring to Obama's deficit reduction plan, which increases fees for some programs.

In September 2011, Obama submitted his outline for how to pay for his American Jobs Act. It was intended to serve as a guide to the joint committee tasked with finding savings in the federal budget.

In that plan, Obama proposed three possible "reforms" or increases in fees in military programs:

* A new $200 annual fee for TRICARE for Life recipients. Open to veterans 65 and older, TRICARE for Life pays out-of-pocket expenses not covered by Medicare. This proposed fee is estimated to save approximately $6.7 billion over 10 years, according to the plan.

* Increases in pharmacy co-pays. The plan says "co-payments for military members have lagged behind other federal and private plans. For example, the average co-payment for a costly brand-name drug purchased at a drug store by a federal retiree in the most popular medical plan option is estimated to be $45, compared to $9 for a military retiree."

* Review and reform military retirement benefits. The current system, the plan states, "provides generous benefits to the relatively few members who stay for at least 20 years and no benefits for the roughly 80 percent of service members who stay less than 20 years. To consider reforms the Administration plans to set up a commission to develop recommendations for reforming the current military retirement system." We should add that the president suggests grandfathering in those now serving so that major reforms don’t affect them.​

Rick Santorum says President Barack Obama wants to cut veterans’ benefits

 

[Sallow]

Oh liberals will love this one. They hate the military.

What gets me is, the same liberals who railed against Bush supposedly cutting veterans benefits will turn a blind eye to this.

They only rail against ANYTHING when they think it's advantages them politically.

The funny part is..all the countries conservatives seem to hate..have huge militaries. Commies, Fascists and Dictators absolutely LOVE big militaries. Heck..they even play dress up.

Like that guy!

Get this guys. I love it when liberals reveal what they truly think. THEIR UTTER CONTEMPT FOR THE MILITARY.

Now he's saying our military is FASCIST.

So, you probably think they deserve having their benefits cut.

Thank you for playing!

So..where in the Constitution does it mandate we have an offensive military that invades, conquers and nation builds because that nation "might" attack us? Can you find it?

Good job..Mission Accomplished.

 

[WillowTree]

The Obama administration’s proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers’ benefits untouched. The proposal is causing a major rift within the Pentagon, according to U.S. officials. Several congressional aides suggested the move is designed to increase the enrollment in Obamacare’s state-run insurance exchanges.


The disparity in treatment between civilian and uniformed personnel is causing a backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention.


The proposed increases in health care payments by service members, which must be approved by Congress, are part of the Pentagon’s $487 billion cut in spending. It seeks to save $1.8 billion from the Tricare medical system in the fiscal 2013 budget, and $12.9 billion by 2017.


Many in Congress are opposing the proposed changes, which would require the passage of new legislation before being put in place.


“We shouldn’t ask our military to pay our bills when we aren’t willing to impose a similar hardship on the rest of the population,” Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee and a Republican from California, said in a statement to the Washington Free Beacon. “We can’t keep asking those who have given so much to give that much more.”

Read more: Pres. Obama to Cut Health Care for Troops - President Obama - Fox Nation

Remember when liberals claimed Bush cut benefits for Veterans? Let's see if they even raise an eyelash over this. REAL cuts to our military, and all designed to force the military to be dependent on Obamacare.

Nooooooooooo, Obama isn't a socialist. Nooooooooooooo, of course not.

Time to send this out of control dictator back to Chicago. November 2012 is coming!
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How can I take this thread seriously if the article is completely biased? I mean, I'm sure a few basic facts are correct, but it is mostly Fox News spin.

I also see that the OP supports the Tea Baggers. What else can I do but laugh?

A really smart individual would be curious enough to look up his own sources to verify the truth you are retarded so you ask retarded questions.. oh well.

 

[Sallow]

Heck..they even play dress up.

Hey bud - you're smarter than the average Liberal. You know GWB was a pilot. You know when he landed on the carrier that day he was in the #2 seat of the S-3, where he served as co-pilot during the flight.

What did you expect him to wear in that position? A bowling shirt?

He was flying an airplane, for Christ sakes.

Obama wears his golf shirt, everywhere. It's under his suit so he can rip it off on a moments notice and save Americans with a hole in one.

Quite possibly because he was following the example set by George W. Bush.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3p9y_OEAdc]Now watch this drive! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[WillowTree]

Should everyone share the pain or should certain classes be exempt and make out well at the expense of other classes?

they are not classes you fucking tampon. they are young men and women doing would you are not willing to do and in return their contract says that they and their families get health care. now you want to re nig on that contract?

 

[Warrior102]

AND in an election year.

Very delusional on his part if he thinks there isn't going to be a blow back on this.

He seriously shot himself in the dick by fucking with veterans and their families. He's obviously too fucking stupid to realize what he's done.
I am sure there will be a flip-flop retraction in a day or two.
One problem - too late. Damage has been done!

 

[Warrior102]

Quite possibly because he was following the example set by George W. Bush.

Again, with the George Bush.

 

[Seawytch]

Oh liberals will love this one. They hate the military.

What gets me is, the same liberals who railed against Bush supposedly cutting veterans benefits will turn a blind eye to this.

They only rail against ANYTHING when they think it's advantages them politically.

The funny part is..all the countries conservatives seem to hate..have huge militaries. Commies, Fascists and Dictators absolutely LOVE big militaries. Heck..they even play dress up.

Like that guy!

Get this guys. I love it when liberals reveal what they truly think. THEIR UTTER CONTEMPT FOR THE MILITARY.

Now he's saying our military is FASCIST.

So, you probably think they deserve having their benefits cut.

Thank you for playing!

They don't "deserve" to have their benefits cut any more than teachers, firefighters, policemen or other public service employees "deserve" to have their benefits cut.

I don't recall you minding governments cutting the benefits to their public service employees, increasing THEIR cost shares.

 

[Moonglow]

Should everyone share the pain or should certain classes be exempt and make out well at the expense of other classes?

they are not classes you fucking tampon. they are young men and women doing would you are not willing to do and in return their contract says that they and their families get health care. now you want to re nig on that contract?

Can you show me where in the contract it states this? During Reagan you were lucky to get an asprin

 

[Moonglow]

The funny part is..all the countries conservatives seem to hate..have huge militaries. Commies, Fascists and Dictators absolutely LOVE big militaries. Heck..they even play dress up.

Like that guy!

Get this guys. I love it when liberals reveal what they truly think. THEIR UTTER CONTEMPT FOR THE MILITARY.

Now he's saying our military is FASCIST.

So, you probably think they deserve having their benefits cut.

Thank you for playing!

They don't "deserve" to have their benefits cut any more than teachers, firefighters, policemen or other public service employees "deserve" to have their benefits cut.

I don't recall you minding governments cutting the benefits to their public service employees, increasing THEIR cost shares.

Congress is cutting many items from our VA, not Obama

 

[Sallow]

We decided to check: Does President Barack Obama intend to cut benefits for veterans?

Expansions to benefits

Obama’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2012 increases the overall Veterans Affairs budget by more than 10 percent. The numbers are big: from $53 billion in FY 2010 to almost $59 billion in FY 2012.

It provides new benefits for veterans’ caregivers, including health care and mental health services, and invests nearly $1 billion in VA services for homeless veterans and those at risk of becoming homeless.

The White House pointed us to several examples of how VA services have been beefed up, summed up in a comment Obama made in 2009:

"We dramatically increased funding for veterans' health care: more care for women's veterans, for our wounded warriors from Iraq and Afghanistan suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injuries," Obama said at a 2009 signing of a bill that funds veterans’ medical care a year in advance.

Separately, PolitiFact has given Obama seven Promise Kept ratings on pledges he made to improve services to veterans, compared with zero Promise Brokens.

Proposed cuts

Santorum’s campaign did not respond to our email about his statement, but he may have been referring to Obama's deficit reduction plan, which increases fees for some programs.

In September 2011, Obama submitted his outline for how to pay for his American Jobs Act. It was intended to serve as a guide to the joint committee tasked with finding savings in the federal budget.

In that plan, Obama proposed three possible "reforms" or increases in fees in military programs:

* A new $200 annual fee for TRICARE for Life recipients. Open to veterans 65 and older, TRICARE for Life pays out-of-pocket expenses not covered by Medicare. This proposed fee is estimated to save approximately $6.7 billion over 10 years, according to the plan.

* Increases in pharmacy co-pays. The plan says "co-payments for military members have lagged behind other federal and private plans. For example, the average co-payment for a costly brand-name drug purchased at a drug store by a federal retiree in the most popular medical plan option is estimated to be $45, compared to $9 for a military retiree."

* Review and reform military retirement benefits. The current system, the plan states, "provides generous benefits to the relatively few members who stay for at least 20 years and no benefits for the roughly 80 percent of service members who stay less than 20 years. To consider reforms the Administration plans to set up a commission to develop recommendations for reforming the current military retirement system." We should add that the president suggests grandfathering in those now serving so that major reforms don’t affect them.​

Rick Santorum says President Barack Obama wants to cut veterans’ benefits

Gotta love it.

So this, like so many other TPS threads..is based on an outright lie.

 

[WillowTree]

Should everyone share the pain or should certain classes be exempt and make out well at the expense of other classes?

they are not classes you fucking tampon. they are young men and women doing would you are not willing to do and in return their contract says that they and their families get health care. now you want to re nig on that contract?

Can you show me where in the contract it states this? During Reagan you were lucky to get an asprin

you want the contract asshole go look it up. I was raised military and we got health care.

 

[Warrior102]

Can you show me where in the contract it states this? During Reagan you were lucky to get an asprin

You are so full of fucking horseshit. The years I served, under Reagan, were the best I ever served. We got anything we asked for, vs. the failed Carter and Clinton years. They gutted our military and cut $$$, just like the current Asswipe In Chief is doing.

And it is in the contract - look it up yourself

Better yet - see a recruiter and enlist.

We need the cannon fodder.