Obama not going to compromise

[tooAlive]

Even with raising the taxes on the rich, the revenue gained from that will still leave a trillion dollar deficit next year. You lefties have been duped and too damn stupid to figure it out. Oh I know, you won, just to prove it was party above country all along.

Isn't it true that allowing the middle class and the rich to keep the Bush tax cuts up to $250,000 a step towards reducing deficit spending?

Yes or no, Meister.

Haven't the Republicans argued for months that uncertainty on such issues slowed our recover? Yes or no, Meister.

Isn't it clear, then, if such is true a responsible Republican would pass a middle class tax cut and let the Bush Tax Cuts expire, then make a deal so drastic cuts across the board are not inplemented? Yes or no, Meister.

Wry, what Meister is saying is that the proposed 4% increase on top marginal tax rates is like pouring a teaspoon of sugar into the ocean.

In other words, it's pointless.

In other words, the only reasonable solution is to cut spending.

 

[P@triot]

You are a big pussy

Anyone who threatens a bloodbath over a minor adjustment in the tax structure and some health insurance is, by definition....a pussy

Own it

First of all, I'm far too busy owning you to concern myself with owning anything else

Second, I never threatened anyone or anything. I simply stated that fucking idiots just like you are sending us to collapse like Greece. Now, if you weren't so fucking ignorant of world affairs, you would know that Greece has been entangled in deadly riots for about 3 or 4 years now.

Since you guys have caused the mess, I simply stated that I support letting you assholes finish what you started, and once the deadly riots start and finish, we'll rebuild it back to Constitutional government (which, I also stated, you assholes would destroy again in another 100 years because you idiot liberal dumbocrats refuse to learn anything - your ideology is rigid and supersedes all facts and reality).

 

[zeke]

Actually (and sadly), you really are scared. That's why you lashed out at the thought of a civil war and called me a "pussy" (how ironic). It's remarkable how many ways fear presents itself. It even caused you to alter your writing style, simply from the thought of something you fear.

You are a big pussy

Anyone who threatens a bloodbath over a minor adjustment in the tax structure and some health insurance is, by definition....a pussy

Own it

You're missing the point.

A 4% increase on top marginal tax rates is really insignificant.

The Republicans simply want the Democrats to cut spending as well instead of just putting it off for later.

Don't know where you live, but where I live (Ohio) the Fed guvmint has cut spending significantly.
There are even charts that show that spending under Obama has slowed. I am sure that Obama wishes that the only debt and obligations he had to manage was the money spent just while he has been in office. But debt and obligations don't work that way.

Be careful saying that a 4% increase in rates is insigificant. ANY support for an increase in rate will cause you to lose your repub decoder ring.

Hey and if the dude going to war over taxes is still on; will the revolution be televised?
Like Ruby Ridge? and Waco? Give us a heads up, so we don't miss it.

 

[tooAlive]

Did you miss the last election? It was "We the People" who empowered them

Did you miss the Supreme Court decision on Obamacare? They do have the power to mandate insurance coverage.

Our laws do enable the government to take care of the people throughwelfare, social security and Obamacare. If you are unhappy, you are allowed to elect representatives who will repeal them. That is the way our government works

You are welcome to ignore our system of government and resort to bloodshed. But you will be treated as the criminal you are

As I previously stated, please refrain from speaking about things you know nothing about.

You have ZERO understanding of your own government, and then (like a complete fucking tool) you give this false patriot bullshit of "We the people" (it would be fucking hilarious if it wasn't so sad).

For instance, you are truly so fuck'n stupid, you don't even realize there are 3 branches of government (Legislative, Executive, and Judicial). And, surprise dummy, the judicial branch (ie the Supreme Court) does NOT get to make law from the bench. So it's completely irrelevant that a court stacked with left-wing wacko's like Sotomayor, Kagen, and Ginnsburg say it's ok for the federal government to force citizens to purchase something. It's NOT ok, and their ruling doesn't change that. That power simply does not exist in the U.S. Constitution. Period. End of story. And that is what governs our system, not the Supreme Court, stupid.

And no, our laws do NOT enable our government to take care of people. This how dumb you are. You literally make shit up as you go, and try to pass it off as fact. Name one single "law" that states that is the responsibility of the US government. ONE. I dare you. Tell me where in the U.S. Constitution that is stated?

Lets start with this (since you think the Supreme Court makes laws from the bench) - who ACTUALLY makes laws? Maybe you can look it up (if you've figured out how to use the internet yet)?

Looks like you missed out on the last 200 years of American history. Obamacare was challenged on the grounds of unconstitutionality. The Challenge has failed

We the People have spoken

One single law that says the government has responsibility to take care of people? We have thousands of such laws (ACA for one)

All have passed constitutional muster

Congress passed the ACA. The Supreme Court declared it to be Constitutional

American Constitutional system at work

Rightwinger, lets be honest. The majority of the people who voted in favor of Obamacare have absolutely no idea what it actually does.

 

[P@triot]

Looks like you missed out on the last 200 years of American history. Obamacare was challenged on the grounds of unconstitutionality. The Challenge has failed

We the People have spoken

One single law that says the government has responsibility to take care of people? We have thousands of such laws (ACA for one)

All have passed constitutional muster

Congress passed the ACA. The Supreme Court declared it to be Constitutional

American Constitutional system at work

Seriously, how are you not embarrassed by the nonsense you spew? If you were to read all 2,100 pages of the ACA, you would not find one single section that states "taking care of people" is the responsibility of the federal government.

Furthermore, even if it did, it would be irrelevant because the ACA does not supersede the U.S. Constitution, stupid.

Now, lets try again son. Which branch is responsible for creating laws?

 

[P@triot]

You are a big pussy

Anyone who threatens a bloodbath over a minor adjustment in the tax structure and some health insurance is, by definition....a pussy

Own it

You're missing the point.

A 4% increase on top marginal tax rates is really insignificant.

The Republicans simply want the Democrats to cut spending as well instead of just putting it off for later.

Don't know where you live, but where I live (Ohio) the Fed guvmint has cut spending significantly.
There are even charts that show that spending under Obama has slowed. I am sure that Obama wishes that the only debt and obligations he had to manage was the money spent just while he has been in office. But debt and obligations don't work that way.

Be careful saying that a 4% increase in rates is insigificant. ANY support for an increase in rate will cause you to lose your repub decoder ring.

Hey and if the dude going to war over taxes is still on; will the revolution be televised?
Like Ruby Ridge? and Waco? Give us a heads up, so we don't miss it.

Nice try, but more than 50% of the total federal debt was created by him. When he took office, it had taken the United States 235 years to accumulate $9 trillion in debt (which, by the way, Obama himself called "unpatriotic"). It took Obama 3.5 years to spend $7 trillion!!!

So yeah, we all wish that Obama would manage just his own debt. Because that would eliminate nearly 50% alone. It's amazing how ignorant of facts and reality you Obamazombies are...

 

[rightwinger]

Actually (and sadly), you really are scared. That's why you lashed out at the thought of a civil war and called me a "pussy" (how ironic). It's remarkable how many ways fear presents itself. It even caused you to alter your writing style, simply from the thought of something you fear.

You are a big pussy

Anyone who threatens a bloodbath over a minor adjustment in the tax structure and some health insurance is, by definition....a pussy

Own it

Really? By definition? Once again, we see just how profoundly stupid (not to mention, scared) you really are. Here is the actual definition (word for word)...

pus·sy
/ˈpo͝osē/
Noun
A cat.
vulgar. A woman's genitals.

Yea...a Woman's genitals about sums it up

Someone who threatens violence because they lost an election.....huge pussy

 

[rightwinger]

You're missing the point.

A 4% increase on top marginal tax rates is really insignificant.

The Republicans simply want the Democrats to cut spending as well instead of just putting it off for later.

Don't know where you live, but where I live (Ohio) the Fed guvmint has cut spending significantly.
There are even charts that show that spending under Obama has slowed. I am sure that Obama wishes that the only debt and obligations he had to manage was the money spent just while he has been in office. But debt and obligations don't work that way.

Be careful saying that a 4% increase in rates is insigificant. ANY support for an increase in rate will cause you to lose your repub decoder ring.

Hey and if the dude going to war over taxes is still on; will the revolution be televised?
Like Ruby Ridge? and Waco? Give us a heads up, so we don't miss it.

Nice try, but more than 50% of the total federal debt was created by him. When he took office, it had taken the United States 235 years to accumulate $9 trillion in debt (which, by the way, Obama himself called "unpatriotic"). It took Obama 3.5 years to spend $7 trillion!!!

So yeah, we all wish that Obama would manage just his own debt. Because that would eliminate nearly 50% alone. It's amazing how ignorant of facts and reality you Obamazombies are...

I'm sure you can back that one up. Just because Glenn Beck said it doesn't make it so

$8 trillion in debt.....show where Obama obligated that money

 

[Sallow]

Trickle Down was discredited in the 1980s

Still trying to sell a losing hand?

"Discredited"?!?!....

Reagan had 10x's the economy that Obama has given us. Which one has been discredited, stupid?

No he didn't.

We had multiple bank failures and financial bailouts during the Reagan era. Along with one of the largest tax hikes. Debt also quadrupled.

 

[rightwinger]

Looks like you missed out on the last 200 years of American history. Obamacare was challenged on the grounds of unconstitutionality. The Challenge has failed

We the People have spoken

One single law that says the government has responsibility to take care of people? We have thousands of such laws (ACA for one)

All have passed constitutional muster

Congress passed the ACA. The Supreme Court declared it to be Constitutional

American Constitutional system at work

Seriously, how are you not embarrassed by the nonsense you spew? If you were to read all 2,100 pages of the ACA, you would not find one single section that states "taking care of people" is the responsibility of the federal government.

Furthermore, even if it did, it would be irrelevant because the ACA does not supersede the U.S. Constitution, stupid.

Now, lets try again son. Which branch is responsible for creating laws?

If Congress passes a law that says the Government will take care of people then yes, taking care of people is a responsibility of the US Government

Examples?

Veterans benefits, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare ALL passed by Congress and ALL obligating the government to take care of people

Constitutional? You bet your ass......Upheld by the courts

 

[rightwinger]

As I previously stated, please refrain from speaking about things you know nothing about.

You have ZERO understanding of your own government, and then (like a complete fucking tool) you give this false patriot bullshit of "We the people" (it would be fucking hilarious if it wasn't so sad).

For instance, you are truly so fuck'n stupid, you don't even realize there are 3 branches of government (Legislative, Executive, and Judicial). And, surprise dummy, the judicial branch (ie the Supreme Court) does NOT get to make law from the bench. So it's completely irrelevant that a court stacked with left-wing wacko's like Sotomayor, Kagen, and Ginnsburg say it's ok for the federal government to force citizens to purchase something. It's NOT ok, and their ruling doesn't change that. That power simply does not exist in the U.S. Constitution. Period. End of story. And that is what governs our system, not the Supreme Court, stupid.

And no, our laws do NOT enable our government to take care of people. This how dumb you are. You literally make shit up as you go, and try to pass it off as fact. Name one single "law" that states that is the responsibility of the US government. ONE. I dare you. Tell me where in the U.S. Constitution that is stated?

Lets start with this (since you think the Supreme Court makes laws from the bench) - who ACTUALLY makes laws? Maybe you can look it up (if you've figured out how to use the internet yet)?

Looks like you missed out on the last 200 years of American history. Obamacare was challenged on the grounds of unconstitutionality. The Challenge has failed

We the People have spoken

One single law that says the government has responsibility to take care of people? We have thousands of such laws (ACA for one)

All have passed constitutional muster

Congress passed the ACA. The Supreme Court declared it to be Constitutional

American Constitutional system at work

Rightwinger, lets be honest. The majority of the people who voted in favor of Obamacare have absolutely no idea what it actually does.

Of course they did

Each Congressman has staff and subject matter experts who dissect the bill and tell him of any major issues he needs to be aware of. In the case of Obamacare, it was all over the media...both positive and negative

there were no secrets

 

[GuyPinestra]

Looks like you missed out on the last 200 years of American history. Obamacare was challenged on the grounds of unconstitutionality. The Challenge has failed

We the People have spoken

One single law that says the government has responsibility to take care of people? We have thousands of such laws (ACA for one)

All have passed constitutional muster

Congress passed the ACA. The Supreme Court declared it to be Constitutional

American Constitutional system at work

Seriously, how are you not embarrassed by the nonsense you spew? If you were to read all 2,100 pages of the ACA, you would not find one single section that states "taking care of people" is the responsibility of the federal government.

Furthermore, even if it did, it would be irrelevant because the ACA does not supersede the U.S. Constitution, stupid.

Now, lets try again son. Which branch is responsible for creating laws?

If Congress passes a law that says the Government will take care of people then yes, taking care of people is a responsibility of the US Government

Examples?

Veterans benefits, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare ALL passed by Congress and ALL obligating the government to take care of people

Constitutional? You bet your ass......Upheld by the courts

You idiots got what you wanted, go ahead and burn the motherfucker DOWN!

Have at it! You WON, remember?

What you fools don't realize is that 'Atlas Shrugged' will be the result of your folly, and when you fools are starving in the streets and there are no more producers to take from you will start devouring yourselves.

With any luck you'll eliminate the genetic defect that causes liberalism.

Oh happy day!!

 

[Meister]

Looks like you missed out on the last 200 years of American history. Obamacare was challenged on the grounds of unconstitutionality. The Challenge has failed

We the People have spoken

One single law that says the government has responsibility to take care of people? We have thousands of such laws (ACA for one)

All have passed constitutional muster

Congress passed the ACA. The Supreme Court declared it to be Constitutional

American Constitutional system at work

Seriously, how are you not embarrassed by the nonsense you spew? If you were to read all 2,100 pages of the ACA, you would not find one single section that states "taking care of people" is the responsibility of the federal government.

Furthermore, even if it did, it would be irrelevant because the ACA does not supersede the U.S. Constitution, stupid.

Now, lets try again son. Which branch is responsible for creating laws?

If Congress passes a law that says the Government will take care of people then yes, taking care of people is a responsibility of the US Government

Examples?

Veterans benefits, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare ALL passed by Congress and ALL obligating the government to take care of people

Constitutional? You bet your ass......Upheld by the courts

Like we could afford it, leftwinger.

 

[uscitizen]

Obama compromised like hell on the ACA, that is why is somewhat a piece of crap.

 

[uscitizen]

Seriously, how are you not embarrassed by the nonsense you spew? If you were to read all 2,100 pages of the ACA, you would not find one single section that states "taking care of people" is the responsibility of the federal government.

Furthermore, even if it did, it would be irrelevant because the ACA does not supersede the U.S. Constitution, stupid.

Now, lets try again son. Which branch is responsible for creating laws?

If Congress passes a law that says the Government will take care of people then yes, taking care of people is a responsibility of the US Government

Examples?

Veterans benefits, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare ALL passed by Congress and ALL obligating the government to take care of people

Constitutional? You bet your ass......Upheld by the courts

Like we could afford it, leftwinger.

Ohh about like we could afford a couple of useless 10 year or more wars....

 

[rightwinger]

Seriously, how are you not embarrassed by the nonsense you spew? If you were to read all 2,100 pages of the ACA, you would not find one single section that states "taking care of people" is the responsibility of the federal government.

Furthermore, even if it did, it would be irrelevant because the ACA does not supersede the U.S. Constitution, stupid.

Now, lets try again son. Which branch is responsible for creating laws?

If Congress passes a law that says the Government will take care of people then yes, taking care of people is a responsibility of the US Government

Examples?

Veterans benefits, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare ALL passed by Congress and ALL obligating the government to take care of people

Constitutional? You bet your ass......Upheld by the courts

You idiots got what you wanted, go ahead and burn the motherfucker DOWN!

Have at it! You WON, remember?

What you fools don't realize is that 'Atlas Shrugged' will be the result of your folly, and when you fools are starving in the streets and there are no more producers to take from you will start devouring yourselves.

With any luck you'll eliminate the genetic defect that causes liberalism.

Oh happy day!!

Yes, as a liberal, I am proud we got what we wanted

Older Americans not afraid of how they will survive in their later years
Americans not afraid of where their next meal will come from
Americans not afraid that they will become sick and not be able to pay for care
People with preexisting conditions being able to get healthcare

Atlas shrugged is a libertarian fantasy

 

[rightwinger]

Seriously, how are you not embarrassed by the nonsense you spew? If you were to read all 2,100 pages of the ACA, you would not find one single section that states "taking care of people" is the responsibility of the federal government.

Furthermore, even if it did, it would be irrelevant because the ACA does not supersede the U.S. Constitution, stupid.

Now, lets try again son. Which branch is responsible for creating laws?

If Congress passes a law that says the Government will take care of people then yes, taking care of people is a responsibility of the US Government

Examples?

Veterans benefits, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare ALL passed by Congress and ALL obligating the government to take care of people

Constitutional? You bet your ass......Upheld by the courts

Like we could afford it, leftwinger.

We can afford a military that is stronger than the next ten forces combined

Yes we can afford to take care of our veterans, elderly, poor and sick

 

[Sallow]

If Congress passes a law that says the Government will take care of people then yes, taking care of people is a responsibility of the US Government

Examples?

Veterans benefits, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare ALL passed by Congress and ALL obligating the government to take care of people

Constitutional? You bet your ass......Upheld by the courts

Like we could afford it, leftwinger.

We can afford a military that is stronger than the next ten forces combined

Yes we can afford to take care of our veterans, elderly, poor and sick

Now now. So long as we have bombs, bullets and guns..we will never have to worry about eating.

Just ask the North Koreans.

Look how well arming themselves to the teeth is working!

 

[freedombecki]

Obama compromised like hell on the ACA, that is why is somewhat a piece of crap.

Dictation is not compromise, uscitizen.

 

[Sallow]

Seriously, how are you not embarrassed by the nonsense you spew? If you were to read all 2,100 pages of the ACA, you would not find one single section that states "taking care of people" is the responsibility of the federal government.

Furthermore, even if it did, it would be irrelevant because the ACA does not supersede the U.S. Constitution, stupid.

Now, lets try again son. Which branch is responsible for creating laws?

If Congress passes a law that says the Government will take care of people then yes, taking care of people is a responsibility of the US Government

Examples?

Veterans benefits, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare ALL passed by Congress and ALL obligating the government to take care of people

Constitutional? You bet your ass......Upheld by the courts

You idiots got what you wanted, go ahead and burn the motherfucker DOWN!

Have at it! You WON, remember?

What you fools don't realize is that 'Atlas Shrugged' will be the result of your folly, and when you fools are starving in the streets and there are no more producers to take from you will start devouring yourselves.

With any luck you'll eliminate the genetic defect that causes liberalism.

Oh happy day!!

What "producers" are you talking about?

Seriously?

Who are these guys?

Cause the CEO's I've met are a bunch of self-aggrandizing overpaid blowhards that don't know their asses from their elbows.

Are those the people you are worried about losing?

Good riddance.