Obama not Constitutionally eligible to be President

[Procrustes Stretched]

Once again Hawaii CERTIFIED he was born there and has a legal Birth Certificate from that STATE. Children can have dual citizenship until majority age. It does not effect their US citizenship.

This case will be thrown out like all the rest.

needs repeating

 

[RetiredGySgt]

why are you refusing to understand the law on this?

are you retarded or just intentionally trolling?

He is delusional. He will be making this claim for every day Obama is President. Much like you all kept claim Bush was a retard, a monkey or was a draft Dodger.

 

[DiveCon]

He is delusional. He will be making this claim for every day Obama is President. Much like you all kept claim Bush was a retard, a monkey or was a draft Dodger.

yep, pretty much

 

[Dr Grump]

to sue, you would need to prove damages, and since so few actually take her seriously, there would be no damage
LOL

Only because people smear her. Her research is pretty thorough. I have noticed the odd slant on her part by using emotive words in the negative, but that aside, her FACTS are hard to dispute...

 

[jillian]

He is delusional. He will be making this claim for every day Obama is President. Much like you all kept claim Bush was a retard, a monkey or was a draft Dodger.

Can you ever just agree with people?

Or does every thread have to rehash your complaints?

 

[del]

1) She has never been sued.
2) She has extensive notes at the back of her book.
3) I know people try and dis her because they think she is a lightweight, however having read A Berg's Pulitzer bio on Lindburgh, I can categorically say that his notes are nowhere near as extensive as hers.
4) Before dissing her, read the book. If you can find out where she is wrong and prove it, be my guest...

sorry, doc, in my book she's a joke. has been for years. no hard feelings

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

He held both U.S. and Kenyan citizenship as a child, but lost his Kenyan citizenship automatically on his 21st birthday.

He held both U.S. and Kenyan citizenship as a child, but lost his Kenyan citizenship automatically on his 21st birthday.

The Rocky Mountain News did in fact run an online article asserting that Barack Obama holds both American and Kenyan citizenship. The article was incorrect, and the paper removed the item from the article and ran a correction. The paper's editor, John Temple, formally apologized for the error in an Aug. 15, 2007, column. Neither the correction nor the apology has prevented the column from circulating across the Internet as part of the latest set of baseless rumors that Obama is ineligible to run for president.

There was a grain of truth to what the Rocky Mountain News reported, though understanding why requires a brief history lesson.

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children:

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

Obama's British citizenship was short-lived. On Dec. 12, 1963, Kenya formally gained its independence from the United Kingdom. Chapter VI, Section 87 of the Kenyan Constitution specifies that:

1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963...

2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall, if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1), become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963.

As a citizen of the UKC who was born in Kenya, Obama's father automatically received Kenyan citizenship via subsection (1). So given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UKC status at birth and given that Obama's father became a Kenyan citizen via subsection (1), it follows that Obama did in fact have Kenyan citizenship after 1963. So The Rocky Mountain News was at least partially correct.

But the paper failed to note that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 21, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.

- Joe Miller

FACTCHECK.ORG

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

yep, pretty much

are you two guys saying that entering and serving in the Texas Air National Guard is not teh equivalent of dodging teh draft?

 

[DiveCon]

Only because people smear her. Her research is pretty thorough. I have noticed the odd slant on her part by using emotive words in the negative, but that aside, her FACTS are hard to dispute...

ok, if she is being smeared, how come she isnt sueing those who smear her?

same reason, she couldnt prove damages because she has NO CREDIBILITY

 

[DiveCon]

are you two guys saying that entering and serving in the Texas Air National Guard is not teh equivalent of dodging teh draft?

no, it wasnt
he served
unless you also want to say joining the naval reserve, air force reserve are also dodging the draft

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

no, it wasnt
he served
unless you also want to say joining the naval reserve, air force reserve are also dodging the draft

sarcasm without a emoticon can slip by people.

maybe sarcasm is the wrong word here...but...you of all people should've gotten the mockery.

 

[Gaar]

He is delusional. He will be making this claim for every day Obama is President. Much like you all kept claim Bush was a retard, a monkey or was a draft Dodger.

It has NEVER been addressed, in the context in which it was written.

This will be its first Test.

If all of the people who believe he is eligible believe it so strongly, why do they have such a problem with it being addressed by the very Authority that is supposed to address such Issues?

One would think that everyone would relish watching our System WORK, instead of simply trying to dismiss the Subject out of hand...

 

[Ravi]

gaaarrrr

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

It has NEVER been addressed, in the context in which it was written.

This will be its first Test.

If all of the people who believe he is eligible believe it so strongly, why do they have such a problem with it being addressed by the very Authority that is supposed to address such Issues?

One would think that everyone would relish watching our System WORK, instead of simply trying to dismiss the Subject out of hand...

nonsense is often dismissed out of hand. maybe in conference another dismissal will be in order.

 

[Gaar]

nonsense is often dismissed out of hand. maybe in conference another dismissal will be in order.

And yet I have noted the citations of our Founding Fathers.

Are you saying you believe their opinions to be nonsense?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Taitz believes, “This is Chief Justice Roberts telling the Congress… the other eight Justices, that there is a problem with this election.”

:shadow:

Dr. Orly Taitz DDS, counsel for�Lightfoot v. Bowen, has had her stay application denied by Associate Justice Kennedy:

Dec 17 2008 Application (08A524) denied by Justice Kennedy.

However, she comments that the case is being resubmitted to Chief Justice Roberts:

I decided to write to Roberts. It will be an open letter, that will be posted on the Internet, it will be read at the numerous radio stations around the country, including the radio stations around all the military bases, it will be in the video form on U-tube, the whole country will be watching him.

Dr. Taitz writes further in her commentary that she is using the “process of elimination” to try to figure out which Justices are voting against giving a case hearing in Conference…

Although Dr. Taitz has the best of intentions at heart, this kind of deductive speculation is built on a faulty premise, in my view. While she certainly has the privilege of being able to resubmit her emergency stay application to whichever other Justice besides Kennedy she pleases, their collective actions in Conference will never be known to anyone outside of that circle of Justices, as it should be. Cases should be reviewed without thoughts of political expendiency.

Further, I think that Dr. Taitz is failing to consider that it is highly likely that the previous cases already considered were denied their emergency stays not necessarily because of the content of their claims, but rather because the Supreme Court has never been likely to stop the Legislative branch from fulfilling its constitutional duties (e.g.: the Electoral College poses no harm by having voted, per se, on a President-elect). Instead, the Supreme Court should be reminded by way of a follow-up suit after the Legislative branch has exhausted the electoral process that the chosen nominee, President-elect Barack Hussein Obama, is very likely an ineligible candidate for the presidency.

-Phil

Lightfoot v. Bowen: Denied by Justice Kennedy, Resubmitted to Chief Justice Roberts

 

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Chief Justice John Roberts and all of the associate justices – with the exception of Justice Samuel Alito – attended an hour-long meeting with President-elect Barack Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden this afternoon.

No explanation for the absence of Alito, who was in court this morning for arguments.

Kathleen Arberg, the Supreme Court public information officer, told CBS News' Deirdre Hester that Mr. Obama and Biden met with the justices in the West Conference Room, where they shared tea, coffee and light refreshments.

The president- and vice president-elect signed a guest book resting on a 19th century wooden writing desk in the conference room that is positioned in front of a portrait of former President and Supreme Court Justice William Howard Taft. The group then sat in high back chairs arranged around the fireplace.

Arberg declined to characterize the subsequent conversation.

Before leaving, Mr. Obama and Biden toured the courtroom and the justices' conference room. They did not visit the court gym or other areas of the courthouse.

Excited Supreme Court staffers who caught a glimpse of Mr. Obama descending the staircase on his way out erupted in cheers as he passed, Hester reports. When Mr. Obama heard the noise he doubled back to give the assembled crowd a big wave

hmmm...

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/01/14/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4722284.shtml

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

And yet I have noted the citations of our Founding Fathers.

Are you saying you believe their opinions to be nonsense?

it's called a circle jerk.

Obama is a citizen of the USA. Obama is a natural {fixed from naturalized} citizen of the USA.

Obama will legally be sworn in as President of the United States of America on January 20th, 2008.

nothing you do or say will change any of the above.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Naturalization is the acquisition of citizenship or nationality by somebody who was not a citizen or national of that country when he or she was born.

Naturalization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NATURALIZED CITIZEN - One who, being born an alien, has lawfully become a citizen of the United States Under the constitution and laws.

He has all the rights of a natural born citizen, except that of being eligible as president or vice-president of the United States. In foreign countries he has a right to be treated as such, and will be so considered even in the country of his birth, at least for most purposes.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/n039.htm

 

[Gaar]

it's called a circle jerk.

Obama is a citizen of the USA. Obama is a naturalized citizen of the USA.

Obama will legally be sworn in as President of the United States of America on January 20th, 2008.

nothing you do or say will change any of the above.

I haven't said it would stop him.

But that doesn't make him any more eligible.

And the Suits will go on, until it is addressed.