Obama--"no harsh interrogation measures against terrorists"!

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    How short American memories are:

    If one looks back at 9/11, one will remember that there were 20 Al Queda terrorists but only 19 were involved in the attack. Why? Because we had one of them in custody at least 2 weeks prior to the attack. Suspicion surrounded this individual terrorist because he was taking flying lessons & only wanted to learn how to steer the plane, & was not in the least interested in take-off's & landings.

    Obama, yesterday signed an executive order to "stop" harsh interrogation tactics, including waterboarding against terrorist suspects.

    Isn't obvious to everyone on this board that if our agencies would have used "harsher" interrogation tactics on the 20th Al Queda terrorist we may have been able to save 3000 American lives & prevent 2 ensuing wars?

    This same senario could indeed happen to Obama--yet he signed an executive order to stop "harsh" interrogation tactics. Yet at the same time, Obama knows that there are terrorists determined to attack this country in our homeland & abroad.

    If innocents die in this country or abroad because of this new executive order, so will the Obama Presidency.
     
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    Clinton proved it, obamalama reaffirms it, they care more about their image around the world than they do about American lives. It's just that simple. We need to get over it.
     
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    Lycurgus Who is Obama, really...??

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    IMO............. In a post 9/11 world, if Obama or anyone thinks that this new order will prevent us from doing what we need to, if we really think valuable information is there, then they are wrong and only kidding themselves. This order is easily skirted, legally.
     
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    Well, the world-wide popularity contest doesn't work here.

    It's only Americans that can vote in this country.

    If Obama chooses to be politically correct, versus what he was sworn into office to do, "protect this country & it's citiziens--HE'S toast.

    He just took away one of the best tools. "Waterboarding". If he does it, he can be prosecuted, if he doesn't & Americans or others die--he's crucified.
     
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    the Obama loves terrorist...they are his Friends ...he likes to pal around with them
     
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    At the same time he limited all agencies to interrogation methods specified in the military manual, he assigned a group to study whether harsher methods should be included in the military manual, so we don't know how this will turn out.
     
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    Or the terrorist would have told us anything we wanted to hear. Say we did torture the terrorist and he told us there was an immanent attack on Los Angeles that someone with bio weapons was going to crash a helicopter into an office building which would unleash the agent. We would have done everything to prevent this and pulled our resources, which could have made 9/11 worse than it is.

    There is no guarantee that when we try to get information from a terrorist that they are going to give us factual information, no matter what we do to them. We have to hold the moral high ground, because we know if one of our troops are captured by these animals, they would torture him like the Vietnamese did to John McCain.
     
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    Oh come on. A little dose of reality please. Do you REALLY think that a terrorist group is going to recognize the Geneva Convention rules? They are going to torture our guys no matter how freakin' high our perch on the moral ground is. And they won't just be dumping some water over our guys faces either. What a ridiculous argument.
     
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    It's like playing poker with someone you see cheating and abstaining from cheating due to your personal morals. No matter what if the other player is cheating he will win.

    Obama took an executive order and put us back to pre-9/11 days. That is dangerous and unexcusable......
     
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    I don't think you read my comment correctly.

    We know if one of our troops are captured by these animals, they will torture him like the Vietnamese did McCain. We know they don't give a shit about laws or have any ethics or values.

    We do, though.

    At least... we should.

    It is unacceptable for us to revert to the way we used to be. We must be a better people than they are. Not for them, but for ourselves.
     
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