Obama May Use Legislative Ploy to Jam Through Health, Tax Bills

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    March 18 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama may try to push through Congress a health-care overhaul, energy proposals and tax increases by using a partisan tactic that would thwart Republican efforts to block the measures.

    The administration and congressional Democrats are debating whether to use a parliamentary procedure called reconciliation to advance some of the biggest items on the president’s agenda. The move would allow Democrats to approve plans to raise taxes by $1 trillion, create a cap-and-trade system to rein in greenhouse-gas emissions, and overhaul health care without a single Republican vote.

    “You’re talking about running over the minority, putting them in cement and throwing them into the Chicago River,” said Senator Judd Gregg, a New Hampshire Republican who stepped down last month as Obama’s pick for Commerce secretary. “It takes the minority completely out of the process.”

    Reconciliation reduces the number of votes needed to pass legislation in the 100-seat Senate to a simple majority rather than the 60 required to overcome resistance to major bills. The tactic also limits debate to no more than 20 hours and imposes restrictions on amendments.

    Senate Democrats have a majority with 58 votes, though Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, who is struggling with brain cancer, is frequently absent. Several other Democrats often vote with Republicans.

    Obama May Use Legislative Ploy to Jam Through Health, Tax Bills - Bloomberg.com
     
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    I'm sure he will do it. That's the kind of thug he is.
     
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    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/11/...ressive-study/



    • By a margin of almost nine to one, Americans agree that “government investments in education, infrastructure, and science are necessary to ensure America’s long-term economic growth,” (79 percent agree, 12 percent neutral, 9 percent disagree).

    • More than three in four Americans (76 percent) also agree with the president’s argument that “America’s economic future requires a transformation away from oil, gas, and coal to renewable energy sources such as wind and solar.”

    • Nearly three in four Americans believe that “government regulations are necessary to keep businesses in check and protect workers and consumers,” (73 percent agree, 15 percent neutral, 12 percent disagree).

    • Nearly two in three Americans (65 percent) agree that “the federal government should guarantee affordable health coverage for every American.”
     
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    So that means that the minority should have no say in the matter at all?
     
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    :eek:

    You mean a President will try to cram through his agenda with a congress of the same political party? That's never happened before!!

    *insert sarcasm here*

    We had six years of it and not one right winger bitched.
     
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    So why is it ok for Obama to do it if you didn't agree with Bush doing it?
     
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    They're absolutely not conservatives when they were socializing our economic system for the past 8 years and bringing it to the brink of destruction with excess spending.

    Not to mention, I sure as hell protested as did everyone at the Mises and CATO institutes.

    Six years of too much spending can't be solved by four more years of too much spending. There are too many unemployed people that have to shoulder that shit, and it won't last for that much longer.
     
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    Of course, if the minority is the Republican Party then it absolutely means that they should have no say in the matter at all, now if you put the shoe on the other foot, TM would be screaming about corruption and Republican cheating for the next 40 years.

    Immie
     
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    Is "reconciliation" Constitutional? At a glance, my answer would be no.
     
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    Wrong. We ALL bitched because Bush WOULDN'T ram through an agenda, and the Republican majority in Congress cringed every time that whackjob Reid raised his voice.

    Try again.
     

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