Obama Makes False Claims during Business Week Interview

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    As usual Obama is making statements that sound good to the media but is totally opposite of what he is doing. His actions will drive every major competitive company out of the country and dry up all the mom & pops so all that will be left are government owned and run entities.
     
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    Doncha know, all the smokers make $250k or more.
     
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    Americans for Tax Reform

    OBAMA CLAIM: “I haven't signed a bill that's raised taxes yet.”

    FACT: Just 16 days into his Presidency, Barack Obama broke his central campaign promise not to raise any tax on those making under $250,000 a year.

    On February 4, 2009, President Obama signed a 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco into law. The hike of 61 cents per pack, took effect on April 1.

    OBAMA CLAIM: “To the extent that we have put in place policies, they've all been directed at helping businesses.”

    FACT: The President has championed:

    - Double-taxation of U.S. firms with subsidiaries abroad: As Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said, Obama’s double-tax proposal will cause the company to move jobs out of the U.S.: “It makes U.S. jobs more expensive…we’re better off taking lots of people and moving them out of the U.S.”

    - “Cap-and-trade” legislation: Obama supporter Warren Buffet called “cap-and-trade”, “A huge tax, and there’s no sense calling it anything else.”

    - Trade protectionism

    - Health care taxes: President Obama has championed legislation that calls for new taxes on small businesses.

    Americans for Tax Reform
    - (ATR) is ostensibly a group that pushes for lower taxes. It has close ties to the Republican Party and has frequently allied itself with the tobacco industry.

    ATR is headed by Grover Norquist, one of the most connected members of the new right-wing movement. He has close ties to the Republican Party, large U.S. business interests, and both the subsidized and regular U.S. media. Norquist helped the Heritage Foundation write the Republican's 1994 Contract With America.

    Shortly thereafter, Norquist led a right wing charge to "de-fund" the left, declaring that "We will hunt [these liberal groups] down one by one and extinguish their funding sources." Norquist has also worked as a lobbyist for clients including Microsoft, American Business for Legal Immigration, Distilled Spirits Council, Edison Electric Institute, Interactive Gaming Council, and British Petroleum.
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    "We're going to crush labor as a political entity"
    Grover Norquist - Republican economic guru
     
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    As is all too usual, no facts to refute the infotrmation, just the stale old fallacy of:

    Argumentum ad hominem (argument directed at the person)
    . This is the error of attacking the character or motives of a person who has stated an idea, rather than the idea itself. The most obvious example of this fallacy is when one debater maligns the character of another debater (e.g, "The members of the opposition are a couple of fascists!"), but this is actually not that common. A more typical manifestation of argumentum ad hominem is attacking a source of information -- for example, responding to a quotation from Richard Nixon on the subject of free trade with China by saying, "We all know Nixon was a liar and a cheat, so why should we believe anything he says?" Argumentum ad hominem also occurs when someone's arguments are discounted merely because they stand to benefit from the policy they advocate -- such as Bill Gates arguing against antitrust, rich people arguing for lower taxes, white people arguing against affirmative action, minorities arguing for affirmative action, etc. In all of these cases, the relevant question is not who makes the argument, but whether the argument is valid.
     

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