Obama lies continue to pile up

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    In this day and age of video, it amazes me that the left is so blatant with their lies. It also amazes me that, in the face of indisputable evidence in the form of video, the idiot liberal dumbocrats will still try to defend, twist, spin, and cover up the lies. Can't wait to see all of the stupid bullshit from them on this one...

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3yTAx-BrA8&sns=em]Time for Presidential Leadership on Entitlements - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    He passed Medicare reform in his first term.
     
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    It's great and all that you're posting something like this.
    BUT, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here (Liberal's Advocate?).

    You act like liberals are the only liars, ever. You're not taking into account that all politicians, at their core, are petty liars and thieves only out for themselves and their party, and that they will say anything and screw over whomever they want just to get their way.

    So to me this isn't surprising. It's just another example of a government that's been morbidly corrupt since Eisenhower.
     
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    See what I mean folks?

    For the record Mr. Greenbeard, he didn't "reform" Medicare, he exponentially expanded entitlements with Obamacare, which actually steals money from Medicare because it is so expensive, and he needed to hide the true cost from the American people.

    How can you talk about "reforming entitlements" and then spend your first term shoving Obamacare down the throats of the American people, against their will?
     
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    Yes, he did. He implemented a slate of reforms that the independent group of experts who advise Congress on Medicare have been pressing for a decade now.

    His reforms (1) shift the way Medicare pays for services away from encouraging high-volume, low (or mediocre) value service provision, and (2) promote and assist health care providers in delivering better care more efficiently and less expensively, while holding them accountable for quality outcomes.

    Obama's reforms tackle the biggest cost drivers, not just in Medicare but in the entire health system: the inflationary payment mechanisms and flawed delivery systems that have plagued the health system for decades. He institutes savings but also provides the tools needed for long-term structural reforms for getting costs under control in Medicare (and beyond). Some of the pieces of his Medicare reforms:


     
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    Surprise!



    Slower Growth in Medicare Spending — Is This the New Normal? | NEJM
    Medicare spending in surprising slowdown | UPI.com
    Washington Stuck Fighting Wrong Health-Care Battle | Bloomberg
    Bending The Health Care Cost Curve: More Than Meets The Eye? | Health Affairs Blog
    CBO Says Medicare Spending Growth Slower Than Expected | Kaiser Health News

    Note the almost absurdly low growth in Standard and Poor's Medicare index over the past few years:
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    Don't confuse him with facts. It might make him question what he's been told and God knows no good Obamaphobe can do that.
     
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    No Obama lie yet- tons of Pub lies, dupe.
     
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    I believe they can learn.
     
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    A short overview of some of the Medicare reforms passed during Obama's first term.
     
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