Obama is right of center. Please quit referring to him as leftist.

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Obama is the typical mainstream democratic politician, reflecting an amalgam of the New Deal/Fair Deal/Great Society – add the ACA to Social Security and Medicare.

 

[LibertyLemming]

Thank you.

He is more authoritarian than libertarian. So he is up on the chart and to the right.

There is nothing that precludes authoritarians from being on the left.

Hugo Chavez.

I don't recall saying otherwise?


LOOK AT THE FUCKING CHART PEOPLE BEFORE YOU WAX MORONIC

 

[auditor0007]

What's amusing to me is there isn't a genuine liberal or leftist mainstream party in this country yet all you'll hear out of retards is how the liberals or socialists are taking over.

As far right as Republicans and Conservatives have gone, liberals have had to move much closer to the center to stay relevant. Obama's liberalism is what? He supports the ACA, which had its origins in the Republican Party? Is it his stance on taxes? He's lowered them for most people. He hasn't raised them on anyone yet, although he wants to, just a wee bit. I don't think that makes him a socialist. Reagan increased taxes after cutting them.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Thank you.

He is more authoritarian than libertarian. So he is up on the chart and to the right.

What the HELL are you talking about? You clearly think that "libertarian" means liberal....

Authoritarian is far left. Libertarian is far right. Dumbocrats are now Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Nazi's, which puts them at the very end of the left with "authoritarian". Republican is Kennedy-era big government, big spending liberals, putting them half way left of center. Tea Party is dead center, ground zero, constitutional government.

Anyone who thinks Nazis are "at the very end of the left" is an idiot.

Heil Multiculturalism!!!

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"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak,
with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility
and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

 

[Neotrotsky]

What's amusing to me is there isn't a genuine liberal or leftist mainstream party in this country yet all you'll hear out of retards is how the liberals or socialists are taking over.

As far right as Republicans and Conservatives have gone, liberals have had to move much closer to the center to stay relevant. Obama's liberalism is what? He supports the ACA, which had its origins in the Republican Party? Is it his stance on taxes? He's lowered them for most people. He hasn't raised them on anyone yet, although he wants to, just a wee bit. I don't think that makes him a socialist. Reagan increased taxes after cutting them.

The left loves to push the center of US politics left to make themselves look less extreme

He lowered tax rates? - you mean because of his poor economy he just kept the current Bush rates in effedt

He hasn't raised them on anyone yet?

A 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco; no doubt effects the poor more

Taxes that took effect in 2010:

Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (Min$/immediate)

Codification of the “economic substance doctrine” (Tax hike of $4.5 billion).

“Black liquor” tax hike (Tax hike of $23.6 billion)

Tax on Innovator Drug Companies ($22.2 bil/Jan 2010)

Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike ($0.4 bil/Jan 2010)

Tax on Indoor Tanning Services ($2.7 billion/July 1, 2010)

Taxes that took effect in 2011:

Medicine Cabinet Tax ($5 bil/Jan 2011): Americans will no longer be able to use FSA type accounts with pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines
- this was part of his secret deals with BigPharma

HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike ($1.4 bil/Jan 2011)
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As for the tax from PapaObama care to pay for the mandate
it will be one of the largest tax increases in history on the middle class
and working poor

Papa Obama is as left as they come
Indeed one only needs to look at his stance on abortion and energy which is to the left
of the majority, to see how far left he really is....

As a prior posted noted, it is the limitations our system that keep him
in check-

thank god for the Republican House to keep the radical left in check

 

[editec]

Thank you.

He is more authoritarian than libertarian. So he is up on the chart and to the right.

I basically agree

There is no true LEFT in the USA.

The term leftist and rightest as applied to Rs or Ds are merely terms used by comparison one to the other.

Obama is not a leftist, Mitt was not a rightest, either.

Everybody except idiot partisans understands that obvious fact.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Everybody, except fools understands
that claiming there are no absolutes with a "absolute" statement
is misleading, at best

Perhaps, comparative analysis would help

For example, Papa Obama is to the left of Romney
Hope that helps
No need to thank me


This reminds me of the "no label" crowd
Only the people with crappy labels push this...
funny how that works

 

[Neotrotsky]

Thank you.

He is more authoritarian than libertarian. So he is up on the chart and to the right.

You have no clue what you are talking about pal.

There are 2 scales.

Liberal to Conservative

and Authoritarian to Libertarian.

A leftist can be Authoritarian. See the USSR.

Obama is an Authoritarian leftist.

Don't worry

 

[bripat9643]

Obama is the typical mainstream democratic politician, reflecting an amalgam of the New Deal/Fair Deal/Great Society – add the ACA to Social Security and Medicare.

He's a commie, in other words.

 

[bripat9643]

Typical left-wing bilge.

I basically agree

There is no true LEFT in the USA.

The term leftist and rightest as applied to Rs or Ds are merely terms used by comparison one to the other.

Obama is not a leftist, Mitt was not a rightest, either.

Everybody except idiot partisans understands that obvious fact.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Obamination is a socialist. He wants universal healthcare, he wants to take from the rich and give stuff to the poor for political support, he wants the US military to make way for China, Russia and others that are socialist minded.

He is all about spreading US wealth with the third world countries because he believes the US stole their wealth. He is even giving US tax dollars to support Brazil with Chinese help to drill for oil down south while he denies US companies new drilling permits on land and sea.

He believes he is the world's ref and is here to make sure minorities get their fair share from the white man that has raped the land and the people. He is a delusional fuck that is the product of a VD infested black man that fucked anything that moved and a fat white whore that raised him with his socialist beliefs.

He was the perfect stealth candidate, he is 1/2 white and 1/2 black so he sells well with black people and other minority groups that hate the white man. He is 1/2 white so some middle America honkeys trust him, especially since he speaks "Good English" according to Joe Biden. He acts like an "ahhh shucks" guy while he is really an evil person behind closed doors.

It is not by chance the national debt, economy and unemployment have gotten worse under him....it is part of the plan to CHANGE America into the dumbfuck socialist utopia that has popped up in circles here in the 30s, 60s and now today.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Thank you.

He is more authoritarian than libertarian. So he is up on the chart and to the right.

What the HELL are you talking about? You clearly think that "libertarian" means liberal....

Authoritarian is far left. Libertarian is far right. Dumbocrats are now Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Nazi's, which puts them at the very end of the left with "authoritarian". Republican is Kennedy-era big government, big spending liberals, putting them half way left of center. Tea Party is dead center, ground zero, constitutional government.

You're the guy who posted this, prior to the election:

News this morning reporting that Romney now leads in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Colorado. And he has closed the gap to 1 in Ohio.

That's right, Romney now leads in 3 of the most radical left-wing states in the union. The only thing more shocking would be if he took California!

Why would anyone consider any analysis you post as anything but ridiculous?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Obamination is a socialist. He wants universal healthcare, he wants to take from the rich and give stuff to the poor for political support, he wants the US military to make way for China, Russia and others that are socialist minded.

He is all about spreading US wealth with the third world countries because he believes the US stole their wealth. He is even giving US tax dollars to support Brazil with Chinese help to drill for oil down south while he denies US companies new drilling permits on land and sea.

He believes he is the world's ref and is here to make sure minorities get their fair share from the white man that has raped the land and the people. He is a delusional fuck that is the product of a VD infested black man that fucked anything that moved and a fat white whore that raised him with his socialist beliefs.

He was the perfect stealth candidate, he is 1/2 white and 1/2 black so he sells well with black people and other minority groups that hate the white man. He is 1/2 white so some middle America honkeys trust him, especially since he speaks "Good English" according to Joe Biden. He acts like an "ahhh shucks" guy while he is really an evil person behind closed doors.

It is not by chance the national debt, economy and unemployment have gotten worse under him....it is part of the plan to CHANGE America into the dumbfuck socialist utopia that has popped up in circles here in the 30s, 60s and now today.

Perhaps I miss it during all the false claims of Romney killing people
and not paying taxes

But what exactly is Papa Obama and Left's pro- growth policies?

 

[daveman]

Thank you.

He is more authoritarian than libertarian. So he is up on the chart and to the right.

There is nothing that precludes authoritarians from being on the left.

Hugo Chavez.

I don't recall saying otherwise?


LOOK AT THE FUCKING CHART PEOPLE BEFORE YOU WAX MORONIC

I've seen your chart. It's crap.

 

[Neotrotsky]

I am still laughing where it puts
Nelson Mandela

 

[GWV5903]

Thank you.

He is more authoritarian than libertarian. So he is up on the chart and to the right.

Oblamer is a pathetic excuse for a human being...

In 2012 he remains nothing more than a race baiting political pimp...

Any other label is irrelevant...