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Have you ever prevented an ongoing crime with a gun, Loki?
Do you personally know anyone who has?
I don't although I read all the time (from guns queers, mostly) how citizens prevent crimes a lot with their guns.
Now understand I don't give a rat's ass about guns or gun control, but still...I'm a middle aged guy whose known (probably) tens of thousands of people in my lifetime and I do not know a single gun ower who ever stopped a crime with their gun.
Hence my annoying question in the middle of the mindless bitchfest some of you are enjoying.
Dr. Gump dared someone to find an instance where someone was killed by soft cheese. I was obliged to do so. I think Loki just quoted what I had posted and was actually telling Dr. Gump to STFU.....I could be wrong, but this is how I think/hope it was intended.
Was kind of silly...and then he expected me to search back how far to find his association??? So did we ever find someone who died from soft cheese?
Bizarre. Thanks, kiddo.
ok seeing as though nothing I ever say gets through to you idiots Im going to continue repeating myself.
I have never changed my position in this post. YES you are monkey faggot pussies for even dreaming about owning a gun. YES someone without a gun could take your little pussy stick away from you while you sleep, while you work, while you spend time with your family...hell they dont need ANY WEAPON AT ALL TO TAKE IT!
Also, you dipshits who cant read PROOOOOOOFFFFFF!!!!! Over 80% of gun-related crimes occur with stolen or illegally obtained firearms! So I guess my fairy-tale scenarios you only see in the movies happen ALL THE FUCKING TIME!
Bureau of Justice Statistics Firearms and Crime Statistics (HERE'S PROOF)
Also on the same website you will see that AFTER the introduction of federally funded programs to better help law enforcement and neighborhood watch groups, crimes involving firearms drasticly decreased!
Every single arguement against what I have been saying in this post is CLEARLY hate speach filled with MINDLESS banter about why your fucking dick is gonna fall off if your guns are taken away!
Crime will ALWAYS happen, no matter if guns are involved or not! More people are still beaten, robbed, and raped in this country than those who get shot with a gun! Its gonna happen! So maybe you all should start thinking about what the reprocussions are for "clinging to your guns."
And Im ready for round 57 anytime guys. It is so much fun watching you retards react to me this much, its better than having a little brother!
Have you ever prevented an ongoing crime with a gun, Loki?
Do you personally know anyone who has?
I don't although I read all the time (from guns queers, mostly) how citizens prevent crimes a lot with their guns.
Now understand I don't give a rat's ass about guns or gun control, but still...I'm a middle aged guy whose known (probably) tens of thousands of people in my lifetime and I do not know a single gun ower who ever stopped a crime with their gun.
Hence my annoying question in the middle of the mindless bitchfest some of you are enjoying.
You are looking at this in completely the wrong way and are generalizing too much editec. You seem to think that everyone who owns a gun owns one for defense and safety. My dad has owned guns his whole life and until recently, never had any guns designed or intended for self defense. I own 7 guns, and 6 of them are used for recreational purposes. Target shooting, hunting, skeet, etc... Owning a gun does not put you in the category of neighborhood mercenary who thinks he's going to stop a crime. My wife's family lives in the country. THe nearest house is about a 1/2 mile away. One night they heard someone trying to get in through a window. They had time to get to a gun in the event that someone entered. They ended up calling the cops and stayed inside. Had the person gotten in before the cops got there, they would have been toast. Turns out it was some kids trying to get into the house to steal things. Had the suspects been armed and have different motives, it could have been really dangerous, but at least my wife's family would have had something to even the odds a bit. Going after an armed (gun) criminal with a butcher knife will not cut it (pun). You must live in a city if the people that own guns are assholes....which could be a possible persuasion device against guns. I've also noticed this change in the city. I went to Houstong one time and stopped at a place called Carter's Country. The guy we were dealing with was really gungho about guns and seemed to thing he was a soldier of fortune or something. I'll tell you that most country people do not act like city people when it comes to guns. A gun is like an extra arm or a home decoration. They claim Texas is the friendliest state in the Union....pretty ironic since almost "all people who own guns are assholes." (j/k)
I killed over 100 deer and countless geese, ducks, rabbits, squirrels....and I've eaten it all. I own guns for hunting, sport shooting, and yes, I keep a loaded gun in my car and my nightstand, just in case.....I have a history of needing them...
It was a bad neighborhood. An apartment over a guy's garage.... One of those shot was the "landlord" who thought he could just walk in whenever he wanted to....he found out he could not....
Geese weren't too good last year. They came down slowly, not in bunches so they were spread out. Ducks not much better. Deer were like shooting fish in a barrel though. The rabbits were taken while boredom set in at the duck and geese blinds.... I live in western Iowa....
. I always claim that we (South Texas) have the hardest goose hunt in the U.S. My reasoning is that they've been shot at the entire way down here and they're super skittish. I'm not sure on the hunting seasons in the North. Do you have two seasons? One when they're coming through, and another when they're coming back? I've been trying to save up for a hunting trip to Colorado within the next couple of years. There's a group of guys that go from my area and they go for Mule Deer and Elk. Rabbits are always fun. Down here I enjoy hunting hogs in the off-season. There's no limit or season. They tear up the fields, so the farmers like to get rid of them. Theyre pretty out of control down here.Most of the WHITE people I know who own handguns are flaming assholes, more than potential heros.
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You are looking at this in completely the wrong way and are generalizing too much editec. You seem to think that everyone who owns a gun owns one for defense and safety. My dad has owned guns his whole life and until recently, never had any guns designed or intended for self defense. I own 7 guns, and 6 of them are used for recreational purposes. Target shooting, hunting, skeet, etc... Owning a gun does not put you in the category of neighborhood mercenary who thinks he's going to stop a crime. My wife's family lives in the country. THe nearest house is about a 1/2 mile away. One night they heard someone trying to get in through a window. They had time to get to a gun in the event that someone entered. They ended up calling the cops and stayed inside. Had the person gotten in before the cops got there, they would have been toast. Turns out it was some kids trying to get into the house to steal things. Had the suspects been armed and have different motives, it could have been really dangerous, but at least my wife's family would have had something to even the odds a bit. Going after an armed (gun) criminal with a butcher knife will not cut it (pun). You must live in a city if the people that own guns are assholes....which could be a possible persuasion device against guns. I've also noticed this change in the city. I went to Houstong one time and stopped at a place called Carter's Country. The guy we were dealing with was really gungho about guns and seemed to thing he was a soldier of fortune or something. I'll tell you that most country people do not act like city people when it comes to guns. A gun is like an extra arm or a home decoration. They claim Texas is the friendliest state in the Union....pretty ironic since almost "all people who own guns are assholes." (j/k)
I would expect you to go as far back as neccessary to stay right; in this particular case, to click but one single link to aviod being a douche--that's how far.Was kind of silly...and then he expected me to search back how far to find his association??? So did we ever find someone who died from soft cheese?
Bizarre. Thanks, kiddo.
AWESOME!!!!!!!1111!!!!
Has someone said you had?I have never changed my position in this post.
You're a presumptuous retard.YES you are monkey faggot pussies for even dreaming about owning a gun.
So, that makes *WHO?* the monkey faggot pussie?YES someone without a gun could take your little pussy stick away from you while you sleep, while you work, while you spend time with your family...
That at least doesn't make the gun owner a sneaky thieving monkey faggot pussy....hell they dont need ANY WEAPON AT ALL TO TAKE IT!
I know I did not disagree with the notion that most gun-related crimes are committed with illegally obtained fire-arms--I've said that reason for this lies in the very nature of our gun control laws.Also, you dipshits who cant read PROOOOOOOFFFFFF!!!!! Over 80% of gun-related crimes occur with stolen or illegally obtained firearms! So I guess my fairy-tale scenarios you only see in the movies happen ALL THE FUCKING TIME!
Yes. Nice.
So? Your point being?Also on the same website you will see that AFTER the introduction of federally funded programs to better help law enforcement and neighborhood watch groups, crimes involving firearms drasticly decreased!
Nonsense.Every single arguement against what I have been saying in this post is CLEARLY hate speach filled with MINDLESS banter about why your fucking dick is gonna fall off if your guns are taken away!
Stipulated.Crime will ALWAYS happen, no matter if guns are involved or not!
More support for the argument that guns are not actually the problem.More people are still beaten, robbed, and raped in this country than those who get shot with a gun!
The repercussions of bringing a gun to a knife fight = repercussions I can live with.Its gonna happen! So maybe you all should start thinking about what the reprocussions are for "clinging to your guns."
No you're not--you didn't last through round 1.And Im ready for round 57 anytime guys.
My sentiments about you, exactly.It is so much fun watching you retards react to me this much, its better than having a little brother!
What's the point? You would dismiss such testimony out of hand--it would make not one bit of difference to you.Nor do I, Wayne.
Like I will continue saying, I really don't give a rat's ass about guns.
But since nearly ever time this issue comes up, some gun-queer tells us how guns are preventing crimes, I am asking people who have stopped a crime with a gun, or who personally know someone who did, to stand up and testify.
See what I mean?To date, and I've been doing this for years online, only one person claimed to have stopped a crime in progress, and I have my doubts about his veracity about that subject and everything else he'd ever written, too.
If you didn't have a gun on you, was it more because you really didn't want to have a gun, or more because really couldn't have a gun?Now I have been the victim of gun crime, and I know god damned well that the punk who pulled a gun on me didn't own it legally.
Do you believe gun laws could make it more difficult for you (than a criminal) to have a gun when it comes to a violent situation?So I do NOT believe any law we pass is going to stop gun violence because punks don't care what the laws say.
Is this because you have no intention of stopping a crime, even if able to do so?But on the other hand , I have yet to be convinced that the existence of guns (especially hand guns) is going to stop more crimes than they cause, either.
I want people to stop bullshitting themselves about how safe they (and their families) are when unarmed and facing a violent sociopath.Hey, if I lived in some shithole in America, I know damned well I'd be armed.
So I don't want any gun queer to lose his precious guns.
I just want them to stop bullshitting themselves (and anyone who will listen) about how safe those guns are really making them and their families.
It sound to me like the problem is assholes, not guns.Most of the WHITE people I know who own handguns are flaming assholes, more than potential heros.
Well, good. But do you really think that propagating ingnorance about guns is the solution to people thinking that violence, not just gun violence, is anything like what you see in the movies?Since I no longer even really know any Black people, I have to be honest and tell you I have no idea what Black gun owners are really like.
But if they live in some ghetto, I honestly can't blame them for arming themselves, just as I can't blame any White person for doing same in a similar circumstance.
I am, as you can no doubt tell, somewhat conflicted about this issue.
But I've had to deal with gunshot victims and let me tell you, it ain't like in the movies.
There's often a lot of pain, a long period of recovery, and most people never really recover from a serious gun wound.
They generally just cope with the fallout from their experience.
Not really.Now, that's a reasonable response, Brian.
Sure, no doubt I know people who own guns whose gun owership I don't know about.
Those people are, in my opinion, obviously not the gun queers I'm talking about. The own guns as tools, and don't make a big deal of it.
People who are queer for guns, who obsess about owning them, haunt boards like this, haven't you noticed?
It is far more common to encounter those who are "queer about guns." They don't like guns, and really don't like people to have guns. The consisder all in possession of guns to be murderers or future murderers, except if that person represents the government, or is their personal body-guard. They ARE afraid of guns. ANd they ARE trying to have private ownership of guns eliminated by any means neccessary, including confiscation.They tend to assume that anyone who is not -- like them -- queer for guns, must be:
1. conspiring to take their precious guns away
2. commie liberals, pacifists, or otherwise testosterone deficient
3. afraid of guns
Yeah.Guns are tools, but to these people they appear to be come kind of talisman.
It is far more common to encounter those who are "queer about guns." They don't like guns, and really don't like people to have guns. The consisder all in possession of guns to be murderers or future murderers, except if that person represents the government, or is their personal body-guard. They ARE afraid of guns. ANd they ARE trying to have private ownership of guns eliminated by any means neccessary, including confiscation.
What happened to these people to frighten them so, I wonder? I figure it was something they saw in the movies, or heard from the Brady Campaign.
This is not a compromise. ANd will do absolutely nothing to curb violent crime, while managing to disarm the potential victims and be yet ANOTHER motivation for criminals to steal.Good point.
Yes, there are definitely anti-gun queers, too.
They are just as prone to overstating the significance of guns in this society as their counterparts in the progun lobby.
On one hand we have the gun queers trumpeting that their guns are all that stand between them and anarchy.
On the other we have the anti-guns queers whining that if there was no legal ownership of guns there'd be no violent crimes.
There is a compromise, of course.
Ban hand guns.
Because folks like you refuse to hear this, I will repeat it until you do: This serves only to disarm the potential victims and be yet ANOTHER motivation for criminals to steal.Put serious laws into place which make the ownership of hand guns illegal.
Simple possession would imply that the ower is a violent criminal.
It would also serve to disarm the victims of violent crime, while being yet another motivation for criminals to steal.While that would not in the immediate term get all hand guns (and all hand gun related crimes) off the streets, it would in the medium run cut down on crimes committed with those short arms as it became increasingly difficult to obtain them illegally.
But not have handguns when they happen to be away from their homes, making them less dangerous to criminally violent predators.Responsible citizens could of course keep their long arms for home protection, sport and so forth.
Giving up guns is NOT a compromise. Here's one for you: Let those who wish to have guns, have them legally--and allow those who do not wish to have guns, not have them.But that's not a compromise that either gun queers or anti-gun queers can arrive at.
Provide a rational (not rationalized) reason that handguns should be banned, and I'll consider it.they're both too wedded to their positions to even consider it.
Really? Are you really going to assert handguns are the cause of this? REALLY?It would have a positive effect, I think both on crimes motivated for profit, and the thousands of accidental deaths and crimes of passion which play out in this society.
So WTF do my guns have to do with this? You say you're not after my guns, but you clearly ARE!Of course nothing will end crimes of passion or profit motivated completely.
Based on what, exactly?But I think the mitigation of such crimes (especially those unfortune accident deaths and domestic violence crimes) would greatly decrease by such a law.
And there are too many of us unarmed against these psychological time bombs and criminal punks armed with handguns; handguns being the preferred tool for self defense--and they're unarmed primarily because adherring to the exact laws that psychological time bombs and criminal punks armed with handguns ignore is fucking burdensome. Passing a law that regular folks will abide by, but psychological time bombs and criminal punks armed with handguns will ignore, will only make the situation worse. Whose side are these lawmakers on anyway?There's just too many psychological time bombs and criminal punks armed with handguns, in my opinion, and handguns are their weapons of choice because they can be easily hidden and carried in public.
How many of us reading this post, have ever aimed a gun at a criminal and stopped that criminal from committing the crime?
Anyone?
how many of us has also been ins a highway pileup that required the jaws of death for extraction?
I guess it's a good idea to allow such tools to be around even though the stats don't suggest a fucking epidemic, eh? Do you WANT examples of law abiding citizens fending off criminals with guns? "cause, I can give you plenty of links.
Have you ever prevented an ongoing crime with a gun, Loki?
Do you personally know anyone who has?
I don't although I read all the time (from guns queers, mostly) how citizens prevent crimes a lot with their guns.
Now understand I don't give a rat's ass about guns or gun control, but still...I'm a middle aged guy whose known (probably) tens of thousands of people in my lifetime and I do not know a single gun ower who ever stopped a crime with their gun.
Hence my annoying question in the middle of the mindless bitchfest some of you are enjoying.
I see your point, but the rejoinder would be "How many people are directly killed each year by the jaws of death?"
