Obama is a Liar

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  1. ScreamingEagle
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    Face it Democrats....your "hero of change" is just another scummy lying politician....or else he's just dumber than a box of rocks....not to mention that he aligns himself with anti-American people....but then, that's what you far left liberals are pushing for anyway, isn't it? I can hardly wait to hear how Obama is going to spin his lies in his speech tomorrow...

     
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    Both Obama and Hillary suck...All they do is bitch about each other..

    I hope McCain wins!
     
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    ...socialist.

    He doesnt want to do anything different from any of the other socialists.
     
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    better strap in the seat belt, fellas.. you are heading for turbulence at the polls!
     
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    "McCain approves of Bush’s war in Iraq and has vowed to stay the course. Although he originally opposed Bush’s tax cuts, McCain now pledges to make them permanent.

    He also supports the privatizing of Social Security, which would put the retirement system at risk and add to the current federal deficit. Seemingly willing to do anything to get elected, McCain has flip-flopped on many issues to court conservative voters.

    America has suffered greatly under President Bush. We don’t need to continue the pain with a McCain administration."

    http://www.dunnconnect.com/articles/2008/03/12/letters/letters02.txt
     
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    And your support of an obvious LIAR who associates with ANTI-AMERICANS is not skewed ?

    I'll take a proven patriot for President any day over that.

    Just which country are you from anyhow?
     
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    Given that we're winning, its the only logical thing to do.
    After all...
    "The failure of the Iraqi state would be a disaster. It would dishonor the 900-plus men and women who have already died. . . . It would be a betrayal of the promise that we made to the Iraqi people, and it would be hugely destabilizing from a national security perspective."
    --Barack Hussein Obama, July 2004

    Seems to me that not raising taxes in a recession is a good idea.

    Certainly no more at risk than having a completely empty trust fund, with the boomers entering into retirements, and quite likely far less.

    So, if 'doing anything to get elected' is so bad, why do you ignore it when your guy does it?

    Only to partisan fools such as yourself.
     
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    Was Obama in attendance when the pastor said, “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme?"

    Was Obama in attendance when the pastor said, “We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye?”

    Was Obama in attendance when the pastor said, "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost?"

    While Obama may have thought that his pastor spoke ‘kind of rough” some times, it does not mean that he heard such comments as “God Damn America”. Obama may have very well heard some things from the pastor that bordered on the outlandish. He may have had concerns with the pastor. Later, when people pointed out just how rough the pastor was on occasion (the “God Damn America” sermon), Obama denounced such comments.

    There is no proof that he lied. I’m still waiting for proof. Without it, I’ll give Obama the benefit of the doubt. I give Obama the benefit of the doubt until I see absolute irrefutable proof to the contrary. Even if Obama lied, does that cause him to be beneath McCain? Has McCain ever behaved unethically? There is plenty of factual criticism against McCain.

    http://therealmccain.com/


    Getting back to the “pastor” issue: The pastor’s quotes were cherry-picked by his opponents and broadcast to the world. It is an old trick. When the excerpts were carefully brought together, packaged, and brought to his attention, Obama denounced them. It is as simple as that.

    Even if you can show me that Obama was in attendance when the pastor said those things that were collected and posted for all to see, I will say that Obama lied and I will say “Shame on Obama”. Still, he denounced such comments anyway. Above and beyond this “pastor debate”, does that mean that I will change my vote? No. Has McCain ever told a lie or participated in things that I oppose? The fact that Obama may have heard very outlandish things from his pastor is a minor issue. I will vote based on what positions the candidates hold on issues and what policies they have supported.

    The conservative right will probably be sure to keep him (the pastor) in the public eye, even though Obama denounced the pastor’s rhetoric. I hope so. If this happens, I believe that the moderate undecided people will vote to Obama just to show spite fro your desperate petty ranting.

    I prefer to judge a person on composite of many variables – not just on who his pal is or who his mentor is supposedly. What legislation has Obama signed? What are his positions on the issues? What are his specific plans for the future? I have heard conservatives say that they have enough knowledge about a candidate if that candidate would allow abortions. I do not subscribe to such a limiting litmus test.

    As I see it, if the Republicans keep brining up the pastor, moderates will vote for Obama of sympathy or out of spite for the Republicans for harping on the issue. Obama already denounced the pastor’s rhetoric, yet the right wing just won’t let it go. Perhaps they think that it is the only thing that they have left: These desperate, practically insignificant petty fallacious attacks - for your own sake, let it go already.
     
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    That's why Obama has dropped in the polls?
     

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