Obama: I 'pulled our country back from the brink'- Yes, the brink of a real recovery

[Neotrotsky]

Again, no matter how bad you want the premise to be want it is not
does not make it so....

The premise is he is not saving us when one sees all economic indicators going in wrong direction
that is fact and proof

Now the burden is on those who claimed we were saved
how were we saved - please provide proof

What were we saved from?
The left has no proof because it is all
pure conjecture

They just want people to believe that "chocolate rations went up 25%"
even though we all know that they use to be "30%"

 

[rdean]

Obama: I 'pulled our country back from the brink'- Yes, the brink of a real recovery

Papa Obama today in trying to rewrite history in hopes
of helping him against the increasing odds that he will not
be reelected said:

"In the last several years, we have pulled our country back from the brink, through a series of tough economic decisions," ​

But as we all know, he and his leftist policies are the cause of the continuing
problems. After the dismal jobs report showing zero job growth
Charles Krauthammer, said it best,

“Obama Is President Zero – zero economic expansion, zero jobs, zero ideas on how to cure the economy.”
​

Krauthammer went on to say the president’s speech on Thursday is a campaign speech.

“He doesn’t understand that his administration has stopped the economy in its tracks.”

"This has never been asked of Obama and never answered, so far as I know. And chances are he won’t answer it definitively when he unveils his new jobs program before a joint session of Congress this week."

"But there are big clues from his prior policies and the batch of ideas now emanating from the White House. The president believes government is the premier job creator. Why? One reason is government understands markets better than the private sector, so long as the right people are in charge, like Obama himself."
​

Charles Krauthammer: 'President Zero' good name for Obama. - YouTube

With all the help and ideas Republicans gave him after passing off their mess, I'm amazed they point fingers. Because many Americans are giving them a finger back.

 

[Stephanie]

Obama: I 'pulled our country back from the brink'- Yes, the brink of a real recovery

Papa Obama today in trying to rewrite history in hopes
of helping him against the increasing odds that he will not
be reelected said:

"In the last several years, we have pulled our country back from the brink, through a series of tough economic decisions," ​

But as we all know, he and his leftist policies are the cause of the continuing
problems. After the dismal jobs report showing zero job growth
Charles Krauthammer, said it best,

“Obama Is President Zero – zero economic expansion, zero jobs, zero ideas on how to cure the economy.”
​

Krauthammer went on to say the president’s speech on Thursday is a campaign speech.

“He doesn’t understand that his administration has stopped the economy in its tracks.”

"This has never been asked of Obama and never answered, so far as I know. And chances are he won’t answer it definitively when he unveils his new jobs program before a joint session of Congress this week."

"But there are big clues from his prior policies and the batch of ideas now emanating from the White House. The president believes government is the premier job creator. Why? One reason is government understands markets better than the private sector, so long as the right people are in charge, like Obama himself."
​

Charles Krauthammer: 'President Zero' good name for Obama. - YouTube

With all the help and ideas Republicans gave him after passing off their mess, I'm amazed they point fingers. Because many Americans are giving them a finger back.

Yeah? in which zone, the twilight zone? November was THE START and Obama's and his comrades in arms APPROVAL rating are now down to 39%. Now that is the only thing you can call HISTORIC about his Presidency. He and his thuggish Commie administration.... went there in ONLY THREE YEARS.

 

[Salt Jones]

Again, no matter how bad you want the premise to be want it is not
does not make it so....

The premise is he is not saving us when one sees all economic indicators going in wrong direction
that is fact and proof

Now the burden is on those who claimed we were saved
how were we saved - please provide proof

What were we saved from?
The left has no proof because it is all
pure conjecture

They just want people to believe that "chocolate rations went up 25%"
even though we all know that they use to be "30%"

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

 

[Salt Jones]

Obama: I 'pulled our country back from the brink'- Yes, the brink of a real recovery

Papa Obama today in trying to rewrite history in hopes
of helping him against the increasing odds that he will not
be reelected said:

"In the last several years, we have pulled our country back from the brink, through a series of tough economic decisions," ​

But as we all know, he and his leftist policies are the cause of the continuing
problems. After the dismal jobs report showing zero job growth
Charles Krauthammer, said it best,

“Obama Is President Zero – zero economic expansion, zero jobs, zero ideas on how to cure the economy.”
​

Krauthammer went on to say the president’s speech on Thursday is a campaign speech.

“He doesn’t understand that his administration has stopped the economy in its tracks.”

"This has never been asked of Obama and never answered, so far as I know. And chances are he won’t answer it definitively when he unveils his new jobs program before a joint session of Congress this week."

"But there are big clues from his prior policies and the batch of ideas now emanating from the White House. The president believes government is the premier job creator. Why? One reason is government understands markets better than the private sector, so long as the right people are in charge, like Obama himself."
​

Charles Krauthammer: 'President Zero' good name for Obama. - YouTube

With all the help and ideas Republicans gave him after passing off their mess, I'm amazed they point fingers. Because many Americans are giving them a finger back.

Yeah? in which zone, the twilight zone? November was THE START and Obama's and his comrades in arms APPROVAL rating are now down to 39%. Now that is the only thing you can call HISTORIC about his Presidency. He and his thuggish Commie administration.... went there in ONLY THREE YEARS.

What are the APPROVAL ratings of Republicans and their comrades?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Again, no matter how bad you want the premise to be want it is not
does not make it so....

The premise is he is not saving us when one sees all economic indicators going in wrong direction
that is fact and proof

Now the burden is on those who claimed we were saved
how were we saved - please provide proof

What were we saved from?
The left has no proof because it is all
pure conjecture

They just want people to believe that "chocolate rations went up 25%"
even though we all know that they use to be "30%"

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

That is your premise because the Left can not support the real premise in the OP

that Papa Obama "saved us" when all economic indicators prove this not to be the case



Throughout this whole thread you wanted to discuss anything but this
-first you tried to spin to McCain
-now you want people to prove some other premise

Spin, albeit poorly, all you want

If Papa Obama saved us then surely this should be easy to prove

Exactly how did Papa Obama save us ?
Why is that so hard for the Left to do ?

The majority do not view zero job growth as "saving"
Please prove to us how that is saving us

 

[Neotrotsky]

With all the help and ideas Republicans gave him after passing off their mess, I'm amazed they point fingers. Because many Americans are giving them a finger back.

Yeah? in which zone, the twilight zone? November was THE START and Obama's and his comrades in arms APPROVAL rating are now down to 39%. Now that is the only thing you can call HISTORIC about his Presidency. He and his thuggish Commie administration.... went there in ONLY THREE YEARS.

What are the APPROVAL ratings of Republicans and their comrades?

Can't be any lower than Pelosi


Just think how low they would be if Pelosi was never there
to be compared to

 

[rdean]

Obama: I 'pulled our country back from the brink'- Yes, the brink of a real recovery

Papa Obama today in trying to rewrite history in hopes
of helping him against the increasing odds that he will not
be reelected said:

"In the last several years, we have pulled our country back from the brink, through a series of tough economic decisions," ​

But as we all know, he and his leftist policies are the cause of the continuing
problems. After the dismal jobs report showing zero job growth
Charles Krauthammer, said it best,

“Obama Is President Zero – zero economic expansion, zero jobs, zero ideas on how to cure the economy.”
​

Krauthammer went on to say the president’s speech on Thursday is a campaign speech.

“He doesn’t understand that his administration has stopped the economy in its tracks.”

"This has never been asked of Obama and never answered, so far as I know. And chances are he won’t answer it definitively when he unveils his new jobs program before a joint session of Congress this week."

"But there are big clues from his prior policies and the batch of ideas now emanating from the White House. The president believes government is the premier job creator. Why? One reason is government understands markets better than the private sector, so long as the right people are in charge, like Obama himself."
​

Charles Krauthammer: 'President Zero' good name for Obama. - YouTube

With all the help and ideas Republicans gave him after passing off their mess, I'm amazed they point fingers. Because many Americans are giving them a finger back.

Yeah? in which zone, the twilight zone? November was THE START and Obama's and his comrades in arms APPROVAL rating are now down to 39%. Now that is the only thing you can call HISTORIC about his Presidency. He and his thuggish Commie administration.... went there in ONLY THREE YEARS.

That's what name calling bitches do. Glad you're not one.

 

[boedicca]

Great job in this thread, Neo.

 

[rdean]

Yeah? in which zone, the twilight zone? November was THE START and Obama's and his comrades in arms APPROVAL rating are now down to 39%. Now that is the only thing you can call HISTORIC about his Presidency. He and his thuggish Commie administration.... went there in ONLY THREE YEARS.

What are the APPROVAL ratings of Republicans and their comrades?

Can't be any lower than Pelosi

Oh yes they can. What "ideas" have Republicans had for the last ten years. I'm talking "ideas" not "schemes".

 

[Salt Jones]

Again, no matter how bad you want the premise to be want it is not
does not make it so....

The premise is he is not saving us when one sees all economic indicators going in wrong direction
that is fact and proof

Now the burden is on those who claimed we were saved
how were we saved - please provide proof

What were we saved from?
The left has no proof because it is all
pure conjecture

They just want people to believe that "chocolate rations went up 25%"
even though we all know that they use to be "30%"

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

That is your premise because the Left can not support the real premise in the OP

that Papa Obama "saved us" when all economic indicators prove this not to be the case



Throughout this whole thread you wanted to discuss anything but this
-first you tried to spin to McCain
-now you want people to prove some other premise

Spin, albeit poorly, all you want

If Papa Obama saved us then surely this should be easy to prove

Exactly how did Papa Obama save us ?
Why is that so hard for the Left to do ?

The majority do not view zero job growth as "saving"
Please prove to us how that is saving us

What is worse than zero?

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

 

[Neotrotsky]

What are the APPROVAL ratings of Republicans and their comrades?

Can't be any lower than Pelosi

Oh yes they can. What "ideas" have Republicans had for the last ten years. I'm talking "ideas" not "schemes".

Apparently just having Papa Obama in the WH and both houses of Congress
under Democrats was enough to get back the house

So as long as Papa Obama and the Democrats don't change
they should be in good shape

 

[Neotrotsky]

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

That is your premise because the Left can not support the real premise in the OP

that Papa Obama "saved us" when all economic indicators prove this not to be the case



Throughout this whole thread you wanted to discuss anything but this
-first you tried to spin to McCain
-now you want people to prove some other premise

Spin, albeit poorly, all you want

If Papa Obama saved us then surely this should be easy to prove

Exactly how did Papa Obama save us ?
Why is that so hard for the Left to do ?

The majority do not view zero job growth as "saving"
Please prove to us how that is saving us

What is worse than zero?

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

The premise is

Exactly how did Papa Obama save us ?

 

[boedicca]

What is worse than zero?

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

What is worse than Zero is an economy that is moribund 8 quarters after the end of the supposed recession. Economic history shows that a robust recovery should have occurred after 2-3 quarters. Obama's policies made things worse...and cost millions of people their jobs.

Take a look at the BLS stats for yourself. The only reason why unemployment is not 11.5% is because millions of people have dropped out of the labor force. If one holds the LFPR constant, the real unemployment rate is over 2 points higher than reported.

And that's what we gotten from wasted stimulus money (used to prop up governments and unions), massive expansion of the regulatory bureaucracy, and tax policy uncertainty.

Thanks Obama!

 

[Salt Jones]

What is worse than zero?

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

What is worse than Zero is an economy that is moribund 8 quarters after the end of the supposed recession. Economic history shows that a robust recovery should have occurred after 2-3 quarters. Obama's policies made things worse...and cost millions of people their jobs.

Take a look at the BLS stats for yourself. The only reason why unemployment is not 11.5% is because millions of people have dropped out of the labor force. If one holds the LFPR constant, the real unemployment rate is over 2 points higher than reported.

And that's what we gotten from wasted stimulus money (used to prop up governments and unions), massive expansion of the regulatory bureaucracy, and tax policy uncertainty.

Thanks Obama!

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

 

[Neotrotsky]

What is worse than zero?

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

What is worse than Zero is an economy that is moribund 8 quarters after the end of the supposed recession. Economic history shows that a robust recovery should have occurred after 2-3 quarters. Obama's policies made things worse...and cost millions of people their jobs.

Take a look at the BLS stats for yourself. The only reason why unemployment is not 11.5% is because millions of people have dropped out of the labor force. If one holds the LFPR constant, the real unemployment rate is over 2 points higher than reported.

And that's what we gotten from wasted stimulus money (used to prop up governments and unions), massive expansion of the regulatory bureaucracy, and tax policy uncertainty.

Thanks Obama!

Now prove that this is worse than if Obama's policies were never enacted. Because that is the premise of the OP and this thread. Would the economy be in a better place today if Obama wasn't elected? Please provide proof.

The premise is that Papa Obama did not save us, proved by
poor performing economic indicators.

How did Papa Obama save us?
(the one you keep avoiding)

You must know - right?

Since you are not providing proof against this
and trying to spin the topic into something else
we can only assume you accept it as true

Glad to have you on board

 

[boedicca]

According to the Obama Administration, Unemployment should now be 6.5% due to the Stimulus Bill.

That was the goal they set for themselves, and they committed and Epic Fail.

 

[Neotrotsky]

According to the Obama Administration, Unemployment should now be 6.5% due to the Stimulus Bill.

That was the goal they set for themselves, and they committed and Epic Fail.

See

I was correct on that point

they "saved" us from lower unemployment

 

[Stephanie]

According to the Obama Administration, Unemployment should now be 6.5% due to the Stimulus Bill.

That was the goal they set for themselves, and they committed and Epic Fail.

See

I was correct on that point

they "saved" us from lower unemployment

I would stop playing with old salty, if you know what I mean.

 

[boedicca]

Good point. They saved millions of people from the drudgery of going to work in order to get a paycheck.

Instead, they get extended Unemployment Benefits so they can Stimulate The Economy.