Obama has seen one of his wishes come true..higher gas prices!

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The problem is how spoiled Americans are.

If some of my coworkers could rive thier car right up next to thier cubicle, and park it, they would. Have you ever seen some idiot drive around a parking lot furiously, for twenty minutes, trying to find a parking spot twenty feet closer to the door than one they passed up twenty times?

Mass transit, if everybody used, would have enough revenue to expand it's service areas, so it would go everywhere. When I lived in China, and Turkey, mass transit worked wonderfully. You didn't have car payments, inusrance payments, DMV fees, traffic tickets, or crowded parking lots. When my wife, I, and friends would go out to bars, nobody had to be a designated driver. When we needed to go out of town, or some kind of holiday, we'd just rent a car for the weekend. It was way cheaper than owning a car.

Gas prices wouldn't be near the problem they are now if we weren't so dependent on it. That's why the long term investment, without short term cost effectiveness, is critical to get us off the Saudi, Venezuelan, and Nigerian teets

Did you actually watch someone drive past a parking stall 20 times in 20 minutes?

Secondly, why didn't you take that spot?

 

[LilOlLady]

OBAMA DON’T CONTROL PRICE OF GASOLINE.
Consumption and productions does.

When gasoline was $1.89 a gallon people were consuming more and causing more production. When people consume less gasoline the price will go up causing less production. At times it is profitable to produce more and other time profitable to product less. All about profit. Consumption cause any thing to cost less and or more and more productions or less.

We export more oil than we import and there is no shortage of oil here or in the Middle East now or in the future.

Radical Right Wing Extremist’s rhetoric scare the hell out of stupid people.

Contact-a-liar | Fox News Lies

 

[healthmyths]

During a June 10th, 2008, interview with CNBC, then-candidate Obama said this:

HARWOOD: As difficult as this is for consumers right now, is, in fact, high gas prices what we need to let the market work, a line incentive so that we do shift to alternative means of energy?

Sen. OBAMA: Well, I think that we have been slow to move in a better direction when it comes to energy usage. And the president, frankly, hasn't had an energy policy. And as a consequence, we've been consuming energy as if it's infinite. We now know that our demand is badly outstripping supply with China and India growing as rapidly as they are. So...

HARWOOD: So could these high prices help us?

Sen. OBAMA: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing. But if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.

Obama Wanted High Gas Prices...Gradually (2008 Election Campaign) - YouTube

SO.. Let me see if this makes sense..
Obama thinks if we "put more money into their pockets" that can make up the difference in increased gas prices.

SO WHEN will the price of fuel go down?

Seriously.. you supporters .. consider..
A) Obama WANTED and WANTS gas prices to go up!
WHY? Cause he thinks that will create alternate fuel sources.
In the mean time Obama steals money from the "rich" to give to the "poor" so the
poor can buy higher priced GAS!!!

ONLY in the convoluted mind of a Socialist!

Obama is right. The higher gas prices go the more open consumers will be to alternative energy and electric vehicles.

This is a market driven idea. I don't know why any "conservative" would be against it.

Like this "market drive"...
With the approval of the Obama administration, an electric car company that received a $529 million federal government loan guarantee is assembling its first line of cars in Finland, saying it could not find a facility in the United States capable of doing the work.
Car Company Gets U.S. Loan, Builds Cars In Finland - ABC News

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Presidents do not decide what the cost of gasoline will be.

President George W. Bush was mostly attacked for wanting to drill too much (or being “cozy” with the oil industry), while President Obama’s policies are rooted in unilaterally shutting down the domestic oil industry amidst rising prices and a struggling economy.

Yes, the price of gasoline reached historic levels, rising above $4/gallon during Bush’s second term, but that wasn’t due to a lack of trying to increase domestic supply. U.S. domestic supply is but one factor in the global price of oil, and thus gas prices. But when a president purposefully chooses to decrease our domestic supply by 13%, with hopes of driving that supply even lower, and objects to U.S.-Canadian pipelines and new forms of exploration, discovery and friendly importation, the price consequences are real, and should be scrutinized.

During the first twenty-six months of President Bush’s first term in office, the price of gasoline increased by 7%. At the end of his second term, the price had decreased by 9% from the time he took office (adjusted for inflation). During the first twenty-six months of Obama’s term in office, the price of gasoline has spiked over 67% with no relief in site.

Clearly, other mitigating factors were at work between those two time periods. U.S. demand is one such factor, as is global supply disruptions, cartel pricing and the cost to refine and distribute, but the current price spikes obligate serious people to scrutinize our nation’s energy policy.

The Effect of Obama's Energy Policies on Gas Prices

 

[LilOlLady]

KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE IS A SCAM

The 1700 mile Canadian Keystone XL Pipeline from Canada to Texas is a scam by a private foreign company on Americans. All the company’s supplies use to build the pipeline will be made in China. Not by US companies. The pipeline ending in Texas will supply Canadian oil to China, India, etc. Why would we need a 1700 mile pipeline from Canada to Texas to get oil from Canada? When we don’t need a pipeline to get oil from the middle east? The Canadian Keystone XL Pipeline is the biggest foreign scam ever on Americans. Oil prices will go up and it is not worth the jobs it would create. If the pipeline was built by American with American made supplies by an American firm, it would be worth considering. Otherwise it is a scam and what is in this pipeline for the radical right wingers? Who is paying the pipeline workers, Canada or US?
The Keystone SL pipeline is a scam and not worth the jobs it would create.

http://foxnewslies.net/?page_id=347

 

[healthmyths]

See this is Obama's convoluted IDEA!
A) stop drilling in USA raise gas prices
B)Stop Keystone raise gas prices
C) EPA shuts 9th largest gas refinery.. ... raise gas prices
D) Give Finland firm $500 million build electric car.
E) Tax Americans to pay for Finish car..
F) NOW Americans with NO gas at cheap prices HAVE to buy an electric car from Finland!
GREAT CONCEPT!!!

 

[toxicmedia]

Presidents do not decide what the cost of gasoline will be.

Exactly!....remember how that was what righties said to defend Bush when gas jumped up to $4 for him?....I said it wasn't Bush's fault then, and it isn't Obama's fault now.

 

[Care4all]

During a June 10th, 2008, interview with CNBC, then-candidate Obama said this:

HARWOOD: As difficult as this is for consumers right now, is, in fact, high gas prices what we need to let the market work, a line incentive so that we do shift to alternative means of energy?

Sen. OBAMA: Well, I think that we have been slow to move in a better direction when it comes to energy usage. And the president, frankly, hasn't had an energy policy. And as a consequence, we've been consuming energy as if it's infinite. We now know that our demand is badly outstripping supply with China and India growing as rapidly as they are. So...

HARWOOD: So could these high prices help us?

Sen. OBAMA: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing. But if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.

Obama Wanted High Gas Prices...Gradually (2008 Election Campaign) - YouTube

SO.. Let me see if this makes sense..
Obama thinks if we "put more money into their pockets" that can make up the difference in increased gas prices.

SO WHEN will the price of fuel go down?

Seriously.. you supporters .. consider..
A) Obama WANTED and WANTS gas prices to go up!
WHY? Cause he thinks that will create alternate fuel sources.
In the mean time Obama steals money from the "rich" to give to the "poor" so the
poor can buy higher priced GAS!!!

ONLY in the convoluted mind of a Socialist!

Obama is right. The higher gas prices go the more open consumers will be to alternative energy and electric vehicles.

This is a market driven idea. I don't know why any "conservative" would be against it.

Nice spin. Doesn't change the facts of the op.

did you read the op? not the thread poster's comments, but what was said by obama? What's not true about it? What part about he preferred it was no taken in the leaps it has taken, cuz that does hurt the economy.... isn;t that true? I don't get what the complaint is regarding what Obama actually said? Can you explain it to me, without making something up about what Obama said, Grandpa?

you know, something to actually have a decent debate about?

 

[StevenC]

During a June 10th, 2008, interview with CNBC, then-candidate Obama said this:

HARWOOD: As difficult as this is for consumers right now, is, in fact, high gas prices what we need to let the market work, a line incentive so that we do shift to alternative means of energy?

Sen. OBAMA: Well, I think that we have been slow to move in a better direction when it comes to energy usage. And the president, frankly, hasn't had an energy policy. And as a consequence, we've been consuming energy as if it's infinite. We now know that our demand is badly outstripping supply with China and India growing as rapidly as they are. So...

HARWOOD: So could these high prices help us?

Sen. OBAMA: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing. But if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.

Obama Wanted High Gas Prices...Gradually (2008 Election Campaign) - YouTube

SO.. Let me see if this makes sense..
Obama thinks if we "put more money into their pockets" that can make up the difference in increased gas prices.

SO WHEN will the price of fuel go down?

Seriously.. you supporters .. consider..
A) Obama WANTED and WANTS gas prices to go up!
WHY? Cause he thinks that will create alternate fuel sources.
In the mean time Obama steals money from the "rich" to give to the "poor" so the
poor can buy higher priced GAS!!!

ONLY in the convoluted mind of a Socialist!

This shows how inept Obama is. And how dangerous he is to our economy.
Higher fule prices don't just affect us when buying gas. It also jacks up the costs of goods. The cost of deisel fuel in particular is killing us. Having to pay twice as much for gas is bad enough but with food costs going up so much it is no wonder so many are on food stamps now.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

See this is Obama's convoluted IDEA!
A) stop drilling in USA raise gas prices
B)Stop Keystone raise gas prices
C) EPA shuts 9th largest gas refinery.. ... raise gas prices
D) Give Finland firm $500 million build electric car.
E) Tax Americans to pay for Finish car..
F) NOW Americans with NO gas at cheap prices HAVE to buy an electric car from Finland!
GREAT CONCEPT!!!

but WHERE do we get the cheap ELECTRICITY to run that 'great' Fin electric car......?

BO is trying to shut down the coal mines too......we get like HALF our electricity from COAL....

with no gas....no electricity......unless you pay 'necessary' exhoribitant skyrocketing prices.....guess we will all have to take BO's "bullet" trains......."bite the bullet" so to speak.....woohoo...

 

[Care4all]

During a June 10th, 2008, interview with CNBC, then-candidate Obama said this:

HARWOOD: As difficult as this is for consumers right now, is, in fact, high gas prices what we need to let the market work, a line incentive so that we do shift to alternative means of energy?

Sen. OBAMA: Well, I think that we have been slow to move in a better direction when it comes to energy usage. And the president, frankly, hasn't had an energy policy. And as a consequence, we've been consuming energy as if it's infinite. We now know that our demand is badly outstripping supply with China and India growing as rapidly as they are. So...

HARWOOD: So could these high prices help us?

Sen. OBAMA: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing. But if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.

Obama Wanted High Gas Prices...Gradually (2008 Election Campaign) - YouTube

SO.. Let me see if this makes sense..
Obama thinks if we "put more money into their pockets" that can make up the difference in increased gas prices.

SO WHEN will the price of fuel go down?

Seriously.. you supporters .. consider..
A) Obama WANTED and WANTS gas prices to go up!
WHY? Cause he thinks that will create alternate fuel sources.
In the mean time Obama steals money from the "rich" to give to the "poor" so the
poor can buy higher priced GAS!!!

ONLY in the convoluted mind of a Socialist!

You do realize this was said in June/July 2008 where we had the highest gasoline prices ever in our history? and why didn't you high light the line after the one you did? Where he notes it is bad for us when they rise so quickly....and that putting more money in the people's hands was about a stimulus that President bush was proposing to do?

what he said was correct...sudden and knee jerk high gasoline hikes does hurt the economy and us. Do you not agree with that?

 

[Jarhead]

Obama is right. The higher gas prices go the more open consumers will be to alternative energy and electric vehicles.

This is a market driven idea. I don't know why any "conservative" would be against it.

Nice spin. Doesn't change the facts of the op.

did you read the op? not the thread poster's comments, but what was said by obama? What's not true about it? What part about he preferred it was no taken in the leaps it has taken, cuz that does hurt the economy.... isn;t that true? I don't get what the complaint is regarding what Obama actually said? Can you explain it to me, without making something up about what Obama said, Grandpa?

you know, something to actually have a decent debate about?

The problem with what Obama said is that it is basic logic but doesnt at all address the issues with converting to altenrative energy.

It is easy to sugar coat something by mentioning alternatives that will make the issue a moot point.....

But to actually talk about how to implement it is a whole different story.

Like high speed rails. He mentioned them, said we need them; said they will help with our energy issues; and it will create many jobs...and he compared it to China and their high spoeed rail initiative.

What he did not mention was that China simply says "build them from point A to point B without concern for landmarks, national parks, eminent domain and ecolgical side affects....whereas here in the US we are talking about a near impossible project.

When was the last time you saw a "re-charge" station for the elctric cars?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

During a June 10th, 2008, interview with CNBC, then-candidate Obama said this:

HARWOOD: As difficult as this is for consumers right now, is, in fact, high gas prices what we need to let the market work, a line incentive so that we do shift to alternative means of energy?

Sen. OBAMA: Well, I think that we have been slow to move in a better direction when it comes to energy usage. And the president, frankly, hasn't had an energy policy. And as a consequence, we've been consuming energy as if it's infinite. We now know that our demand is badly outstripping supply with China and India growing as rapidly as they are. So...

HARWOOD: So could these high prices help us?

Sen. OBAMA: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing. But if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.

Obama Wanted High Gas Prices...Gradually (2008 Election Campaign) - YouTube

SO.. Let me see if this makes sense..
Obama thinks if we "put more money into their pockets" that can make up the difference in increased gas prices.

SO WHEN will the price of fuel go down?

Seriously.. you supporters .. consider..
A) Obama WANTED and WANTS gas prices to go up!
WHY? Cause he thinks that will create alternate fuel sources.
In the mean time Obama steals money from the "rich" to give to the "poor" so the
poor can buy higher priced GAS!!!

ONLY in the convoluted mind of a Socialist!

You do realize this was said in June/July 2008 where we had the highest gasoline prices ever in our history? and why didn't you high light the line after the one you did? Where he notes it is bad for us when they rise so quickly....and that putting more money in the people's hands was about a stimulus that President bush was proposing to do?

what he said was correct...sudden and knee jerk high gasoline hikes does hurt the economy and us. Do you not agree with that?

of course price hikes hurt....anybody would agree with that.....

however BO believes in 'Green Nirvana' and HATES big oil......this is what he COULD do.....but won't.....

he could announce TOMORROW (give them time to prep his teleprompter) that he is going to do everything in his power to encourage drilling in our country......like untying the red tape of regulations....this would probably lower the price of gas OVERNIGHT....

our country is awash in oil....but there are way too many "green" regs that prevent us from getting to it...

 

[Care4all]

Nice spin. Doesn't change the facts of the op.

did you read the op? not the thread poster's comments, but what was said by obama? What's not true about it? What part about he preferred it was no taken in the leaps it has taken, cuz that does hurt the economy.... isn;t that true? I don't get what the complaint is regarding what Obama actually said? Can you explain it to me, without making something up about what Obama said, Grandpa?

you know, something to actually have a decent debate about?

The problem with what Obama said is that it is basic logic but doesnt at all address the issues with converting to altenrative energy.

It is easy to sugar coat something by mentioning alternatives that will make the issue a moot point.....

But to actually talk about how to implement it is a whole different story.

Like high speed rails. He mentioned them, said we need them; said they will help with our energy issues; and it will create many jobs...and he compared it to China and their high spoeed rail initiative.

What he did not mention was that China simply says "build them from point A to point B without concern for landmarks, national parks, eminent domain and ecolgical side affects....whereas here in the US we are talking about a near impossible project.

When was the last time you saw a "re-charge" station for the elctric cars?

But if it were not for the Federal government, we WOULD NOT HAVE all the gas stations throughout the country....there is a place I suppose, for the government to come in and help.

And the main thing that was accomplished was higher CAFE standards, which is and will help a great deal with reducing our consumption.

Yes, we do have a more difficult time in the USA than China would to create a strong railroad system that works well for the people and to traffic produce, due to our independence and respect for property rights of the individual, but that is not truly a bad thing, is it?

there is absolutely no benefit for Obama to have gasoline prices so high in the United States during an election year as the op has indicated in several threads on the same topic now. there is an advantage for the gop to want them to stay high, and for the oil companies to want them to stay high....they want republicans, in office to support their every whim....

but truly, it's the speculation being done on the issue of what is going to happen with Iran that is driving oil higher and it is our own refineries shipping our gasoline here, off to foreign countries that is making it higher than it should be....they are reducing USA supply by shipping overseas, thus keeping USA supply lower and prices higher....more profitable for the refineries, but screwing us.

 

[DontBeStupid]

During a June 10th, 2008, interview with CNBC, then-candidate Obama said this:

HARWOOD: As difficult as this is for consumers right now, is, in fact, high gas prices what we need to let the market work, a line incentive so that we do shift to alternative means of energy?

Sen. OBAMA: Well, I think that we have been slow to move in a better direction when it comes to energy usage. And the president, frankly, hasn't had an energy policy. And as a consequence, we've been consuming energy as if it's infinite. We now know that our demand is badly outstripping supply with China and India growing as rapidly as they are. So...

HARWOOD: So could these high prices help us?

Sen. OBAMA: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing. But if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.

Obama Wanted High Gas Prices...Gradually (2008 Election Campaign) - YouTube

SO.. Let me see if this makes sense..
Obama thinks if we "put more money into their pockets" that can make up the difference in increased gas prices.

SO WHEN will the price of fuel go down?

Seriously.. you supporters .. consider..
A) Obama WANTED and WANTS gas prices to go up!
WHY? Cause he thinks that will create alternate fuel sources.
In the mean time Obama steals money from the "rich" to give to the "poor" so the
poor can buy higher priced GAS!!!

ONLY in the convoluted mind of a Socialist!

Obama is right. The higher gas prices go the more open consumers will be to alternative energy and electric vehicles.

This is a market driven idea. I don't know why any "conservative" would be against it.

Because it's dishonest. A market driven economy has to do with supply and demand. If you cut the supply on purpose so you can sell your shit and you have to lie about what you're doing to keep from losing your job then you're just a corrupt asshole. Everything Obama says Wall Street is.

And how exactly is Obama cutting the supply?

 

[healthmyths]

During a June 10th, 2008, interview with CNBC, then-candidate Obama said this:

HARWOOD: As difficult as this is for consumers right now, is, in fact, high gas prices what we need to let the market work, a line incentive so that we do shift to alternative means of energy?

Sen. OBAMA: Well, I think that we have been slow to move in a better direction when it comes to energy usage. And the president, frankly, hasn't had an energy policy. And as a consequence, we've been consuming energy as if it's infinite. We now know that our demand is badly outstripping supply with China and India growing as rapidly as they are. So...

HARWOOD: So could these high prices help us?

Sen. OBAMA: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing. But if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.

Obama Wanted High Gas Prices...Gradually (2008 Election Campaign) - YouTube

SO.. Let me see if this makes sense..
Obama thinks if we "put more money into their pockets" that can make up the difference in increased gas prices.

SO WHEN will the price of fuel go down?

Seriously.. you supporters .. consider..
A) Obama WANTED and WANTS gas prices to go up!
WHY? Cause he thinks that will create alternate fuel sources.
In the mean time Obama steals money from the "rich" to give to the "poor" so the
poor can buy higher priced GAS!!!

ONLY in the convoluted mind of a Socialist!

You do realize this was said in June/July 2008 where we had the highest gasoline prices ever in our history? and why didn't you high light the line after the one you did? Where he notes it is bad for us when they rise so quickly....and that putting more money in the people's hands was about a stimulus that President bush was proposing to do?

what he said was correct...sudden and knee jerk high gasoline hikes does hurt the economy and us. Do you not agree with that?

Hey... I am just copying what Obama said!
And his actions... How else would one perceive that Obama WANTS gas prices to go up!
1) After Giving Brazil $2 billion ..Obama tells them "we'll be your best customers"..
How does that help the USA get lower gas prices?
2) Oil leases fewest number in 25 years..
… While federal leasing numbers have gone up and down due to a range of economic and regulatory considerations through the years, at no time in the last 25 years has the number of new onshore federal oil and gas leases been lower than the number of new leases issued in 2009 and 2010 (BLM Oil & Gas Statistics, 2010)…
Obama administration sells fewest Western drilling leases in 25 years | JunkScience.com

3) EPA shuts down Shell's $4 billion investment..
EPA FORCES SHELL TO ABANDON AFTER SPENDING $4 BILLION

The decision comes following a ruling by the EPA’s Environmental Appeals Board to withhold critical air permits.
Shell has spent five years and nearly $4 billion dollars on plans to explore for oil in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas.
The leases alone cost $2.2 billion.
The closest village to where Shell proposed to drill is Kaktovik, Alaska. It is one of the most remote places in the United States. According to the latest census, the population is 245 and nearly all of the residents are Alaska natives.
The village, which is 1 square mile, sits right along the shores of the Beaufort Sea, 70 miles away from the proposed off-shore drill site.
EPA Rules Force Shell to Abandon Oil Drilling Plans | Vision to America

AGAIN ACTIONS by Obama's EPA certainly DOESN'T INCREASE domestic supply.

I mean sir... these ARE NOT Actions that will DECREASE oil supply but will INCREASE costs .. $4 billion alone by SHELL will be passed on to us the consumers!
AND THAT HELPS US HOW????

 

[ABikerSailor]

Presidents do not decide what the cost of gasoline will be.

Exactly!....remember how that was what righties said to defend Bush when gas jumped up to $4 for him?....I said it wasn't Bush's fault then, and it isn't Obama's fault now.

Actually, the rise in gas prices is gonna be driven by Iran and the Straits of Hormuz more than anything else.