Obama has increased government spending less than any president in at least a generation.

[Paperman299]

FACT: obama has in 6 years, DOUBLED A DEBT which took 43 preceding Presidents, 235 years to build.

WHAT THE FUCK???.

Yes... THATThe Fuck.

FACT: obama has in 6 years, DOUBLED A DEBT which took 43 preceding Presidents, 235 years to build.

You're concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Fact: Reagan in 8 years TRIPLED A DEBT which took 39 preceding Presidents 200 years to build!!!

ROFLMNAO!

No... that's not anywhere remotely close to a fact... and even it if it were, Reagan increased the deficit spending from 1981to 89 by 94%, obama increased DEFICIT SPENDING by 1,000% (which is an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE) Reagan increased the federal debt by 188%... from 995 Billion to 2.7 Trillion. While obama increased Federal Debt from 9.7 trillion to 18.1 trillion an increase in only 6 years of GREATER THEN EVERY PRESIDENT WHICH PRECEDED HIM OVER THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES... Which includes the expenses of a Civil War, TWO WORLD WARS and the US GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR, which cost the US a Trillion dollars in Losses the the 2001 GDP as a result of an attack that lasted just TWO HOURS.

That's literally more money than the United States SPENT TO FIGHT EVERY WAR SINCE WW1 THROUGH TO DATE.

So your boy has the unenviable dishonor of PISSING AWAY MORE US TAX PAYER MONEY THAN ANYONE HAS EVER PISSED AWAY IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE!

"Not even close to a fact?" Then why, in the very next sentence, do you concede that Reagan increased the debt by 188%? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I said. And what it means is that, in Reagan's time, he increased the debt more than every president before him.

Do you get the point? These histrionics about "increasing the debt before every previous president combined" are meaningless, because it's happened before. It happened under Wilson, it happened under Roosevelt, it happened under Reagan (the only one who wasn't a wartime president), IT HAPPENED UNDER BUSH, and now, it has happened again.

And by the way, deficit spending is actually at 36% of what it was when Obama first took office. Where you are getting this ludicrous 1,000% number I have no idea, but remove that "source" from your bookmarks. It's embarrassing for both of us when I have to argue that Obama hasn't increased spending a bazillion percent, or that he isn't melting the polar ice caps with satellites, or whatever nonsense you're being fed by thosedadgumcommunists.wordpress.com

 

[billyerock1991]

WHAT THE FUCK???.

Yes... THATThe Fuck.

FACT: obama has in 6 years, DOUBLED A DEBT which took 43 preceding Presidents, 235 years to build.

You're concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Fact: Reagan in 8 years TRIPLED A DEBT which took 39 preceding Presidents 200 years to build!!!

ROFLMNAO!

No... that's not anywhere remotely close to a fact... and even it if it were, Reagan increased the deficit spending from 1981to 89 by 94%, obama increased DEFICIT SPENDING by 1,000% (which is an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE) Reagan increased the federal debt by 188%... from 995 Billion to 2.7 Trillion. While obama increased Federal Debt from 9.7 trillion to 18.1 trillion an increase in only 6 years of GREATER THEN EVERY PRESIDENT WHICH PRECEDED HIM OVER THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES... Which includes the expenses of a Civil War, TWO WORLD WARS and the US GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR, which cost the US a Trillion dollars in Losses the the 2001 GDP as a result of an attack that lasted just TWO HOURS.

That's literally more money than the United States SPENT TO FIGHT EVERY WAR SINCE WW1 THROUGH TO DATE.

So your boy has the unenviable dishonor of PISSING AWAY MORE US TAX PAYER MONEY THAN ANYONE HAS EVER PISSED AWAY IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE!

do you always look this uninformed ??? you need to stop going to right wing nut job sites ... please show us the so-called 1000% ... now thats really funny

Its is not a debatable point.

As was pointed out above:

Reagan increased the deficit spending from 1981to 89 by 94%, obama increased DEFICIT SPENDING by 1,000% (which is an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE).

Reagan increased the federal debt by 188%... from 995 Billion to 2.7 Trillion.

While obama increased Federal Debt from 9.7 trillion to 18.1 trillion an increase in only 6 years of GREATER THEN EVERY PRESIDENT WHICH PRECEDED HIM OVER THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES...

Which includes the expenses of a Civil War, TWO WORLD WARS and the US GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR, which cost the US a Trillion dollars in Losses the the 2001 GDP as a result of an attack that lasted just TWO HOURS.

That's literally more money than the United States SPENT TO FIGHT EVERY WAR SINCE WW1 THROUGH TO DATE and that is with the cost of those wars translated into 2011 dollars.

So your boy has the unenviable dishonor of PISSING AWAY MORE US TAX PAYER MONEY THAN ANYONE HAS EVER PISSED AWAY IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE!

heres where your ability to grasp numbers just like the rest of these republicans here you said he started with 9.7 trillion dollars to 18 trillions dollars... this is so typical of republicans inability to state the facts...

in no way did Obama cause the country to double by anything he has done... all the debt came from the bush administration and you know it ... this is your pathetic way of trying to save face for the bad governing by republicans ... republicans don't take responsibility for their mistakes that's well known ... you keep trying here ... so you call us socialist or what ever communist name you can come up with to make you feel better about republican incompetence ...

 

[billyerock1991]

Fact: Reagan in 8 years TRIPLED A DEBT which took 39 preceding Presidents 200 years to build!!!

ROFLMNAO!

No... that's not anywhere remotely close to a fact... and even it if it were, Reagan increased the deficit spending from 1981to 89 by 94%, obama increased DEFICIT SPENDING by 1,000% (which is an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE) Reagan increased the federal debt by 188%... from 995 Billion to 2.7 Trillion. While obama increased Federal Debt from 9.7 trillion to 18.1 trillion an increase in only 6 years of GREATER THEN EVERY PRESIDENT WHICH PRECEDED HIM OVER THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES... Which includes the expenses of a Civil War, TWO WORLD WARS and the US GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR, which cost the US a Trillion dollars in Losses the the 2001 GDP as a result of an attack that lasted just TWO HOURS.

That's literally more money than the United States SPENT TO FIGHT EVERY WAR SINCE WW1 THROUGH TO DATE.

So your boy has the unenviable dishonor of PISSING AWAY MORE US TAX PAYER MONEY THAN ANYONE HAS EVER PISSED AWAY IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE!

I wonder on what? We funded our military at this rate before him and I can only think of healthcare. Is he secretly giving the rest of the world a trillion dollars per year?

The last I heard, there is no means to account for the spending. It's like the money was simply sucked into space. My guess is that the money is funding Democrat Donors and whatever vehicles can be used to launder it for advancing death and destruction, OKA: Socialism.

I wouldn't worry too much about that... as the die is cast and the United States is barreling toward it's end. And where it comes, there will be a reckoning. obama will flee to wherever. And there's not a dam' thing that a moral people can do to stop him. We have a system, it has been compromised, but the consequences of the actions of the addled hordes must come to pass, before justice can be set upon them.

When that comes, we; The Americans, will set upon them like white on rice... and we will send the Seals to bring obama's sorry ass back from whatever Muslim shithole he infects... in as many pieces as is practical.

And justice will be served...

From 'it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off the socialist government, and build a new nation with a new government, to provide new guards for our future security.'

letrs see the bridge to nowhere My guess is that the money is funding republican Donors and whatever vehicles can be used to launder it for advancing death and destruction, towards fascism

Of course, your problem is that your record, of which this thread is part and parcel, you've the intellectual means of a carrot and the veracity of Al Sharpton, so... you're guesses are irrelevant to reasonable people.

I mean you just stated that obama spent 9 trillion dollars to promote the GOP which you then labeled as a leftist concern.

You see scamp, National Socialism, is socialism and socialism is a decidedly leftist organism; and as such, it is a function of evil, like every other aspect of the Ideological Left.

yep nut case is your way of life

 

[billyerock1991]

Keys, is it painful to be as stupid as you are? Are you really only 16?

You were asked 10 times yesterday to post up the spending bills attributed to Obama and his 10 trillion dollar deficit.
You couldn't do it. None of you assholes can do that. Why?

Cause they are not there you stupid fuck. Most of Obama's debt can be attributed to the spending commitments made by Bush. You know, the commitments he made with no provision to pay for them.

Why are you so fucking stupid that you can't figure that out?

I know he's a republicans and republican and thinking is something they can't do

 

[billyerock1991]

FACT: obama has in 6 years, DOUBLED A DEBT which took 43 preceding Presidents, 235 years to build.

WHAT THE FUCK???.

Yes... THATThe Fuck.

FACT: obama has in 6 years, DOUBLED A DEBT which took 43 preceding Presidents, 235 years to build.

You're concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Fact: Reagan in 8 years TRIPLED A DEBT which took 39 preceding Presidents 200 years to build!!!

ROFLMNAO!

No... that's not anywhere remotely close to a fact... and even it if it were, Reagan increased the deficit spending from 1981to 89 by 94%, obama increased DEFICIT SPENDING by 1,000% (which is an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE) Reagan increased the federal debt by 188%... from 995 Billion to 2.7 Trillion. While obama increased Federal Debt from 9.7 trillion to 18.1 trillion an increase in only 6 years of GREATER THEN EVERY PRESIDENT WHICH PRECEDED HIM OVER THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES... Which includes the expenses of a Civil War, TWO WORLD WARS and the US GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR, which cost the US a Trillion dollars in Losses the the 2001 GDP as a result of an attack that lasted just TWO HOURS.

That's literally more money than the United States SPENT TO FIGHT EVERY WAR SINCE WW1 THROUGH TO DATE.

So your boy has the unenviable dishonor of PISSING AWAY MORE US TAX PAYER MONEY THAN ANYONE HAS EVER PISSED AWAY IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE!

"Not even close to a fact?" Then why, in the very next sentence, do you concede that Reagan increased the debt by 188%? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I said. And what it means is that, in Reagan's time, he increased the debt more than every president before him.

Do you get the point? These histrionics about "increasing the debt before every previous president combined" are meaningless, because it's happened before. It happened under Wilson, it happened under Roosevelt, it happened under Reagan (the only one who wasn't a wartime president), IT HAPPENED UNDER BUSH, and now, it has happened again.

And by the way, deficit spending is actually at 36% of what it was when Obama first took office. Where you are getting this ludicrous 1,000% number I have no idea, but remove that "source" from your bookmarks. It's embarrassing for both of us when I have to argue that Obama hasn't increased spending a bazillion percent, or that he isn't melting the polar ice caps with satellites, or whatever nonsense you're being fed by thosedadgumcommunists.wordpress.com

nailed it ...

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Not even close to a fact?

Then why, in the very next sentence, do you concede that Reagan increased the debt by 188%? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I said.

So you feel that 300% and 188% are 'exactly the same'?

ROFLMNAO!

Go figure...

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

... in no way did Obama cause the country to double by anything he has done... all the debt came from the bush administration

If I were a Federal Prosecutor, I would take that one statement from that jackass, and use it to have them committed, locked down and secured from ever being able to utter another word in public.

At some point this nonsense has got to stop. There is no right to profess falsity. PERIOD.

But I don't see any chance that any prosecutor is going to do so... So we'll just have to let nature take its course and deal with it once "OPEN SEASON" is declared on this lunatics.

 

[Paperman299]

Not even close to a fact?

Then why, in the very next sentence, do you concede that Reagan increased the debt by 188%? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I said.

So you feel that 300% and 188% are 'exactly the same'?

ROFLMNAO!

Go figure...

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Oh my God.

Look, if you have $100, and you increase that by 50%, you now have $150. If you increase that $100 by 100%, you now have $200. How can you double something when you increased it by 100%? Because you have added once again its own value.

Likewise, if you increase something by 200%, you have actually tripled that value. Something that has been increased by 200% is now 300% of what it used to be, because that 200% is additional to its original value.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Not even close to a fact?

Then why, in the very next sentence, do you concede that Reagan increased the debt by 188%? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I said.

So you feel that 300% and 188% are 'exactly the same'?

ROFLMNAO!

Go figure...

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Oh my God.

Look, if you have $100, and you increase that by 50%...

I don't think we're going to take a math lesson from someone who 'feels' that 188% and 300% are "exactly the same".

And FTR: There will also be no lessons of any kind, tolerated from relativists who can't get their "feelings' around 'cause and effect'.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Again folks, the obama cult is STILL setting responsibility onto a guy who has not had an iota of influence over the US government for over SIX YEARS. The man has barely said a public WORD and did not utter such until LAST YEAR and NOT ONE of those words had ANY RELEVANCE to public policy.

ROFLMNAO!

These sub-creatures, are literally denying: reality.

Now friends... where you have a group of people who are incapable of so much as recognizing what has happened in their very presence... there is no simply means to live with them.

And where there is no means to live with a group, historically, that circumstance has resulted in war.

If someone has an alternative they'd like to suggest, I would sure love to hear it.

 

[oreo]

Republican campaign strategists may lie, but the numbers don’t. Government spending, when adjusted for inflation, has increased during his administration (to date) by 1.4%. Under George W. Bush, the increases were 7.3% (first term) and 8.1% (second term). Bill Clinton, in his two terms, comes in at 3.2% and 3.9%. George H. W. Bush increased government spending by 5.4%, while Ronald Reagan added 8.7% and 4.9% in his two terms.

Not only does Obama turn out to be the most thrifty president in recent memory, but the evidence shows that Republican administrations consistently increased government spending significantly more than any Democratic administration. Go figure.

What everyone seems to forget is that Social Security and Medicare make up about 40% of the yearly budget. Today--the largest generation in this nations history (baby boomers) are retiring into these funds at 10K per day every day of the week, and this rate will last for another 15 years.

This gives us another 87 trillion in unfunded liabilities on top of the 18 trillion we're already at. NO President is going to avoid these numbers. Social Security and Medicare were promised to the elderly in this country by the Federal Government, taking a portion out of their wages and their employer contributions to pay for it.

The below chart is what 1 trillion dollars looks like. These are $100.00 bills stacked together on pallets. 18 of these make for current debt, then add on another 87 of these to get a good look at the on coming train wreck.

As far as Obama being "thrifty"--LOL. How many Presidents do you remember asking for "free" college educations?

 

[Paperman299]

Not even close to a fact?

Then why, in the very next sentence, do you concede that Reagan increased the debt by 188%? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I said.

So you feel that 300% and 188% are 'exactly the same'?

ROFLMNAO!

Go figure...

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Oh my God.

Look, if you have $100, and you increase that by 50%...

I don't think we're going to take a math lesson from someone who 'feels' that 188% and 300% are "exactly the same".

And FTR: There will also be no lessons of any kind, tolerated from relativists who can't get their "feelings' around 'cause and effect'.

This is not "feelings." This is real math. How can you be so opinionated on the debt and the deficit and not know how percentages work? Look:

An increase of 100% in a quantity means that the final amount is 200%of the initial amount (100% of initial + 100% of increase = 200% of initial); in other words, the quantity has doubled. An increase of 800%means the final amount is 9 times the original (100% + 800% = 900% = 9 times as large).

This is from the percentage page on Wikipedia.

Find the percent of increase from 5 to 10.

Amount of increase is 10 − 5 = 5

Original amount is 5

5 / 5 = 1

multiply 1 by one hundred to get the answer as a percent

1 × 100 = 100, so the answer is 100%.

This is from Percent of increase. If you increase something by 200%, it is now 300% of what it was. The original value is not represented in the first percentage, but it is in the second. Do you see?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Republican campaign strategists may lie, but the numbers don’t. Government spending, when adjusted for inflation, has increased during his administration (to date) by 1.4%. Under George W. Bush, the increases were 7.3% (first term) and 8.1% (second term). Bill Clinton, in his two terms, comes in at 3.2% and 3.9%. George H. W. Bush increased government spending by 5.4%, while Ronald Reagan added 8.7% and 4.9% in his two terms.

Not only does Obama turn out to be the most thrifty president in recent memory, but the evidence shows that Republican administrations consistently increased government spending significantly more than any Democratic administration. Go figure.

What everyone seems to forget is that Social Security and Medicare make up about 40% of the yearly budget. Today--the largest generation in this nations history (baby boomers) are retiring into these funds at 10K per day every day of the week, and this rate will last for another 15 years.

This gives us another 87 trillion in unfunded liabilities on top of the 18 trillion we're already at. NO President is going to avoid these numbers. Social Security and Medicare were promised to the elderly in this country by the Federal Government, taking a portion out of their wages and their employer contributions to pay for it.

The below chart is what 1 trillion dollars looks like. These are $100.00 bills stacked together on pallets. 18 of these make for current debt, then add on another 87 of these to get a good look at the on coming train wreck.

SS and Medicare now takes closer to 60%.

Which is just shy of the magic 70% where Ponzi Schemes disintegrate.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Not even close to a fact?

Then why, in the very next sentence, do you concede that Reagan increased the debt by 188%? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I said.

So you feel that 300% and 188% are 'exactly the same'?

ROFLMNAO!

Go figure...

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Oh my God.

Look, if you have $100, and you increase that by 50%...

I don't think we're going to take a math lesson from someone who 'feels' that 188% and 300% are "exactly the same".

And FTR: There will also be no lessons of any kind, tolerated from relativists who can't get their "feelings' around 'cause and effect'.

This is not "feelings." This is real math. How can you be so opinionated on the debt and the deficit and not know how percentages work? Look:

An increase of 100% in a quantity means that the final amount is 200%of the initial amount (100% of initial + 100% of increase = 200% of initial); in other words, the quantity has doubled. An increase of 800%means the final amount is 9 times the original (100% + 800% = 900% = 9 times as large).

This is from the percentage page on Wikipedia.

Find the percent of increase from 5 to 10.

Amount of increase is 10 − 5 = 5

Original amount is 5

5 / 5 = 1

multiply 1 by one hundred to get the answer as a percent

1 × 100 = 100, so the answer is 100%.

This is from Percent of increase. If you increase something by 200%, it is now 300% of what it was. The original value is not represented in the first percentage, but it is in the second. Do you see?

ROFLMNAO! Good Lord...

Class, no matter how one adds it, 188% is NOT 'Exactly the same' as 300%.

You can do your own math or accept my assurance. But no matter which way ya go, it is never going to add up to obama being PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for spending more money in deficit in 6 years than every president in the HISTORY of the Unites States spent. Not for the Cult. They're wholly detached from any sense of reality.

obama spent more in deficit in six YEARS than the US spent fighting every war we've fought from WW1 to THE PRESENT! And that is in 2011 dollars.

 

[billyerock1991]

Republican campaign strategists may lie, but the numbers don’t. Government spending, when adjusted for inflation, has increased during his administration (to date) by 1.4%. Under George W. Bush, the increases were 7.3% (first term) and 8.1% (second term). Bill Clinton, in his two terms, comes in at 3.2% and 3.9%. George H. W. Bush increased government spending by 5.4%, while Ronald Reagan added 8.7% and 4.9% in his two terms.

Not only does Obama turn out to be the most thrifty president in recent memory, but the evidence shows that Republican administrations consistently increased government spending significantly more than any Democratic administration. Go figure.

What everyone seems to forget is that Social Security and Medicare make up about 40% of the yearly budget. Today--the largest generation in this nations history (baby boomers) are retiring into these funds at 10K per day every day of the week, and this rate will last for another 15 years.

This gives us another 87 trillion in unfunded liabilities on top of the 18 trillion we're already at. NO President is going to avoid these numbers. Social Security and Medicare were promised to the elderly in this country by the Federal Government, taking a portion out of their wages and their employer contributions to pay for it.

The below chart is what 1 trillion dollars looks like. These are $100.00 bills stacked together on pallets. 18 of these make for current debt, then add on another 87 of these to get a good look at the on coming train wreck.

SS and Medicare now takes closer to 60%.

Which is just shy of the magic 70% where Ponzi Schemes disintegrate.

no it doesn't make up any part of the budget at all ...where ever you get this Bull Shit is beyond me ... you as a citizen pay for your social security out of your check everytime you get paid .... your employer pays for it too not the government ... you pay for medicare each time you are paid, not the government ... then when you retire you pay a low cost for health care not the government ... where every you get this the national budget pays 40% for social security and medicare is nuts just plain nuts ...so stop your lying

 

[billyerock1991]

Then why, in the very next sentence, do you concede that Reagan increased the debt by 188%? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I said.

So you feel that 300% and 188% are 'exactly the same'?

ROFLMNAO!

Go figure...

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Oh my God.

Look, if you have $100, and you increase that by 50%...

I don't think we're going to take a math lesson from someone who 'feels' that 188% and 300% are "exactly the same".

And FTR: There will also be no lessons of any kind, tolerated from relativists who can't get their "feelings' around 'cause and effect'.

This is not "feelings." This is real math. How can you be so opinionated on the debt and the deficit and not know how percentages work? Look:

An increase of 100% in a quantity means that the final amount is 200%of the initial amount (100% of initial + 100% of increase = 200% of initial); in other words, the quantity has doubled. An increase of 800%means the final amount is 9 times the original (100% + 800% = 900% = 9 times as large).

This is from the percentage page on Wikipedia.

Find the percent of increase from 5 to 10.

Amount of increase is 10 − 5 = 5

Original amount is 5

5 / 5 = 1

multiply 1 by one hundred to get the answer as a percent

1 × 100 = 100, so the answer is 100%.

This is from Percent of increase. If you increase something by 200%, it is now 300% of what it was. The original value is not represented in the first percentage, but it is in the second. Do you see?

ROFLMNAO! Good Lord...

Class, no matter how one adds it, 188% is NOT 'Exactly the same' as 300%.

You can do your own math or accept my assurance. But no matter which way ya go, it is never going to add up to obama being PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for spending more money in deficit in 6 years than every president in the HISTORY of the Unites States spent. Not for the Cult. They're wholly detached from any sense of reality.

obama spent more in deficit in six YEARS than the US spent fighting every war we've fought from WW1 to THE PRESENT! And that is in 2011 dollars.

so what you're saying is the CBO of this country doesn't know how to do math ... got it... Idiot !!!

 

[billyerock1991]

... in no way did Obama cause the country to double by anything he has done... all the debt came from the bush administration

If I were a Federal Prosecutor, I would take that one statement from that jackass, and use it to have them committed, locked down and secured from ever being able to utter another word in public.

At some point this nonsense has got to stop. There is no right to profess falsity. PERIOD.

But I don't see any chance that any prosecutor is going to do so... So we'll just have to let nature take its course and deal with it once "OPEN SEASON" is declared on this lunatics.

denial is your best argument ... we asked you to show us one bill that obama signed into law that caused this huge debt ... you couldn't do it .... all you did to try and pass off was try a budget bill then say see in JANUARY 2014 HE SIGN A BUDGET BILL FOR 1.1 TRILLION DOLLARS THEN MADE MADE A FIRST CLASS FOOL OF YOURSELF AFTER TRYING THAT ONE ....9 TRILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT IN ONE BUDGET BILL RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGT... PRICELESS ...THEN YOU TRY TO SAY THAT HE RAN IT UP A 1000% WITHOUT ONE CREDIBLE FACT TO SHOW HOW THIS BILL RAN UP THE DEBT ... ITS THE DAMN BUDGET BILL .THAT EVERY PRESIDENT SIGN EVER YEAR AND YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE ITS 9 TRILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT WAS BY THIS ONE, 1.1 TRILLION DOLLAR BUDGET BILLL ... PRICELESS AGAIN !!! MY FELLOW POSTERS HERE HAVE SHOWN YOU BILL AFTER BILL THAT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION SIGHED INTO LAW WITHOUT ANY FUNDING FOR THEM ... THEN WHEN OBAMA TOOK OFFICE ALL THE DEBT THAT BUSH CAUSE WENT TO OBAMA AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY OBAMA CAUSED IT ??? BECAUSE ITS ON HIS WATCH !!! RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGT !!!!! WE GET IT... DENIAL IS YOUR BEST ARGUMENT ...THE FACT THAT OBAMA SPENT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY OVER THE NATIONAL BUDGET THEN ANY PRESIDENT INFURIATES YOU ... THEN YOU HAVE TO COME HERE AND TRY AND SAVE FACE FOR REPUBLICANS SCREWING UP THIS COUNTRIES NATIONAL DEBT AND CLAIM OBAMA CAUSED IT ... THATS THE REPUBLICAN WAY

 

[billyerock1991]

Again folks, the obama cult is STILL setting responsibility onto a guy who has not had an iota of influence over the US government for over SIX YEARS. The man has barely said a public WORD and did not utter such until LAST YEAR and NOT ONE of those words had ANY RELEVANCE to public policy.

ROFLMNAO!

These sub-creatures, are literally denying: reality.

Now friends... where you have a group of people who are incapable of so much as recognizing what has happened in their very presence... there is no simply means to live with them.

And where there is no means to live with a group, historically, that circumstance has resulted in war.

If someone has an alternative they'd like to suggest, I would sure love to hear it.

SIGN OF LOSING A DEBATE ...WHEN THEY CAN'T GIVE YOU A SOURCE FOR THEIR RANTS AND THAT'S WHAT THIS GUY IS DOING, RANTING ...THEY RESORT TO THEIR BEST PERSONAL ATTACKS ... WHEN WILL LOSERS LIKE THIS ONE EVER LEARN ... IF YOU WANT TO WIN A DEBT DO IT WITH FACTS AND SOURCES ...WHICH YOU HAVEN'T DONE AT ALL ALL ...

 

[RKMBrown]

Then why, in the very next sentence, do you concede that Reagan increased the debt by 188%? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I said.

So you feel that 300% and 188% are 'exactly the same'?

ROFLMNAO!

Go figure...

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Oh my God.

Look, if you have $100, and you increase that by 50%...

I don't think we're going to take a math lesson from someone who 'feels' that 188% and 300% are "exactly the same".

And FTR: There will also be no lessons of any kind, tolerated from relativists who can't get their "feelings' around 'cause and effect'.

This is not "feelings." This is real math. How can you be so opinionated on the debt and the deficit and not know how percentages work? Look:

An increase of 100% in a quantity means that the final amount is 200%of the initial amount (100% of initial + 100% of increase = 200% of initial); in other words, the quantity has doubled. An increase of 800%means the final amount is 9 times the original (100% + 800% = 900% = 9 times as large).

This is from the percentage page on Wikipedia.

Find the percent of increase from 5 to 10.

Amount of increase is 10 − 5 = 5

Original amount is 5

5 / 5 = 1

multiply 1 by one hundred to get the answer as a percent

1 × 100 = 100, so the answer is 100%.

This is from Percent of increase. If you increase something by 200%, it is now 300% of what it was. The original value is not represented in the first percentage, but it is in the second. Do you see?

ROFLMNAO! Good Lord...

Class, no matter how one adds it, 188% is NOT 'Exactly the same' as 300%.

You can do your own math or accept my assurance. But no matter which way ya go, it is never going to add up to obama being PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for spending more money in deficit in 6 years than every president in the HISTORY of the Unites States spent. Not for the Cult. They're wholly detached from any sense of reality.

obama spent more in deficit in six YEARS than the US spent fighting every war we've fought from WW1 to THE PRESENT! And that is in 2011 dollars.

You're wrong.

If something was 100 and now is 200... then one can say it is now 100% bigger or you can say it was 50% smaller. If it took 10 years for that thing to go from 100 to 200 and it went by even increments of 10... then one can say the percent of increase reduced each year... or you could say the amount of increase was constant... If it took 1 year for that thing to go from 100 to 200 then was flat you could say ignore that fact and take credit for the increase 9 years in a row. If the thing went to 400 then back down to 200 you could still say it's 100% bigger than it was by ignoring the fact that's it's 50% lower than it's high, or you could say it got to 400% higher under the first guy then only 200% higher under the second guy thus you lost 200%.. but that would be funny math. Further if it went up by 10 one year then 30 the next year you could say that the increase in the second year was 300% bigger.

So using funny math... a 188% decrease can also be a 300% increase or vice verse... it really just depends on what frame(s) of reference you are using to calculate these percentages.

Think of it as "zooming" in on a graph to make a 1 degree or percent increase take up half the graph to make it look like the world is coming to an end.

 

[billyerock1991]

Republican campaign strategists may lie, but the numbers don’t. Government spending, when adjusted for inflation, has increased during his administration (to date) by 1.4%. Under George W. Bush, the increases were 7.3% (first term) and 8.1% (second term). Bill Clinton, in his two terms, comes in at 3.2% and 3.9%. George H. W. Bush increased government spending by 5.4%, while Ronald Reagan added 8.7% and 4.9% in his two terms.

Not only does Obama turn out to be the most thrifty president in recent memory, but the evidence shows that Republican administrations consistently increased government spending significantly more than any Democratic administration. Go figure.

What everyone seems to forget is that Social Security and Medicare make up about 40% of the yearly budget. Today--the largest generation in this nations history (baby boomers) are retiring into these funds at 10K per day every day of the week, and this rate will last for another 15 years.

This gives us another 87 trillion in unfunded liabilities on top of the 18 trillion we're already at. NO President is going to avoid these numbers. Social Security and Medicare were promised to the elderly in this country by the Federal Government, taking a portion out of their wages and their employer contributions to pay for it.

The below chart is what 1 trillion dollars looks like. These are $100.00 bills stacked together on pallets. 18 of these make for current debt, then add on another 87 of these to get a good look at the on coming train wreck.

SS and Medicare now takes closer to 60%.

Which is just shy of the magic 70% where Ponzi Schemes disintegrate.

NO IT DOESN'T ... IT DOESN'T TAKE ONE DOLLAR OF TAXPAYERS MONEY