Obama has a big problem

[Taomon]

Cry me a river.

Asians had/have the same problems but do you see them whining and acting the victim?
No, they rise above it.

Uncle Jeremiah is the epitome of black victimhood. If his alliance is to Africa as his church claims then let him move his sorry arse to Africa and damn America from over there.

So you do not believe in freedom of speech. What a shock.

 

[Taomon]

For those of you who "damn America," are you saying that all white people do, all day long, is sit around and try to think up ways to put the black folk down? This makes me laugh...it sounds like you've spent too much time thinking up conspiracy theories. Sure , 150 years ago, that may be the case. But the last time I checked the law and the constitution, everyone is treated equally. The era of black suppression is over my friends and whoever fails to see it is simply hard-head and closed-minded. Blacks are allowed to do the same things that any other race is allowed to do, their allowed to have the same jobs, get the same pay, their not segregated...their equal, which is what was asked for during the Civil Rights Movement. The real racists are the once who preach like Pastor Wright and think that because the majority of black youth do not take it upon themselves to go to college and get good jobs that it's all the white people's fault.(by the way, I have seen black friends of mine go to college and end the cycle of poverty for their families), Did you know there is equally or more government assistance available to minorities (more exclusively African-Americans) to attend college? Sure the FAFSA says they don't discriminate against race or gender, but their pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. So it's all white peoples fault that there's a large number of poor black Americans. None of us get any special treatment....so what are you all talking about. I don't ever remember a time in my life where I've even thought to "suppress" a black person.
Why should any race be granted "empowerment" that's unequal to me. I don't see any other race getting "empowerment" from anyone. There are just as many blacks in the country that are racists against whites.

What happens is, the majority of the white kids are taught, "Treat everyone equal and don't judge them by their skin color." I'm from south Texas and I was taught that. But a lot of little black kids are taught by their parents, that the whites are always trying to "stomp" on them, and that the whites are causing all the problems for the blacks. I'm not racist, I've got several black and hispanic friends, but I think you America haters need to take a good long look in the mirror before you start casting stones.

The Fact is, the law states that we're equal, and that's how people are treated. I don't see blacks being denied entry into stores anymore; never have in my lifetime. I see a black-hispanic-white-hispanic-white-black line of kids at the water fountain. There is no large evil plan by the whites to keep blacks at the lower class. Shame on you for assuming this. You can take all of your racists books and cram them.

By the way, if I had wanted to vote for Obama, his firm association with his racist goon would have changed my vote.

I am white and I have many black, gay, asian, hispanic and poor friends.

Believe me, bigotry is alive and well in America. If you are not a woman, black, asian, hispanic, gay, or poor...you do not understand.

 

[Taomon]

Heh heh, sorry, I let my emotions get away with me on this one. But, if someone on this post were to be an "America Hater", then the post was for you. This was the post that got me all ryled up.



--While blacks did not create these things, blacks are no longer experiencing these things in mass. All races experience this to some degree. Old news is old news. Your opinion sounds a little biased, no matter what race you are.

How white of you to say. I understand why you are offended. It is the same reason why whites get offended when I denounce Thanksgiving (due to the holocaust against the Native American Indians by greedy whites).

You cannot face the truth so you attack the messenger and belittle the message.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Also, how much influence has Wright exerted on Obama's domestic and foreign policy views?

 

[Taomon]

Ok let's analyze the subject then, pastor makes racial inflammatory comments for 20 years, Obama states he never heard him make these statements. Even though back in April 2007 they both acknowledge that Obama will probably have to distance himself from Wright. Seems as though Obama knew he was a racist and stayed in the church.

And your point is? How many white leaders listen to bigoted religious leaders?

There are the Bush twins for one. Oh yeah, Reagan.

 

[jreeves]

By changing our foreign and domestic policies to be more democratic. To ackowledge and accept the importance of all citizens in America and fellow citizens of other countries who are affected by our policies and those of our trans-national corporations.

What we need is a paradigm change.

America is very classist, racist, and materialistic.

That won't change a person who feels white people owe him something. He is under the impression that white people are to blame for everything that is wrong in our country. But you think changing domestic and foreign policy somehow will change his racism.

No, if what your saying is that we should be a socialist nation I disagree with you vehemently. We should be a mixed market, not socialist. When 56% of the national budget is spent on social programs we are teetering on the edge of full blown socialism. Especially considering the future projections for social entitlements.
I disagree with you, we aren't a racist society as a whole. A defeatist position is to assume you can't suceed due to the 'man'.

 

[Annie]

Taoman, you are reminding me of the old Shakespeare quote, 'The first thing we do, let's kill all the white guys'.

 

[Taomon]

That won't change a person who feels white people owe him something. He is under the impression that white people are to blame for everything that is wrong in our country. But you think changing domestic and foreign policy somehow will change his racism.

No, if what your saying is that we should be a socialist nation I disagree with you vehemently. We should be a mixed market, not socialist. When 56% of the national budget is spent on social programs we are teetering on the edge of full blown socialism. Especially considering the future projections for social entitlements.
I disagree with you, we aren't a racist society as a whole. A defeatist position is to assume you can't suceed due to the 'man'.

Did I say socialist? You are fucking dumb. You just automatically state socialism and then vehemently disagree and go on a tirade.

Blacks feel disenfranchised. Bigotry is still rampant in this country. When the slaves were freed, blacks were elevated to second class citizens. In some places, they were not even that.

But they have to rise above it because you claim that they feel we owe them something.

Actually, we do owe blacks something. We owe them solidarity. And that is lacking in all of our foreign & domestic policies.

I am all for making money and companies getting rich. I don't believe that it can only be achieved by stepping on the necks of the poor.

Companies should have a certain level of social responsibility. We know hand-outs will not solve anything. What we need is education, equality and a paradigm change.

Why would that be wrong?

 

[Taomon]

Taoman, you are reminding me of the old Shakespeare quote, 'The first thing we do, let's kill all the white guys'.

Um, no. That would be inaccurate.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

So you do not believe in freedom of speech. What a shock.

How's that doofus? Because I said since Uncle Jeremiah and his church claim alliance to Africa, he should take his sorry arse to Africa and damn America from there?

That's just me exercising MY right to free speech…..learn the difference.

I'll also add that should Obama end the war, he's already got that $200 billion earmarked for Africa….er, I mean world poverty…

(I wonder what Wright's cut would be)

 

[BrianH]

"Companies should have a certain level of social responsibility. We know hand-outs will not solve anything. What we need is education, equality and a paradigm change"

Maybe one thing we agree on Taomon.

But honestly, large scale white bigotry of blacks no longer exists. No more than bigotry of blacks against whites.

My family was contacted by a black man a year ago...he claimed that my family owned his ancestors as slaves and that we owe them something. Needless to say we never responded. My family did own slaves, but my ancestors and their ancestors are long gone. And I've been raised not to judge people by their skin color.

I do not agree with the end of your sentence though...we do have equality. No race is given any more than any other race...opportunity wise.

Granted, their are probably neo-nazi groups and white racist groups....bu their are just as many black groups that hate against whites. Black Panthers, Pastor Wright...

 

[jreeves]

Did I say socialist? You are fucking dumb. You just automatically state socialism and then vehemently disagree and go on a tirade.

Blacks feel disenfranchised. Bigotry is still rampant in this country. When the slaves were freed, blacks were elevated to second class citizens. In some places, they were not even that.

But they have to rise above it because you claim that they feel we owe them something.

Actually, we do owe blacks something. We owe them solidarity. And that is lacking in all of our foreign & domestic policies.

I am all for making money and companies getting rich. I don't believe that it can only be achieved by stepping on the necks of the poor.

Companies should have a certain level of social responsibility. We know hand-outs will not solve anything. What we need is education, equality and a paradigm change.

Why would that be wrong?

Because it isn't companies job to heal any race. Companies are in business to make a profit, not to heal racial divides. Come on are you serious?

Affirmative action is a prime example of our bigotry as a nation right? A black in this country has ever bit as much opportunity to make a reasonable living as a white person. Yes some blacks as well as whites come from disadvantaged backgrounds.

How are companies stepping on the necks of people to make a profit? I believe there are white racist out there, but there are also black racist. Neither one of them is more justified than the other.

 

[Annie]

Um, no. That would be inaccurate.

It was this:

If you are not a woman, black, asian, hispanic, gay, or poor...you do not understand.
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Well I am a woman and have empathy for many. The only folks left off of your list are rich Indians and white men.

 

[CrpRavens30]

Did I say socialist? You are fucking dumb. You just automatically state socialism and then vehemently disagree and go on a tirade.

Blacks feel disenfranchised. Bigotry is still rampant in this country. When the slaves were freed, blacks were elevated to second class citizens. In some places, they were not even that.

But they have to rise above it because you claim that they feel we owe them something.

Actually, we do owe blacks something. We owe them solidarity. And that is lacking in all of our foreign & domestic policies.

I am all for making money and companies getting rich. I don't believe that it can only be achieved by stepping on the necks of the poor.

Companies should have a certain level of social responsibility. We know hand-outs will not solve anything. What we need is education, equality and a paradigm change.

Why would that be wrong?

We dont anyone a damn thing in this country. Non one alive today was a slave. There are plenty of examples of blacks that have made it through hard work.

 

[Larkinn]

We dont anyone a damn thing in this country. Non one alive today was a slave. There are plenty of examples of blacks that have made it through hard work.

There are people alive who suffered through Jim Crow. You think that somehow that didn't effect people?

Also I love this claim that somehow what happens to parents doesn't effect the children. Ridiculously untrue.

 

[Larkinn]

It was this:



Well I am a woman and have empathy for many. The only folks left off of your list are rich Indians and white men.

Wait you mean rich white men can't understand what its like to be disadvantaged?

Gee...I wonder why he left them off the list.

 

[Larkinn]

Ok let's analyze the subject then, pastor makes racial inflammatory comments for 20 years, Obama states he never heard him make these statements. Even though back in April 2007 they both acknowledge that Obama will probably have to distance himself from Wright. Seems as though Obama knew he was a racist and stayed in the church.

Really? He made them for 20 years?

Please give me a cite of one he made each year he was a pastor.

 

[jreeves]

Really? He made them for 20 years?

Please give me a cite of one he made each year he was a pastor.

Excuse me mr. literalist, if you want to believe someone that had stated such hate and strong of views of racism. To state, that whites infected black people with Aids, didn't make the same comments 20 years ago then go ahead pull your Obama '08 shirt over your head and bury it in the sand.

 

[jreeves]

Wait you mean rich white men can't understand what its like to be disadvantaged?

Gee...I wonder why he left them off the list.

Obama was so disadvantaged, he went to Harvard and is now running for President of the US. Come on get real.

 

[Larkinn]

Excuse me mr. literalist, if you want to believe someone that had stated such hate and strong of views of racism. To state, that whites infected black people with Aids, didn't make the same comments 20 years ago then go ahead pull your Obama '08 shirt over your head and bury it in the sand.

K...so if someone says something once they say it all the time? Or is your argument that people always have the same coherent set of ideas?

Gee...in a Black Church they rail against white discrimination. What a surprise.