Obama hacks another limb off representative republic: FCC does Net Neutrality

[Stephanie]

well well, lookie here in the article.

President Barack Obama campaigned on a promise to implement net neutrality rules. Genachowski’s plans to carry out that promise were hampered when a federal court ruled the FCC did not have legal authority to adopt the regulations.

There are also political reasons for releasing a proposal early next week. Lawmakers will already be gone for the Thanksgiving holiday, giving the FCC a small window to release a controversial order without immediate harsh reactions from Capitol Hill Republicans.

While any net neutrality proposal will cause waves in the telecom world, sources say December is an ideal time for Genachowski to act on the issue because Republicans will not yet have officially assumed control of the House.

Call your friggen Reps and tell them to STOP THIS ABUSE OF POWER.

there are lots of comments on site with this article



Read more: Sources: FCC chief working on net neutrality proposal - Kim Hart - POLITICO.com

 

[Revere]

This is something I have yet to understand. Are you really arguing that your ISP should have the right to decide what websites you can visit?

What if USMessageBoard isn't on their list?

If you work for a company that has internet access, they already do.

If you want the same NFL package on FIOS cable as you do DirecTV, you're screwed.

Ok. So that is what you're arguing.

There's really no reason to continue this discussion. We just simply, vehemently disagree.

Why should Time Warner demand access to the same technology FIOS has? Why should Time Warner be able to sell their crap on the fiber optic network FIOS spent money to create in my community?

 

[Oddball]

In December.

Obama doesnt' believe in a representative republic.

Just a lot of rules by agencies he controls and who answer to nobody.

Sources: FCC chief working on net neutrality proposal - Kim Hart - POLITICO.com

Federal Communications Commission Chairman Julius Genachowski is putting together a net neutrality proposal and plans to take action on the controversial issue as early as next month, according to several sources with knowledge of the situation.

Details of the proposal being developed by Genachowski’s office are unclear, but sources say it could be similar to the deal stakeholders tried to reach with Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) earlier this fall.

The long-running net neutrality debate centers around rules that would require Internet service providers to treat all web traffic equally. Internet companies like Google and Skype want net neutrality rules applied to both wireline and wireless networks, but network operators including AT&T, Verizon and Comcast say they need flexibility to manage web traffic on their lines



Read more: Sources: FCC chief working on net neutrality proposal - Kim Hart - POLITICO.com

This is something I have yet to understand. Are you really arguing that your ISP should have the right to decide what websites you can visit?

What if USMessageBoard isn't on their list?

Total red herring argument.

What's in it for them to block access to websites?

 

[Revere]

Obama won't even deal with this, or lots of other things, in the light of day. In Congress. His entire second two years is going to be spent doing agency end-arounds like this.

Who can blame Congress for blocking everything he wants to do?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

If you work for a company that has internet access, they already do.

If you want the same NFL package on FIOS cable as you do DirecTV, you're screwed.

Ok. So that is what you're arguing.

There's really no reason to continue this discussion. We just simply, vehemently disagree.

Why should Time Warner demand access to the same technology FIOS has? Why should Time Warner be able to sell their crap on the fiber optic network FIOS spent money to create in my community?

Listen, there's really no point in arguing about this anymore. We disagree.

There's nothing more to be said about it.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

In December.

Obama doesnt' believe in a representative republic.

Just a lot of rules by agencies he controls and who answer to nobody.

Sources: FCC chief working on net neutrality proposal - Kim Hart - POLITICO.com

This is something I have yet to understand. Are you really arguing that your ISP should have the right to decide what websites you can visit?

What if USMessageBoard isn't on their list?

Total red herring argument.

What's in it for them to block access to websites?

To charge website hosts for bandwidth.

Which, of course, is the only thing that Net Neutrality addresses. But seriously, we've been over this before. We don't agree. I'd prefer not to have insults thrown at me any more about this.

 

[Oddball]

So what?...It's their bandwidth to sell....If they were so interested in blocking stuff, why haven't they censored porn and hate group websites?

Besides, Comcast already lost the lawsuit over "throttling".

This is nothing more than a naked play for power.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'm convinced that Obama is trying to start a civil war, there's no other rational explanation

 

[Revere]

Why should government make search engines include information they think should be included?

Do you trust Obama's "information czar, " Cass Sunstein, with his concept of credibility and neutrality?

“Government can partially circumvent these problems if it enlists nongovernmental officials in the effort to rebut the theories. It might ensure that credible independent experts offer the rebuttal, rather than government officials themselves. There is a tradeoff between credibility and control, however. The price of credibility is that government cannot be seen to control the independent experts. Although government can supply these independent experts with information and perhaps prod them into action from behind the scenes, too close a connection will prove self-defeating if it is exposed — as witness the humiliating disclosures showing that apparently independent opinions on scientific and regulatory questions were in fact paid for by think-tanks with ties to the Bush administration. Even apart from this tradeoff, conspiracy theorists may still fold independent third-party rebuttals into their theory by making conspiratorial claims of connection between the third party and the government.”

These people are telling you who they are. Why aren't you listening?

 

[Mad Scientist]

This doesn't look so bad to me. What am I missing? What am I not understanding?
What is Net neutrality? - Definition from Whatis.com - see also: network neutrality, First Amendment of the Internet

Net neutrality is the principle that data packets on the Internet should be moved impartially, without regard to content, destination or source. Net neutrality is sometimes referred to as the "First Amendment of the Internet."

In the United States, high-speed Internet carriers, including AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner and Verizon, are seeking legislative support for a two-tiered Internet service model. In a two-tiered model, carriers would be able to charge owners of Web sites a premium fee for priority placement and faster speed across their pipes.

Those opposing the carriers argue that the Internet was designed to work in a traffic-neutral way and has become what it is, to some extent, because of that neutrality. They would like to see Congress pass a telecom reform bill that contains language in favor of Net neutrality.

"Net Neutrality" seeks to stop the "2 Tiered Internet" right?

 

[Stephanie]

The people better keep awake to what this administration is trying to pull.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If we survive to 2012, we need to scrap the FCC

 

[Mad Scientist]

It's not like the "Internet Kill Switch" Obama want's. Which I'm totally against.

 

[JFK_USA]

Really?

That's what you think it is?

And just who do you think developed "the backbone" in the first place?

Sprint, Verizon, etc.

Don't embarrass yourself by claiming their 3g or 4g networks owe their exsitence to the internet Al Gore invented decades ago.

That, and the FCC has no authority over the internet. The SCOTUS already said so. This is a naked power grab by a discredited President who can't get anything passed through the legislative process anymore.

You're one of those fucknuts who think the internet is a public good, aren't you, fucknuts?

Back down there sonny boy. You could get hurt.

And yeah..the government developed the telecommunications backbone..and keeps sinking money into it. The FCC should have jurisdiction. Content should not be controlled by people with the most money.

Revere doesn't use logic. Glenn Beck tells him everything he needs to believe.

 

[Revere]

Sprint, Verizon, etc.

Don't embarrass yourself by claiming their 3g or 4g networks owe their exsitence to the internet Al Gore invented decades ago.

That, and the FCC has no authority over the internet. The SCOTUS already said so. This is a naked power grab by a discredited President who can't get anything passed through the legislative process anymore.

You're one of those fucknuts who think the internet is a public good, aren't you, fucknuts?

Back down there sonny boy. You could get hurt.

And yeah..the government developed the telecommunications backbone..and keeps sinking money into it. The FCC should have jurisdiction. Content should not be controlled by people with the most money.

Revere doesn't use logic. Glenn Beck tells him everything he needs to believe.

Hey, dickless, which government agency developed, and paid for, Verizon's fiber optic network?

 

[JFK_USA]

If we survive to 2012, we need to scrap the FCC

Umm... Yeah they won't but nice try.

 

[Stephanie]

Sprint, Verizon, etc.

Don't embarrass yourself by claiming their 3g or 4g networks owe their exsitence to the internet Al Gore invented decades ago.

That, and the FCC has no authority over the internet. The SCOTUS already said so. This is a naked power grab by a discredited President who can't get anything passed through the legislative process anymore.

You're one of those fucknuts who think the internet is a public good, aren't you, fucknuts?

Back down there sonny boy. You could get hurt.

And yeah..the government developed the telecommunications backbone..and keeps sinking money into it. The FCC should have jurisdiction. Content should not be controlled by people with the most money.

Revere doesn't use logic. Glenn Beck tells him everything he needs to believe.

good grief, and PMSmbc must be your source for what you think and say. you sound just like them.

 

[JFK_USA]

If we survive to 2012, we need to scrap the FCC

NO they won't but play again!!

 

[Mad Scientist]

Are you guys gonna' discuss Net Neutrality or just call each other names?

 

[Revere]

He can put his dick back on and tell me why the government should tell Verizon what it can and can't do on their fiber optic network.