Obama Flouts The Constitution

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With respect to laws passed by Congress, and signed by the President...can another President decide, unilaterally, to change the law?

Or is that constitutional?




1. "Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

2. ...HHS issued regulations that modified — gutted — the work requirement. Its new regulations allow the states to substitute education programs for work to get welfare benefits. The regs say that “vocational educational training or job search/readiness programs” “count as well” in meeting the basic condition that recipients work in order to receive welfare...


3. The Congress specifically prohibited the use of education or training to fulfill the requirement.

4. When it passed welfare reform, Congress expressly limited the authority of the secretary of HHS to waive the work requirement.

a. “Section 415(a)(2)(B) of the welfare reform act, now codified at 42 U.S.C. § 615(a)(2)(B), expressly states that ‘a waiver granted under section 1315 of this title [the one that HHS now claims it is acting under] or otherwise which relates to the provision of assistance under a State program funded under this part (as in effect on Sept. 30, 1996) shall not affect the applicability of section 607 of this title [which applies the work requirements] to the State.’

b. In short, whatever else might be said of the scope of the waiver authority, the Secretary has no lawful authority to waive the work requirements of section 607...




5. ...then-Senate Republican Majority Leader Trent Lott (Miss.) was particularly suspicious that future HHS secretaries might dilute the work requirement, just as the administration has done. He worked overtime with counsel to make sure that education and training would not be used to substitute for the work provision.

6. ...the action is a “blatant violation of the law,” and Mitt Romney has attacked it, saying “the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life.”

7. ... “in the past, state bureaucrats have attempted to define activities such as hula dancing, attending Weight Watchers, and bed rest as ‘work.’ These dodges were blocked by the federal work standards. Now that the Obama administration has abolished those standards,...

8. ...welfare reform has been one of the most successful programs enacted in recent decades. Under its provisions, the welfare population has been cut in half while child poverty — until the current recession — dropped by one-third.




9. ...Obama’s strategy of expanding his political base by widening the dependency on government handouts.

10. We are rapidly becoming a nation that doesn’t work, doesn’t pay income taxes and gets entitlement checks."
Obama kills welfare reform - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com




"On May 22, 1782, one of Washington’s officers, ...proposed that Washington become King of the United States.

Washington wrote that he could not think of anything in his own conduct that would suggest that he would consider being king. “You could not have found a person to whom your schemes are more disagreeable.”
Rediscovering George Washington . Classroom: George Washington and the Rule of Law | PBS


Barack Obama.....you're no George Washington.
 
With respect to laws passed by Congress, and signed by the President...can another President decide, unilaterally, to change the law?

Or is that constitutional?




1. "Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

2. ...HHS issued regulations that modified — gutted — the work requirement. Its new regulations allow the states to substitute education programs for work to get welfare benefits. The regs say that “vocational educational training or job search/readiness programs” “count as well” in meeting the basic condition that recipients work in order to receive welfare...


3. The Congress specifically prohibited the use of education or training to fulfill the requirement.

4. When it passed welfare reform, Congress expressly limited the authority of the secretary of HHS to waive the work requirement.

a. “Section 415(a)(2)(B) of the welfare reform act, now codified at 42 U.S.C. § 615(a)(2)(B), expressly states that ‘a waiver granted under section 1315 of this title [the one that HHS now claims it is acting under] or otherwise which relates to the provision of assistance under a State program funded under this part (as in effect on Sept. 30, 1996) shall not affect the applicability of section 607 of this title [which applies the work requirements] to the State.’

b. In short, whatever else might be said of the scope of the waiver authority, the Secretary has no lawful authority to waive the work requirements of section 607...




5. ...then-Senate Republican Majority Leader Trent Lott (Miss.) was particularly suspicious that future HHS secretaries might dilute the work requirement, just as the administration has done. He worked overtime with counsel to make sure that education and training would not be used to substitute for the work provision.

6. ...the action is a “blatant violation of the law,” and Mitt Romney has attacked it, saying “the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life.”

7. ... “in the past, state bureaucrats have attempted to define activities such as hula dancing, attending Weight Watchers, and bed rest as ‘work.’ These dodges were blocked by the federal work standards. Now that the Obama administration has abolished those standards,...

8. ...welfare reform has been one of the most successful programs enacted in recent decades. Under its provisions, the welfare population has been cut in half while child poverty — until the current recession — dropped by one-third.




9. ...Obama’s strategy of expanding his political base by widening the dependency on government handouts.

10. We are rapidly becoming a nation that doesn’t work, doesn’t pay income taxes and gets entitlement checks."
Obama kills welfare reform - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com




"On May 22, 1782, one of Washington’s officers, ...proposed that Washington become King of the United States.

Washington wrote that he could not think of anything in his own conduct that would suggest that he would consider being king. “You could not have found a person to whom your schemes are more disagreeable.”
Rediscovering George Washington . Classroom: George Washington and the Rule of Law | PBS


Barack Obama.....you're no George Washington.

Not only does the President have no authority to rewrite laws but the Congress has no authority to delegate law writing to executive branch departments.
 
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With respect to laws passed by Congress, and signed by the President...can another President decide, unilaterally, to change the law?

Or is that constitutional?




1. "Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

2. ...HHS issued regulations that modified — gutted — the work requirement. Its new regulations allow the states to substitute education programs for work to get welfare benefits. The regs say that “vocational educational training or job search/readiness programs” “count as well” in meeting the basic condition that recipients work in order to receive welfare...


3. The Congress specifically prohibited the use of education or training to fulfill the requirement.

4. When it passed welfare reform, Congress expressly limited the authority of the secretary of HHS to waive the work requirement.

a. “Section 415(a)(2)(B) of the welfare reform act, now codified at 42 U.S.C. § 615(a)(2)(B), expressly states that ‘a waiver granted under section 1315 of this title [the one that HHS now claims it is acting under] or otherwise which relates to the provision of assistance under a State program funded under this part (as in effect on Sept. 30, 1996) shall not affect the applicability of section 607 of this title [which applies the work requirements] to the State.’

b. In short, whatever else might be said of the scope of the waiver authority, the Secretary has no lawful authority to waive the work requirements of section 607...




5. ...then-Senate Republican Majority Leader Trent Lott (Miss.) was particularly suspicious that future HHS secretaries might dilute the work requirement, just as the administration has done. He worked overtime with counsel to make sure that education and training would not be used to substitute for the work provision.

6. ...the action is a “blatant violation of the law,” and Mitt Romney has attacked it, saying “the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life.”

7. ... “in the past, state bureaucrats have attempted to define activities such as hula dancing, attending Weight Watchers, and bed rest as ‘work.’ These dodges were blocked by the federal work standards. Now that the Obama administration has abolished those standards,...

8. ...welfare reform has been one of the most successful programs enacted in recent decades. Under its provisions, the welfare population has been cut in half while child poverty — until the current recession — dropped by one-third.




9. ...Obama’s strategy of expanding his political base by widening the dependency on government handouts.

10. We are rapidly becoming a nation that doesn’t work, doesn’t pay income taxes and gets entitlement checks."
Obama kills welfare reform - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com




"On May 22, 1782, one of Washington’s officers, ...proposed that Washington become King of the United States.

Washington wrote that he could not think of anything in his own conduct that would suggest that he would consider being king. “You could not have found a person to whom your schemes are more disagreeable.”
Rediscovering George Washington . Classroom: George Washington and the Rule of Law | PBS


Barack Obama.....you're no George Washington.

This idiocy was proven weeks ago as false, the OP should research first before posting:

One man’s gutting is, of course, another man’s tweaking, but in this case, the Obama administration is not removing the bill’s work requirements at all. He’s changing them to allow states more flexibility. But the principle that welfare programs must require recipients to move toward employment isn’t going anywhere.

Here’s what’s happening. George Sheldon, the acting assistant secretary for the Administration for Children and Families (ACF) at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), sent states a memorandum inviting them to submit applications for waivers from certain aspects of the TANF law. The stated intention is to allow states more room to try programs that promote employment for welfare recipients in the face of the recession. The actual language is rather strict and rules out a number of potential waiver applications. For example, the memo states, “The Secretary will not use her authority to allow use of TANF funds to provide assistance to individuals or families subject to the TANF prohibitions on assistance.” Translation: people who aren’t on TANF because they didn’t meet the work requirements aren’t going to get bailed out here. Proposed waivers also must include concrete methods of evaluating performance, and set standards that the new programs must meet for the waiver to continue.

The sort of changes allowed by these waivers, the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities’ LaDonna Pavetti argued in a blog, could have a significantly positive impact on TANF’s ability to usher people into jobs. She explained that TANF’s work requirements are often phrased in terms of “activities,” which include not just employment but unpaid work and internships, job searching, etc. “The outcome measure isn’t what you want, which is employment rather than activities,” she argues. The waivers will make it easier for states to target employment rather than activity participation, so people stuck in unpaid work or spending months on a job hunt aren’t counted as successes and denied aid.

Is Obama gutting welfare reform?
 
With respect to laws passed by Congress, and signed by the President...can another President decide, unilaterally, to change the law?

Or is that constitutional?




1. "Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

2. ...HHS issued regulations that modified — gutted — the work requirement. Its new regulations allow the states to substitute education programs for work to get welfare benefits. The regs say that “vocational educational training or job search/readiness programs” “count as well” in meeting the basic condition that recipients work in order to receive welfare...


3. The Congress specifically prohibited the use of education or training to fulfill the requirement.

4. When it passed welfare reform, Congress expressly limited the authority of the secretary of HHS to waive the work requirement.

a. “Section 415(a)(2)(B) of the welfare reform act, now codified at 42 U.S.C. § 615(a)(2)(B), expressly states that ‘a waiver granted under section 1315 of this title [the one that HHS now claims it is acting under] or otherwise which relates to the provision of assistance under a State program funded under this part (as in effect on Sept. 30, 1996) shall not affect the applicability of section 607 of this title [which applies the work requirements] to the State.’

b. In short, whatever else might be said of the scope of the waiver authority, the Secretary has no lawful authority to waive the work requirements of section 607...




5. ...then-Senate Republican Majority Leader Trent Lott (Miss.) was particularly suspicious that future HHS secretaries might dilute the work requirement, just as the administration has done. He worked overtime with counsel to make sure that education and training would not be used to substitute for the work provision.

6. ...the action is a “blatant violation of the law,” and Mitt Romney has attacked it, saying “the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life.”

7. ... “in the past, state bureaucrats have attempted to define activities such as hula dancing, attending Weight Watchers, and bed rest as ‘work.’ These dodges were blocked by the federal work standards. Now that the Obama administration has abolished those standards,...

8. ...welfare reform has been one of the most successful programs enacted in recent decades. Under its provisions, the welfare population has been cut in half while child poverty — until the current recession — dropped by one-third.




9. ...Obama’s strategy of expanding his political base by widening the dependency on government handouts.

10. We are rapidly becoming a nation that doesn’t work, doesn’t pay income taxes and gets entitlement checks."
Obama kills welfare reform - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com




"On May 22, 1782, one of Washington’s officers, ...proposed that Washington become King of the United States.

Washington wrote that he could not think of anything in his own conduct that would suggest that he would consider being king. “You could not have found a person to whom your schemes are more disagreeable.”
Rediscovering George Washington . Classroom: George Washington and the Rule of Law | PBS


Barack Obama.....you're no George Washington.

Better get a ruling from the Supreme Court then!!!
 
With respect to laws passed by Congress, and signed by the President...can another President decide, unilaterally, to change the law?

Or is that constitutional?




1. "Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

2. ...HHS issued regulations that modified — gutted — the work requirement. Its new regulations allow the states to substitute education programs for work to get welfare benefits. The regs say that “vocational educational training or job search/readiness programs” “count as well” in meeting the basic condition that recipients work in order to receive welfare...


3. The Congress specifically prohibited the use of education or training to fulfill the requirement.

4. When it passed welfare reform, Congress expressly limited the authority of the secretary of HHS to waive the work requirement.

a. “Section 415(a)(2)(B) of the welfare reform act, now codified at 42 U.S.C. § 615(a)(2)(B), expressly states that ‘a waiver granted under section 1315 of this title [the one that HHS now claims it is acting under] or otherwise which relates to the provision of assistance under a State program funded under this part (as in effect on Sept. 30, 1996) shall not affect the applicability of section 607 of this title [which applies the work requirements] to the State.’

b. In short, whatever else might be said of the scope of the waiver authority, the Secretary has no lawful authority to waive the work requirements of section 607...




5. ...then-Senate Republican Majority Leader Trent Lott (Miss.) was particularly suspicious that future HHS secretaries might dilute the work requirement, just as the administration has done. He worked overtime with counsel to make sure that education and training would not be used to substitute for the work provision.

6. ...the action is a “blatant violation of the law,” and Mitt Romney has attacked it, saying “the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life.”

7. ... “in the past, state bureaucrats have attempted to define activities such as hula dancing, attending Weight Watchers, and bed rest as ‘work.’ These dodges were blocked by the federal work standards. Now that the Obama administration has abolished those standards,...

8. ...welfare reform has been one of the most successful programs enacted in recent decades. Under its provisions, the welfare population has been cut in half while child poverty — until the current recession — dropped by one-third.




9. ...Obama’s strategy of expanding his political base by widening the dependency on government handouts.

10. We are rapidly becoming a nation that doesn’t work, doesn’t pay income taxes and gets entitlement checks."
Obama kills welfare reform - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com




"On May 22, 1782, one of Washington’s officers, ...proposed that Washington become King of the United States.

Washington wrote that he could not think of anything in his own conduct that would suggest that he would consider being king. “You could not have found a person to whom your schemes are more disagreeable.”
Rediscovering George Washington . Classroom: George Washington and the Rule of Law | PBS


Barack Obama.....you're no George Washington.

This idiocy was proven weeks ago as false, the OP should research first before posting:

One man’s gutting is, of course, another man’s tweaking, but in this case, the Obama administration is not removing the bill’s work requirements at all. He’s changing them to allow states more flexibility. But the principle that welfare programs must require recipients to move toward employment isn’t going anywhere.

Here’s what’s happening. George Sheldon, the acting assistant secretary for the Administration for Children and Families (ACF) at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), sent states a memorandum inviting them to submit applications for waivers from certain aspects of the TANF law. The stated intention is to allow states more room to try programs that promote employment for welfare recipients in the face of the recession. The actual language is rather strict and rules out a number of potential waiver applications. For example, the memo states, “The Secretary will not use her authority to allow use of TANF funds to provide assistance to individuals or families subject to the TANF prohibitions on assistance.” Translation: people who aren’t on TANF because they didn’t meet the work requirements aren’t going to get bailed out here. Proposed waivers also must include concrete methods of evaluating performance, and set standards that the new programs must meet for the waiver to continue.

The sort of changes allowed by these waivers, the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities’ LaDonna Pavetti argued in a blog, could have a significantly positive impact on TANF’s ability to usher people into jobs. She explained that TANF’s work requirements are often phrased in terms of “activities,” which include not just employment but unpaid work and internships, job searching, etc. “The outcome measure isn’t what you want, which is employment rather than activities,” she argues. The waivers will make it easier for states to target employment rather than activity participation, so people stuck in unpaid work or spending months on a job hunt aren’t counted as successes and denied aid.

Is Obama gutting welfare reform?

1. Poor, poor torte-boy....you want to believe so very badly that you ignore skills such as reading and thinking.

I understand.

November will be a rough one for you....


2. You see, the Left...i.e., you, are so opposed to work as a component of any welfare benefit, that you will pretend that that was the goal of the 1996 bill...and a highly successful one, too!

Isn't that so?


3. From the OP:
" "Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

...HHS issued regulations that modified — gutted — the work requirement. Its new regulations allow the states to substitute education programs for work to get welfare benefits. The regs say that “vocational educational training or job search/readiness programs” “count as well” in meeting the basic condition that recipients work in order to receive welfare..."

a. You seem a bit slow on the up-take, so let me spell it out: one must have an actual job to receive welfare benefits. Up to now, that is.




4. Let me help you to understand.
See, the bill was very specific as to what constituted "work"...

5. The Progressives hate-hate-hated the idea of folks acting responsibly....trying to get out of being on the dole....

...and sure enough, they found a fraud at 1600 Pennsylvania to ignore the very specific law and pretend that he can re-write legislation from the Oval Office.

If you ever have the opportunity to study law, you will see that obviating the Welfare Bill is not within Obama's purview....

...at least if he were to obey the Constitution.

a. Did you know, we have a President...not a king. NO, torte, they are not synonymous!


6. You've read the Constitution, haven't you, torte?






7. From the Washingon Compost:
"sent states a memorandum inviting them to submit applications for waivers"
So...you believe that it will be tough to get 'waivers'???

You'd have to be a real dunce to believe that, e.g....ObamaCare 'waivers.'



Your're not a dunce......are you?
 
Most of what obama does is unconstitutional, not that it's ever stopped him.
 
Despite the endless complaints, Vichy Americans still hold the nation in their claws; witness the execution of a man in the totalitarian state of Texas last week.
 
Why should people on Welfare have to work? They are far easier to control within the realm of their 60 inch flat screen.
 
Romney Claims Obama Guts Welfare Work Requirements By Doing Precisely What Romney Requested in 2005!

Contrary to the hysterics of the Obama opposition, the modification, which allows the Department of HHS to waive certain state requirements under the law, does not make any significant change in the substance of the law. Rather, the modification—which comes in the form of the occasional waiver— is a response to the many states seeking more control over how they administer their welfare program. These states have discovered that the federal requirements are tying up too many welfare workers and resources with cumbersome paperwork, resulting in less time being spent by welfare workers on actually helping those getting assistance find the work they need to keep, and ultimately no longer need, the government aid.

The waiver would also permit states to tighten up on some language in the federal law that allows welfare recipients to claim unpaid internships and other such endeavors as qualifiers for welfare rather that getting actual, paying jobs.

Romney Claims Obama Guts Welfare Work Requirements By Doing Precisely What Romney Requested in 2005! - Forbes
 
With respect to laws passed by Congress, and signed by the President...can another President decide, unilaterally, to change the law?

Or is that constitutional?




1. "Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

2. ...HHS issued regulations that modified — gutted — the work requirement. Its new regulations allow the states to substitute education programs for work to get welfare benefits. The regs say that “vocational educational training or job search/readiness programs” “count as well” in meeting the basic condition that recipients work in order to receive welfare...


3. The Congress specifically prohibited the use of education or training to fulfill the requirement.

4. When it passed welfare reform, Congress expressly limited the authority of the secretary of HHS to waive the work requirement.

a. “Section 415(a)(2)(B) of the welfare reform act, now codified at 42 U.S.C. § 615(a)(2)(B), expressly states that ‘a waiver granted under section 1315 of this title [the one that HHS now claims it is acting under] or otherwise which relates to the provision of assistance under a State program funded under this part (as in effect on Sept. 30, 1996) shall not affect the applicability of section 607 of this title [which applies the work requirements] to the State.’

b. In short, whatever else might be said of the scope of the waiver authority, the Secretary has no lawful authority to waive the work requirements of section 607...




5. ...then-Senate Republican Majority Leader Trent Lott (Miss.) was particularly suspicious that future HHS secretaries might dilute the work requirement, just as the administration has done. He worked overtime with counsel to make sure that education and training would not be used to substitute for the work provision.

6. ...the action is a “blatant violation of the law,” and Mitt Romney has attacked it, saying “the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life.”

7. ... “in the past, state bureaucrats have attempted to define activities such as hula dancing, attending Weight Watchers, and bed rest as ‘work.’ These dodges were blocked by the federal work standards. Now that the Obama administration has abolished those standards,...

8. ...welfare reform has been one of the most successful programs enacted in recent decades. Under its provisions, the welfare population has been cut in half while child poverty — until the current recession — dropped by one-third.




9. ...Obama’s strategy of expanding his political base by widening the dependency on government handouts.

10. We are rapidly becoming a nation that doesn’t work, doesn’t pay income taxes and gets entitlement checks."
Obama kills welfare reform - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com




"On May 22, 1782, one of Washington’s officers, ...proposed that Washington become King of the United States.

Washington wrote that he could not think of anything in his own conduct that would suggest that he would consider being king. “You could not have found a person to whom your schemes are more disagreeable.”
Rediscovering George Washington . Classroom: George Washington and the Rule of Law | PBS


Barack Obama.....you're no George Washington.

This idiocy was proven weeks ago as false, the OP should research first before posting:

One man’s gutting is, of course, another man’s tweaking, but in this case, the Obama administration is not removing the bill’s work requirements at all. He’s changing them to allow states more flexibility. But the principle that welfare programs must require recipients to move toward employment isn’t going anywhere.

Here’s what’s happening. George Sheldon, the acting assistant secretary for the Administration for Children and Families (ACF) at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), sent states a memorandum inviting them to submit applications for waivers from certain aspects of the TANF law. The stated intention is to allow states more room to try programs that promote employment for welfare recipients in the face of the recession. The actual language is rather strict and rules out a number of potential waiver applications. For example, the memo states, “The Secretary will not use her authority to allow use of TANF funds to provide assistance to individuals or families subject to the TANF prohibitions on assistance.” Translation: people who aren’t on TANF because they didn’t meet the work requirements aren’t going to get bailed out here. Proposed waivers also must include concrete methods of evaluating performance, and set standards that the new programs must meet for the waiver to continue.

The sort of changes allowed by these waivers, the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities’ LaDonna Pavetti argued in a blog, could have a significantly positive impact on TANF’s ability to usher people into jobs. She explained that TANF’s work requirements are often phrased in terms of “activities,” which include not just employment but unpaid work and internships, job searching, etc. “The outcome measure isn’t what you want, which is employment rather than activities,” she argues. The waivers will make it easier for states to target employment rather than activity participation, so people stuck in unpaid work or spending months on a job hunt aren’t counted as successes and denied aid.

Is Obama gutting welfare reform?

1. Poor, poor torte-boy....you want to believe so very badly that you ignore skills such as reading and thinking.

I understand.

November will be a rough one for you....


2. You see, the Left...i.e., you, are so opposed to work as a component of any welfare benefit, that you will pretend that that was the goal of the 1996 bill...and a highly successful one, too!

Isn't that so?


3. From the OP:
" "Determined to destroy Bill Clinton’s signature achievement, President Obama’s administration has opened a loophole in the 1996 welfare reform legislation big enough to make the law ineffective. Its work requirement — the central feature of the legislation — has been diluted beyond recognition by the bureaucrats at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

...HHS issued regulations that modified — gutted — the work requirement. Its new regulations allow the states to substitute education programs for work to get welfare benefits. The regs say that “vocational educational training or job search/readiness programs” “count as well” in meeting the basic condition that recipients work in order to receive welfare..."

a. You seem a bit slow on the up-take, so let me spell it out: one must have an actual job to receive welfare benefits. Up to now, that is.




4. Let me help you to understand.
See, the bill was very specific as to what constituted "work"...

5. The Progressives hate-hate-hated the idea of folks acting responsibly....trying to get out of being on the dole....

...and sure enough, they found a fraud at 1600 Pennsylvania to ignore the very specific law and pretend that he can re-write legislation from the Oval Office.

If you ever have the opportunity to study law, you will see that obviating the Welfare Bill is not within Obama's purview....

...at least if he were to obey the Constitution.

a. Did you know, we have a President...not a king. NO, torte, they are not synonymous!


6. You've read the Constitution, haven't you, torte?






7. From the Washingon Compost:
"sent states a memorandum inviting them to submit applications for waivers"
So...you believe that it will be tough to get 'waivers'???

You'd have to be a real dunce to believe that, e.g....ObamaCare 'waivers.'



Your're not a dunce......are you?

I bet your very myopic to the truth.
 
Romney Claims Obama Guts Welfare Work Requirements By Doing Precisely What Romney Requested in 2005!

Contrary to the hysterics of the Obama opposition, the modification, which allows the Department of HHS to waive certain state requirements under the law, does not make any significant change in the substance of the law. Rather, the modification—which comes in the form of the occasional waiver— is a response to the many states seeking more control over how they administer their welfare program. These states have discovered that the federal requirements are tying up too many welfare workers and resources with cumbersome paperwork, resulting in less time being spent by welfare workers on actually helping those getting assistance find the work they need to keep, and ultimately no longer need, the government aid.

The waiver would also permit states to tighten up on some language in the federal law that allows welfare recipients to claim unpaid internships and other such endeavors as qualifiers for welfare rather that getting actual, paying jobs.

Romney Claims Obama Guts Welfare Work Requirements By Doing Precisely What Romney Requested in 2005! - Forbes

How could it be a lie is you're charging Romney with same?


"...in the form of the occasional waiver..."
The bill signed in 1996 did not, does not, allow said waivers.



The continued goal of the Leftists is to remove any desire by the weak to take responsibility for their own success...and rely solely on big government....

...exactly as Alexis de Tocqueville predicted almost two hundred years ago.


And you, friend drop-draws, follow in lock-step due to two factors: lack of education, and a weak mind.
 
Despite the endless complaints, Vichy Americans still hold the nation in their claws; witness the execution of a man in the totalitarian state of Texas last week.

You meant Arizona where Holder acted as an accomplis in the murder of Brain Terry, right?
 
Despite the endless complaints, Vichy Americans still hold the nation in their claws; witness the execution of a man in the totalitarian state of Texas last week.

You meant Arizona where Holder acted as an accomplis in the murder of Brain Terry, right?

It is jaw-dropping as to what lengths the Democrat-Liberal-Progressive-big government subscribers will descent to to impose more laws and regulations....right up to participating in the death of brave officers like Terry.
 
Exactly what is the welfare work requirement? In a nutshell:

All recipients of welfare aid must find work within two years of receiving aid, including single parents who are required to work at least 30 hours per week opposed to 35 or 55 required by two parent families. Failure to comply with work requirements could result in loss of benefits.

Let's suppose a guy who is on welfare. He is uneducated and cannot find work. When he can, the best he can do is washing dishes somewhere. But he always liked to tinker with cars. An auto mechanics school opens up in his town. They provide sepcial arrangements for welfare recipients and our welfare guy has a chance to enroll.

Under President Obama's plan, he will be able to do it. He can still receive welfare while attending auto mechanic's shool. He pays his reduced tuition out of his welfare benefits and agrees to settle up for the rest after he graduates and finds work - you know, kind of like a student loan.

Under the former plan, he would be screwed.

Seems pretty evident to me which is the better of the two deals - both for people on welfare and for society in general. Which would you rather have in the long run - a dish washer or a trained auto mechanic?
 
Exactly what is the welfare work requirement? In a nutshell:

All recipients of welfare aid must find work within two years of receiving aid, including single parents who are required to work at least 30 hours per week opposed to 35 or 55 required by two parent families. Failure to comply with work requirements could result in loss of benefits.

Let's suppose a guy who is on welfare. He is uneducated and cannot find work. When he can, the best he can do is washing dishes somewhere. But he always liked to tinker with cars. An auto mechanics school opens up in his town. They provide sepcial arrangements for welfare recipients and our welfare guy has a chance to enroll.

Under President Obama's plan, he will be able to do it. He can still receive welfare while attending auto mechanic's shool. He pays his reduced tuition out of his welfare benefits and agrees to settle up for the rest after he graduates and finds work - you know, kind of like a student loan.

Under the former plan, he would be screwed.

Seems pretty evident to me which is the better of the two deals - both for people on welfare and for society in general. Which would you rather have in the long run - a dish washer or a trained auto mechanic?

Let's suppose, Georgie, that you decide to put your dinero where you put your diner.....

...how about you pay for the tuition of some of the folks you'd like to support....


No?


Then how about we suppose that you've been on this earth long enough to be aware of the beliefs of the Left re: welfare vs. workfare.


...and that you will admit the amazing success of the workfare aspect of the 1996 Bill that Obama is emasculating....and the intransigence of the Left in requiring any....any...work for welfare 'clients'...


...can you do that?


No?


That defines you as an ideologue.
 
Exactly what is the welfare work requirement? In a nutshell:

All recipients of welfare aid must find work within two years of receiving aid, including single parents who are required to work at least 30 hours per week opposed to 35 or 55 required by two parent families. Failure to comply with work requirements could result in loss of benefits.

Let's suppose a guy who is on welfare. He is uneducated and cannot find work. When he can, the best he can do is washing dishes somewhere. But he always liked to tinker with cars. An auto mechanics school opens up in his town. They provide sepcial arrangements for welfare recipients and our welfare guy has a chance to enroll.

Under President Obama's plan, he will be able to do it. He can still receive welfare while attending auto mechanic's shool. He pays his reduced tuition out of his welfare benefits and agrees to settle up for the rest after he graduates and finds work - you know, kind of like a student loan.

Under the former plan, he would be screwed.

Seems pretty evident to me which is the better of the two deals - both for people on welfare and for society in general. Which would you rather have in the long run - a dish washer or a trained auto mechanic?

Let's suppose, Georgie, that you decide to put your dinero where you put your diner.....

...how about you pay for the tuition of some of the folks you'd like to support....


No?


Then how about we suppose that you've been on this earth long enough to be aware of the beliefs of the Left re: welfare vs. workfare.


...and that you will admit the amazing success of the workfare aspect of the 1996 Bill that Obama is emasculating....and the intransigence of the Left in requiring any....any...work for welfare 'clients'...


...can you do that?


No?


That defines you as an ideologue.

In the example I gave, the auto repair school was accepting reduced tuition from welfare people in order to allow them to pay their own way out of their welfare benefits, so your tax dollars would not be involved beyond what they already are for the original benefits.

Also, a suggestion - cut the cutsie, cutsie business and just argue the point.
 

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