Obama Floats Plan to Tax Cars by the Mile

[theDoctorisIn]

I gotta say, I love some Conservatives.

You guys are really getting "outraged" about a fight you already won? This isn't going to happen, it's too unpopular. Hense the reason the administration backed off it completely.

don't think for a nano-second your people don't want this with all their being.
Otherwise they would just cut out this bullshit.

What are you talking about?

 

[thereisnospoon]

I gotta say, I love some Conservatives.

You guys are really getting "outraged" about a fight you already won? This isn't going to happen, it's too unpopular. Hense the reason the administration backed off it completely.

don't think for a nano-second your people don't want this with all their being.
Otherwise they would just cut out this bullshit.

What are you talking about?

What's the subject matter of the thread?
Playing stupid is no way to go through life.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Another broken record playing.

One more time (for the last time......)

The proposal was included in a draft of the administration's Transportation Opportunities Act, but a White House spokesman said it "was not an administration proposal."

"This is not a bill supported by the administration," White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said. "This was an early working draft proposal that was never formally circulated within the administration, does not take into account the advice of the president’s senior advisers, economic team or Cabinet officials, and does not represent the views of the president."

White House disowns plan to tax car mileage - The Hill's Transportation Report

Yeah right. If obamaturd holds to his usual practices he will speak against it untill it hits his desk and then he will sign it joyfully and praise it as American. All those idiots floating this are nothing but socialists.

 

[The T]

Another broken record playing.

One more time (for the last time......)

The proposal was included in a draft of the administration's Transportation Opportunities Act, but a White House spokesman said it "was not an administration proposal."

"This is not a bill supported by the administration," White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said. "This was an early working draft proposal that was never formally circulated within the administration, does not take into account the advice of the president’s senior advisers, economic team or Cabinet officials, and does not represent the views of the president."

White House disowns plan to tax car mileage - The Hill's Transportation Report

Then why is it attributed to the administration?

 

[Charles_Main]

The Obama administration has floated a transportation authorization bill that would require the study and implementation of a plan to tax automobile drivers based on how many miles they drive.

The CBO report was requested by Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), who has proposed taxing cars by the mile as a way to increase federal highway revenues.

The proposal seems to follow up on that idea in section 2218 of the draft bill. That section would create, within the Federal Highway Administration, a Surface Transportation Revenue Alternatives Office. It would be tasked with creating a "study framework that defines the functionality of a mileage-based user fee system and other systems."

Obama administration floats draft plan to tax cars by the mile - The Hill's Floor Action

Now, I heard about this (also) on the radio, yesterday and it isn't quite the way the Hill is reporting it.

The idea would be to FORCE YOU TO PAY TO HAVE A DEVICE ATTACHED TO YOUR CAR.

This device would count how many miles you drive, and the tax would be collected as you fill up your car with gas.

The report also noted the White House was also looking into the same scheme.

This is not an administration proposal," White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said. "This is not a bill supported by the administration. This was an early working draft proposal that was never formally circulated within the administration, does not taken into account the advice of the president’s senior advisers, economic team or Cabinet officials, and does not represent the views of the president.”

Now I don't believe that Obama doesn't want something just like this. It goes right along with his Tax and Cap idea.

Incidentally, it's not just Democrats on the Federal level that want this. Several Democrats on state levels, such as Washington, have floated this idea.

Just be aware it's out there and it's another thing we have to fight.

Yay another tax that will hit the working poor the hardest.

 

[bucs90]

I gotta say, I love some Conservatives.

You guys are really getting "outraged" about a fight you already won? This isn't going to happen, it's too unpopular. Hense the reason the administration backed off it completely.

The fact they were "on it" to be able to back off it is the problem. At some point, they considered this a viable plan.

But the theme from lefties here is "The administration said they didn't support this".

Well, this admin also didn't support the hunt for Bin Laden from 2002-2009 either. Not until they could benefit from it. So go figure.

 

[editec]

Tax cars by the mile AND eliminate thye FEDERAL and STATE taxes on fuel?

Or is the plan still another tax on TOP of the taxes people already pay?

 

[Zoom-boing]

Controversial enough for a “this is not a bill supported by the administration” from the White House. However, this draft is not a sketch on a napkin. It’s a 498 page bill with all sorts of provisions and titles. Dollar amounts in the bill are consistent with the DOT’s 2012 budget request, in great detail, at the sub-sub-account level for the Federal Highway Administration. TW (Transportation Weekly) points out that those dollar amounts had to be approved by the Obama adminstration’s Office of Management and Budget. Since those figures cannot be changed at the account level without the approval of the OMB, this draft must have significant administration support despite White House denials. It came out of his Federal Highway Administration.

The War on Cars: Drive a car, we’ll tax the street [Op-Ed]

Don't know if this was mentioned but the reason for this bill was because electric vehicles and hybrids wouldn't be paying their fair share at the pump. They're looking for a way to tax those vehicles.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Another broken record playing.

One more time (for the last time......)

The proposal was included in a draft of the administration's Transportation Opportunities Act, but a White House spokesman said it "was not an administration proposal."

"This is not a bill supported by the administration," White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said. "This was an early working draft proposal that was never formally circulated within the administration, does not take into account the advice of the president’s senior advisers, economic team or Cabinet officials, and does not represent the views of the president."

White House disowns plan to tax car mileage - The Hill's Transportation Report

Then why is it attributed to the administration?

you do realize bills like this are floated around all the time, and basically dropped instantly.
Well you would realize that if you where not a raging drunk.

If it's viewed as bad policy, why do it in the first place?
Answer.....They WANT IT.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Tax cars by the mile AND eliminate thye FEDERAL and STATE taxes on fuel?

Or is the plan still another tax on TOP of the taxes people already pay?

Yes to your second question. That is in keeping with the following...Democrats never saw a tax they didn't like.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Controversial enough for a “this is not a bill supported by the administration” from the White House. However, this draft is not a sketch on a napkin. It’s a 498 page bill with all sorts of provisions and titles. Dollar amounts in the bill are consistent with the DOT’s 2012 budget request, in great detail, at the sub-sub-account level for the Federal Highway Administration. TW (Transportation Weekly) points out that those dollar amounts had to be approved by the Obama adminstration’s Office of Management and Budget. Since those figures cannot be changed at the account level without the approval of the OMB, this draft must have significant administration support despite White House denials. It came out of his Federal Highway Administration.

The War on Cars: Drive a car, we’ll tax the street [Op-Ed]

Don't know if this was mentioned but the reason for this bill was because electric vehicles and hybrids wouldn't be paying their fair share at the pump. They're looking for a way to tax those vehicles.

BINGO!!!! Wiht the the Obama admin's push on electric vehicles and the increase in CAFE mileage standards, the Obama admin realizes that with fuel consumption levels to decrease also includes a fuel tax revenue decrease, the idea is to tax miles driven to make up the difference. This is also a way for the federal government to track our movements. It also is way to determine where people reside and how far they must travel for their daily commutes. No doubt people who live in suburban and rural areas will pay a larger portion of these taxes. And which party is best represented by voters who reside in the above mentioned areas? GOP voters, that's who....
This is all very slick on the part of the democrats.
Democrats love cities. Democrats want people to live in cramped crime infested high tax urban centers. They claim suburban sprawl is polluting the earth. They claim that people should return to urban settings. Hence the invention of "smart growth" planning.
New Jersey( run by democrats) has had an "open space" policy for decades. One of the main reasons why home prices in that state are among the highest in the nation.
Portland OR came up with a smart growth plan of it's own. The plan had two purposes, one is to keep people from moving out of the city, the other is to maintain their tax base. The city govt claimed they were trying to protect the middle class. The result backfired. Home prices skyrocketed as well as proterty taxes. MIddle class people unable to afford their homes, left the city but were forced to move to far flung small towns because of the ban on building in areas close in to the central urban zone. Today Portland is home to two classes; the very wealthy who live in gated communities and other wealthy enclaves and the very poor who do not have the emans to leave. The middle class is virtually non-existent.
Another example of democrat's ignorance of the laws of unintended consequences.

 

[Greenbeard]

I gotta say, I love some Conservatives.

You guys are really getting "outraged" about a fight you already won? This isn't going to happen, it's too unpopular. Hense the reason the administration backed off it completely.

It's strange that this didn't work with healthcare.

It did--haven't you seen the backpedaling high-level Republicans have been doing over the past week or so as the full depth of the nation's opposition to Paul Ryan's proposed dismantling of Medicare has become clear?

 

[Vast LWC]

This is not an administration proposal," White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said. "This is not a bill supported by the administration. This was an early working draft proposal that was never formally circulated within the administration, does not taken into account the advice of the president’s senior advisers, economic team or Cabinet officials, and does not represent the views of the president.”

Err, what part of this quote, which was in the OP, is not understood?

Way to spread even more propaganda TPS.

 

[sitarro]

"This is not a bill supported by the administration," Think they will get it now or will they just throw this out to scare the idiots...?
Death Panels!
Internment camps!
Black Helicopters!

Idiots.[/QUOTE]

Black helicopters eh, talk to Bin Laden about black, silent helicopters...... oh wait, Barry rode one of those into the palatial compound of Osama's and personally shot him.

 

[bripat9643]

It did--haven't you seen the backpedaling high-level Republicans have been doing over the past week or so as the full depth of the nation's opposition to Paul Ryan's proposed dismantling of Medicare has become clear?

What does that have to do with Obama's healthcare abortion? Obama cut $500 billion from Medicare.

 

[yota5]

It did--haven't you seen the backpedaling high-level Republicans have been doing over the past week or so as the full depth of the nation's opposition to Paul Ryan's proposed dismantling of Medicare has become clear?

What does that have to do with Obama's healthcare abortion? Obama cut $500 billion from Medicare.

That's a good question Bripat. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it to be answered. Liberals avoid drawing attention to the truth at all costs.

I've just read the replies forward from my last post in this thread. One thing is obvious. Not one of the hysterical loons/ liberals/ socialists/ communists, that have responded to this thread have read any of the provided links. If they had they would be asking the same questions that we are. Instead these stuck on stupid liberals are reduced to a hysterical incoherent rant. That is not surprising.

Obama, policy holds catastrophic consequences for the complacent American people. We are starting to see these consequences now. Once affluent families are close to bankruptcy. Our economy is in shambles, and we have a gross incompetent in the White House that wants to tax the very air that we breath. That is our fault. We put this Gomer into the Oval Office. Obama, is having a profoundly negative impact on America. Yet, even with this giant Obama, Charlie Foxtrot going on in Washington, D.C. the far left still sings praises to the Anti-Christ, Barack Hussein Obama.

The American people only have one method of salvation available. "Get off of your dead asses, and cast an informed vote in Nov. 2012." We must get this incompetent SOB out of the White House before he damages this country to the point that it is no longer recoverable. Vote!

 

[AquaAthena]

Another broken record playing.

One more time (for the last time......)

The proposal was included in a draft of the administration's Transportation Opportunities Act, but a White House spokesman said it "was not an administration proposal."

"This is not a bill supported by the administration," White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said. "This was an early working draft proposal that was never formally circulated within the administration, does not take into account the advice of the president’s senior advisers, economic team or Cabinet officials, and does not represent the views of the president."

White House disowns plan to tax car mileage - The Hill's Transportation Report

Sure......... why shouldn't we believe White House spokes people, the've been so transparent and truthful so far? How many accounts have we heard on that Bin Laden take down? Who came up with this bullshit in the first place???? Where did it appear from? I know where it didn't come from....... it certainly didn't come from a Republican or an independent.

I am still so loving your avi of your dog. I don't know how you managed to take that great picture but in my opinion, if is frame-worthy...

 

[Wicked Jester]

What this shows is the abject lunacy of this administration to even float it out there.

The denials of a so-called Obama spokesperson deems it even more comical, seeing as though this is the most backwards, lying administration this country has ever seen.......Covering their asses has become a full time job.