Obama flips on Super Pacs, its all good now, kuze' its all about the Benjamins

[Trajan]

wouldn't you be more impressed if he was willing to fight from a position of disadvantage, if it meant keeping his integrity intact?

there's no honor in losing for stupid reasons or to unilaterally disarm.

he made the statement he did before Citizens United came down.

but he'd have to be a moron to do what you rightwingnuts want him to.

hackagggge baaaaby, winter is over, full plumage?

 

[driveby]

Isn't Obama the same asshat who disrespected the Supreme Court justices publicly over this issue? .....

 

[Trajan]

Isn't Obama the same asshat who disrespected the Supreme Court justices publicly over this issue? .....

I have no idea what you are referring to sir, you must be mistaken....

 

[Article 15]

No no no your missing the point totally dude.

Its not that he is bad for doing what republicans do...its that he is bad for doing what he said shouldn't be done.

Much like when he called bush's adding to the national debt unpatriotic and irresponsible but then went ahead and added even more to it once he was president. Hypocricy in words vs actions is the problem people have.


Make sure to read my first post in the thread too...i did admit I would do the same thing in his shoes.

Sorry the debt thing isn't going fly when he was handed a trillion dollar deficit and a failing economy to begin. There was no way in hell the debt ceiling wasn't going to be raised no matter who was President or what they did.

You are talking two entirely different situations surrounding each President and two entirely different reasons the debt was there.

Try again.

That talking point is worn out man. Doesn't fly with me at all...especially considering....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCN5-ovvFL0]FLASHBACK: Obama: My Presidency Will Be 'A One-Term Proposition' If Economy Doesn't Turn In 3 Years - YouTube[/ame]

Talking point?

Try fact, kid. What you brought was a "talking point" with zero context.

And then you double down with THAT video when you can't refute it?

I got news for ya.....the economy HAS turned the corner.

Wake up.

 

[Big Fitz]

Sorry the debt thing isn't going fly when he was handed a trillion dollar deficit and a failing economy to begin. There was no way in hell the debt ceiling wasn't going to be raised no matter who was President or what they did.

You are talking two entirely different situations surrounding each President and two entirely different reasons the debt was there.

Try again.

That talking point is worn out man. Doesn't fly with me at all...especially considering....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCN5-ovvFL0]FLASHBACK: Obama: My Presidency Will Be 'A One-Term Proposition' If Economy Doesn't Turn In 3 Years - YouTube[/ame]

Talking point?

Try fact, kid. What you brought was a "talking point" with zero context.

And then you double down with THAT video when you can't refute it?

I got news for ya.....the economy HAS turned the corner.

Wake up.

but but but... I can't 'debunk' you if I don't lie as to what that really means!

 

[The T]

Campaign finance? sorry, gotta go with the green ( first President to opt out btw, and after pledging to use that funding too tsk tsk).

Super Pacs?


CANDIDATE OBAMA: "We Will Not Take A Dime From Washington Lobbyists Or Special Interest PACs - We're Going To Change How Washington Works. They Will Not Fund My Party ..." (Sunlen Miller, "Obama Commends DNC For Cutting Lobbyist Contributions," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, 6/5/08)




Look, its all about the green, they all do it, he has given himself a get out of jail free card, its not like we are in the 2010 midterms where in he was still speaking out against super pacs, ( GOP Super Pacs were well funded) BUT its his ass on the line now, his reelection.

This is really a no brainer, but then again not everyone makes it a huge plank of their candidacy and then drops them so quickly ala Lobby grp. 'waivers' etc..... are there any 'principals' left of his to uphold? Or is the cupboard empty?


On another note, isn't it peculiar? when some Rep. who is a family values guy gets his wiener caught in the wrong place , the left it all over them (and not without some justice btw), as to their apparent sanctimony and hypocrisy.


Here? Now? Not a chance, this will sink almost immediately if it even trips anyone's wire at all anyway. How can this be?


* February 7, 2012, 12:06 AM

In a Shift, Obama Campaign Moves to Support Outside ‘Super PAC’

President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign is moving to actively support a pro-Obama group that has struggled to raise money, hoping wealthy supporters will give large contributions and counter the impact of well-funded groups doing the same for Republicans.

To encourage donations, senior campaign officials, White House aides and Cabinet members will speak at fundraising events for Priorities USA, a group started by two former White House aides. The group, a so-called “Super PAC,” is legally entitled to accept unlimited donations from individuals and corporations but has failed to raise much money. Some Democrats blame lack of overt support from Mr. Obama.

The president repeatedly railed against the influence of groups like this during the 2010 midterm elections, and he rejected outside support for his 2008 campaign. Obama campaign manager Jim Messina acknowledged the contradiction in a note posted on the campaign’s blog late Monday and said Mr. Obama would still like to change the law to bar these operations.

“But this cycle, our campaign has to face the reality of the law as it currently stands,” Mr. Messina wrote. “With so much at stake, we can’t allow for two sets of rules in this election whereby the Republican nominee is the beneficiary of unlimited spending and Democrats unilaterally disarm.”

more at
In a Shift, Obama Campaign Moves to Support Outside ‘Super PAC’ - Washington Wire - WSJ

Looks like Obama isn't getting his $1BN as he threatened...so he is taking another course by reversing course...

 

[Salt Jones]

It will make it even easier for Obama to win.

 

[Salt Jones]

Campaign finance? sorry, gotta go with the green ( first President to opt out btw, and after pledging to use that funding too tsk tsk).

Super Pacs?


CANDIDATE OBAMA: "We Will Not Take A Dime From Washington Lobbyists Or Special Interest PACs - We're Going To Change How Washington Works. They Will Not Fund My Party ..." (Sunlen Miller, "Obama Commends DNC For Cutting Lobbyist Contributions," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, 6/5/08)




Look, its all about the green, they all do it, he has given himself a get out of jail free card, its not like we are in the 2010 midterms where in he was still speaking out against super pacs, ( GOP Super Pacs were well funded) BUT its his ass on the line now, his reelection.

This is really a no brainer, but then again not everyone makes it a huge plank of their candidacy and then drops them so quickly ala Lobby grp. 'waivers' etc..... are there any 'principals' left of his to uphold? Or is the cupboard empty?


On another note, isn't it peculiar? when some Rep. who is a family values guy gets his wiener caught in the wrong place , the left it all over them (and not without some justice btw), as to their apparent sanctimony and hypocrisy.


Here? Now? Not a chance, this will sink almost immediately if it even trips anyone's wire at all anyway. How can this be?


* February 7, 2012, 12:06 AM

In a Shift, Obama Campaign Moves to Support Outside ‘Super PAC’

President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign is moving to actively support a pro-Obama group that has struggled to raise money, hoping wealthy supporters will give large contributions and counter the impact of well-funded groups doing the same for Republicans.

To encourage donations, senior campaign officials, White House aides and Cabinet members will speak at fundraising events for Priorities USA, a group started by two former White House aides. The group, a so-called “Super PAC,” is legally entitled to accept unlimited donations from individuals and corporations but has failed to raise much money. Some Democrats blame lack of overt support from Mr. Obama.

The president repeatedly railed against the influence of groups like this during the 2010 midterm elections, and he rejected outside support for his 2008 campaign. Obama campaign manager Jim Messina acknowledged the contradiction in a note posted on the campaign’s blog late Monday and said Mr. Obama would still like to change the law to bar these operations.

“But this cycle, our campaign has to face the reality of the law as it currently stands,” Mr. Messina wrote. “With so much at stake, we can’t allow for two sets of rules in this election whereby the Republican nominee is the beneficiary of unlimited spending and Democrats unilaterally disarm.”

more at
In a Shift, Obama Campaign Moves to Support Outside ‘Super PAC’ - Washington Wire - WSJ

Looks like Obama isn't getting his $1BN as he threatened...so he is taking another course by reversing course...

He's already raised over $300 million.

 

[Trajan]

Campaign finance? sorry, gotta go with the green ( first President to opt out btw, and after pledging to use that funding too tsk tsk).

Super Pacs?


CANDIDATE OBAMA: "We Will Not Take A Dime From Washington Lobbyists Or Special Interest PACs - We're Going To Change How Washington Works. They Will Not Fund My Party ..." (Sunlen Miller, "Obama Commends DNC For Cutting Lobbyist Contributions," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, 6/5/08)




Look, its all about the green, they all do it, he has given himself a get out of jail free card, its not like we are in the 2010 midterms where in he was still speaking out against super pacs, ( GOP Super Pacs were well funded) BUT its his ass on the line now, his reelection.

This is really a no brainer, but then again not everyone makes it a huge plank of their candidacy and then drops them so quickly ala Lobby grp. 'waivers' etc..... are there any 'principals' left of his to uphold? Or is the cupboard empty?


On another note, isn't it peculiar? when some Rep. who is a family values guy gets his wiener caught in the wrong place , the left it all over them (and not without some justice btw), as to their apparent sanctimony and hypocrisy.


Here? Now? Not a chance, this will sink almost immediately if it even trips anyone's wire at all anyway. How can this be?


* February 7, 2012, 12:06 AM

In a Shift, Obama Campaign Moves to Support Outside ‘Super PAC’

President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign is moving to actively support a pro-Obama group that has struggled to raise money, hoping wealthy supporters will give large contributions and counter the impact of well-funded groups doing the same for Republicans.

To encourage donations, senior campaign officials, White House aides and Cabinet members will speak at fundraising events for Priorities USA, a group started by two former White House aides. The group, a so-called “Super PAC,” is legally entitled to accept unlimited donations from individuals and corporations but has failed to raise much money. Some Democrats blame lack of overt support from Mr. Obama.

The president repeatedly railed against the influence of groups like this during the 2010 midterm elections, and he rejected outside support for his 2008 campaign. Obama campaign manager Jim Messina acknowledged the contradiction in a note posted on the campaign’s blog late Monday and said Mr. Obama would still like to change the law to bar these operations.

“But this cycle, our campaign has to face the reality of the law as it currently stands,” Mr. Messina wrote. “With so much at stake, we can’t allow for two sets of rules in this election whereby the Republican nominee is the beneficiary of unlimited spending and Democrats unilaterally disarm.”

more at
In a Shift, Obama Campaign Moves to Support Outside ‘Super PAC’ - Washington Wire - WSJ

Looks like Obama isn't getting his $1BN as he threatened...so he is taking another course by reversing course...

He's already raised over $300 million.

you betcha, pimp daddy is smoooooooth....

 

[The T]

Campaign finance? sorry, gotta go with the green ( first President to opt out btw, and after pledging to use that funding too tsk tsk).

Super Pacs?


CANDIDATE OBAMA: "We Will Not Take A Dime From Washington Lobbyists Or Special Interest PACs - We're Going To Change How Washington Works. They Will Not Fund My Party ..." (Sunlen Miller, "Obama Commends DNC For Cutting Lobbyist Contributions," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, 6/5/08)




Look, its all about the green, they all do it, he has given himself a get out of jail free card, its not like we are in the 2010 midterms where in he was still speaking out against super pacs, ( GOP Super Pacs were well funded) BUT its his ass on the line now, his reelection.

This is really a no brainer, but then again not everyone makes it a huge plank of their candidacy and then drops them so quickly ala Lobby grp. 'waivers' etc..... are there any 'principals' left of his to uphold? Or is the cupboard empty?


On another note, isn't it peculiar? when some Rep. who is a family values guy gets his wiener caught in the wrong place , the left it all over them (and not without some justice btw), as to their apparent sanctimony and hypocrisy.


Here? Now? Not a chance, this will sink almost immediately if it even trips anyone's wire at all anyway. How can this be?


* February 7, 2012, 12:06 AM

In a Shift, Obama Campaign Moves to Support Outside ‘Super PAC’

President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign is moving to actively support a pro-Obama group that has struggled to raise money, hoping wealthy supporters will give large contributions and counter the impact of well-funded groups doing the same for Republicans.

To encourage donations, senior campaign officials, White House aides and Cabinet members will speak at fundraising events for Priorities USA, a group started by two former White House aides. The group, a so-called “Super PAC,” is legally entitled to accept unlimited donations from individuals and corporations but has failed to raise much money. Some Democrats blame lack of overt support from Mr. Obama.

The president repeatedly railed against the influence of groups like this during the 2010 midterm elections, and he rejected outside support for his 2008 campaign. Obama campaign manager Jim Messina acknowledged the contradiction in a note posted on the campaign’s blog late Monday and said Mr. Obama would still like to change the law to bar these operations.

“But this cycle, our campaign has to face the reality of the law as it currently stands,” Mr. Messina wrote. “With so much at stake, we can’t allow for two sets of rules in this election whereby the Republican nominee is the beneficiary of unlimited spending and Democrats unilaterally disarm.”

more at
In a Shift, Obama Campaign Moves to Support Outside ‘Super PAC’ - Washington Wire - WSJ

Looks like Obama isn't getting his $1BN as he threatened...so he is taking another course by reversing course...

He's already raised over $300 million.

What part of $1BN didn't you understand? Was it too many zeros?

 

[Rozman]

So Obama was against it before he was for it?....
All the left wing loons here taking the GOP to task for all this money in Politics.
Now Obama and the left wing loons here that I mentioned earlier are all for it.
This from a guy who is rumored to have a billion dollars available to him for the upcoming election.

I just love the Obama ass kissers here who were against all this are now justifying
the President and his flip flopping.

Now not only is he the Food Stamp President.
He is also the flip flopping President as well....

 

[The T]

So Obama was against it before he was for it?....
All the left wing loons here taking the GOP to task for all this money in Politics.
Now Obama and the left wing loons here that I mentioned earlier are all for it.
This from a guy who is rumored to have a billion dollars available to him for the upcoming election.

I just love the Obama ass kissers here who were against all this are now justifying
the President and his flip flopping.

Now not only is he the Food Stamp President.
He is also the flip flopping President as well....

It is a message from Obama that his fundraising isn't going according to the much touted $1BN threat.

He has come up short...how embarrassed he must be now that he has to backtrack and say that he didn't mean his past rhetoric.

Soros has failed him...

 

[Salt Jones]

Looks like Obama isn't getting his $1BN as he threatened...so he is taking another course by reversing course...

He's already raised over $300 million.

What part of $1BN didn't you understand? Was it too many zeros?

Is it October? Do you even study elections?