Obama European,Mid East Trip,Political Grand Standing in its purest form.

[52ndStreet]

The Barack Obama Middle east, and Euroupean Trip, is what I call Political Grand standing in its purest form.American cities have more pertinent issues
facing them.Barack Obama chooses to Grand Stand, for the American,and foreign media.This I feel is meglamainiac politician in the making.

 

[greenpartyaz]

The Barack Obama Middle east, and Euroupean Trip, is what I call Political Grand standing in its purest form.American cities have more pertinent issues
facing them.Barack Obama chooses to Grand Stand, for the American,and foreign media.This I feel is meglamainiac politician in the making.

How about sound foreign policy, to make lasting relationships with foreign leaders to repair damage caused by this idiot in the White House!

 

[Avatar4321]

How about sound foreign policy, to make lasting relationships with foreign leaders to repair damage caused by this idiot in the White House!

You do realize that the leaders of Aghanistan, Jordan, Iraq, France, and Germany all have good relationships with the President dont you?

Hell, The Afghan and Iraqi leaders wouldn't be in power without him. President Bush took out Saddam who has always been a problem to Jordan. And both Germany and France elected Pro Bush leaders..

Who exactly did Obama meet with that Bush doesnt have a good relationship with?

 

[Chris]

You do realize that the leaders of Aghanistan, Jordan, Iraq, France, and Germany all have good relationships with the President dont you?

Hell, The Afghan and Iraqi leaders wouldn't be in power without him. President Bush took out Saddam who has always been a problem to Jordan. And both Germany and France elected Pro Bush leaders..

Who exactly did Obama meet with that Bush doesnt have a good relationship with?

The people in all those countries. Bush is universally despised around the world.

 

[Avatar4321]

The people in all those countries. Bush is universally despised around the world.

Which is why they are electing pro Bush leaders.

 

[Chris]

How about sound foreign policy, to make lasting relationships with foreign leaders to repair damage caused by this idiot in the White House!

Exactly.

The people of the world hunger for leadership from America, and they realize Obama is the best hope for that leadership.

When I talk to my friends from overseas, they can't believe that America elected a turnip like Bush.

 

[Chris]

Which is why they are electing pro Bush leaders.

Bush is universally despised......

Views on U.S. Drop Sharply In Worldwide Opinion Poll

By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, January 23, 2007; Page A14

LONDON, Jan. 23 -- Global opinion of U.S. foreign policy has sharply deteriorated in the past two years, according to a BBC poll released on the eve of President Bush's annual State of the Union address.

Nearly three-quarters of those polled in 25 countries disapprove of U.S. policies toward Iraq, and more than two-thirds said the U.S. military presence in the Middle East does more harm than good. Nearly half of those polled in Europe, Africa, Asia, South America and the Middle East said the United States is now playing a mainly negative role in the world.

More than 26,000 people were questioned for the survey.

"It's been a horrible slide," said Doug Miller, president of GlobeScan, an international polling company that conducted the BBC survey with the Program on International Policy Attitudes, an affiliate of the University of Maryland. He said views of U.S. policy have steadily declined since the annual poll began two years ago.

Views on U.S. Drop Sharply In Worldwide Opinion Poll - washingtonpost.com

 

[Charles_Main]

I have to agree it amounted to nothing but a series of Photo Opps, but then this is nothing new from Politicians. The problem is Obama is suppose to be a change, not more of the same.

 

[Charles_Main]

Bush is universally despised......

Views on U.S. Drop Sharply In Worldwide Opinion Poll

By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, January 23, 2007; Page A14

LONDON, Jan. 23 -- Global opinion of U.S. foreign policy has sharply deteriorated in the past two years, according to a BBC poll released on the eve of President Bush's annual State of the Union address.

Nearly three-quarters of those polled in 25 countries disapprove of U.S. policies toward Iraq, and more than two-thirds said the U.S. military presence in the Middle East does more harm than good. Nearly half of those polled in Europe, Africa, Asia, South America and the Middle East said the United States is now playing a mainly negative role in the world.

More than 26,000 people were questioned for the survey.

"It's been a horrible slide," said Doug Miller, president of GlobeScan, an international polling company that conducted the BBC survey with the Program on International Policy Attitudes, an affiliate of the University of Maryland. He said views of U.S. policy have steadily declined since the annual poll began two years ago.

Views on U.S. Drop Sharply In Worldwide Opinion Poll - washingtonpost.com

leave it to kirk to completely ignore the implications of the post he quotes and just post some BS poll.

Tell us Kirk why do you think several European nations have elected center right governments lately?

Before you answer I will say I think it does not have much to do with Bush. I think it has to do with the burdens that social programs like Universal health care are putting on these nations. The people are fed up with the super high taxes these programs ALWAYS require and are voting in center right governments in response. They also can see that many of these programs are financially unsustainable, and are going to bury their nations in Debt.

I find it amazing that you rail about our Deficits and Debt and cry about 700 Billion being spent on Iraq, yet support programs that will make that figure seem like peanuts.

 

[Chris]

leave it to kirk to completely ignore the implications of the post he quotes and just post some BS poll.

Tell us Kirk why do you think several European nations have elected center right governments lately?

Before you answer I will say I think it does not have much to do with Bush. I think it has to do with the burdens that social programs like Universal health care are putting on these nations. The people are fed up with the super high taxes these programs ALWAYS require and are voting in center right governments in response. They also can see that many of these programs are financially unsustainable, and are going to bury their nations in Debt.

I find it amazing that you rail about our Deficits and Debt and cry about 700 Billion being spent on Iraq, yet support programs that will make that figure seem like peanuts.

Thanks for making more stuff up. If you read the link I posted, the Canadians pay almost half per capita what we pay for healthcare, and they love their healthcare system. I have friends from Canada and they think it's great.

 

[chapstic]

The Barack Obama Middle east, and Euroupean Trip, is what I call Political Grand standing in its purest form.American cities have more pertinent issues
facing them.Barack Obama chooses to Grand Stand, for the American,and foreign media.This I feel is meglamainiac politician in the making.

When you are negotiating surrender with our enemies while there are fathers, sons, and brothers dying everyday and you are not the president of the United States, that shows how much of a pompous a.hole you really are.

 

[Avatar4321]

Exactly.

The people of the world hunger for leadership from America, and they realize Obama is the best hope for that leadership.

When I talk to my friends from overseas, they can't believe that America elected a turnip like Bush.

You really think Senator Obama is a leader? I don't. He is a pawn to his advisors. If he was a leader he would stick to positions. He would be moving opinion not letting opinion move him.

Leadership isnt moving to the will of the people, its seeing whats best for the country and then moving the country to that point.

 

[Avatar4321]

Bush is universally despised......

Views on U.S. Drop Sharply In Worldwide Opinion Poll

By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, January 23, 2007; Page A14

LONDON, Jan. 23 -- Global opinion of U.S. foreign policy has sharply deteriorated in the past two years, according to a BBC poll released on the eve of President Bush's annual State of the Union address.

Nearly three-quarters of those polled in 25 countries disapprove of U.S. policies toward Iraq, and more than two-thirds said the U.S. military presence in the Middle East does more harm than good. Nearly half of those polled in Europe, Africa, Asia, South America and the Middle East said the United States is now playing a mainly negative role in the world.

More than 26,000 people were questioned for the survey.

"It's been a horrible slide," said Doug Miller, president of GlobeScan, an international polling company that conducted the BBC survey with the Program on International Policy Attitudes, an affiliate of the University of Maryland. He said views of U.S. policy have steadily declined since the annual poll began two years ago.

Views on U.S. Drop Sharply In Worldwide Opinion Poll - washingtonpost.com

I give far more credit to voting habits than I do to polls. and the sheer fact that Iraq and Aghanistan are voting and Germany and France are voting for pro Bush leaders tells me that the countries that Obama was visiting dont hate Bush as much as youd like to think.

 

[Charles_Main]

Thanks for making more stuff up. If you read the link I posted, the Canadians pay almost half per capita what we pay for healthcare, and they love their healthcare system. I have friends from Canada and they think it's great.

what did I make up, the fact that many European nations have elected center right governments recently?

sorry kirk that is a fact not something I made up.

The rest of my post was not facts, it was thoughts, questions and Speculations. you do know the difference between that and a lie right. I was asking why you think these nations have elected center right governments.

I have friends from Canada too kirk. Everyone thinks it is great until they actually get sick, and need treatment. That is when the problems start. When your healthy or just going in for checkups everything is just fine. It is when you get sick and have to wait months on end to even be diagnosed when you might have something that is time sensitive that the problems occur. besides when you ask these friends of yours what they think of their health system, don't forget to ask them what they think of their TAXES and remind them if they say they are to high, that their health system is a large part of the reason why they are so high.

as far as your link about the per capita costs, that point is meaningless. Why? because Here in America the cost are born by insurance companies and people over there every dollar of those costs are born by their governments, and are slowly drowning them in debt, and it only promises to get worse as people get older, and live longer.

Really I thought you were smarter than this.

 

[Avatar4321]

Thanks for making more stuff up. If you read the link I posted, the Canadians pay almost half per capita what we pay for healthcare, and they love their healthcare system. I have friends from Canada and they think it's great.

No one is making anything up. France and Germany have both elected, not only pro-American leaders, but pro-Bush leaders. This tells me that the people in both France and Germany are not as anti-Bush as the left pretends to be.

Iraq and and Afghanistan wouldn't even have freely elected Leaders without President Bush. Which makes it hard to believe that those elected leaders hate the President that provided their opportunity for power.

Jordan has always had problems with Saddam, Jordanians are hardly upset with the President for taking him out. Neither are Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, or Turkey.

Israel has always been our ally and there is no need to mend what isnt broken.

India and its people freakin love President Bush. Putin gets along with President Bush despite a number of disagreements on policy. Most of the people of China probably dont even know who President Bush is let alone hate him.

I could count on my hands the number of leaders who hate the President. Most have been given more of an opportunity for prominence with their nation, the easten europeans for example have been given alot more preminence during the Bush adminsitration. African countries have recieved more financial aid from the United States than under any other administration.

I don't doubt that there are some around the world who hate President Bush. But just looking at election results from various coutries, its obvious that a majority of the hatred is nothing but spin created by the media against a President they hate. You can believe the world hates President Bush. I dont really care, but I dont see the facts supporting your position. And even if they did I certainly dont see how Senator Obama, visiting some of our closest allies and biggest Bush supporters, acting in a way to "heal" our relationships with them. There is nothing wrong with our relationship.

President Bush and the United States have been leading the world. Do you think Germany and France would have pro-Bush conservative leaders if he wasnt demonstrating strong leadership? Do you think Iraq or Afghanistan would even be free without the President's leadership? Disagree with the President all you want, but the man has been a leader whether you like his choices or not.

 

[Charles_Main]

I think there are a lot of people around the world that do indeed hate Bush. Polls indicate this. However were kirk gets it wrong, is he thinks them hating bush means they Hate the US. They all know Bush will be gone in 6 Months, and the US will still be here.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

It really doesn't make much sense (in fact, it's kind of pompous) to say that Sarkozy and Merkel's respective electoral victories are a referendum on President Bush. Beginning with the fact that both Sarkozy and Royal were advocating for closer ties to Washington, keeping in mind that the Socialists ran a ridiculous campaign, and the fact that "the right" was already incumbent- Chirac WAS the right-wing, I fail to see how France's election can be taken to mean support for the President of the US. In the case of Germany, the CDU started off the election waaaay ahead of the SDP because of the SDP's own domestic blunders, and even then the election ended up being virtually 50/50 between the CDU/CSU (Merkel) and the SDP (Schroeder), at least minimally in part due to the fact that the vast majority of Germans disagreed with Merkel's position on the Iraq war (but even more agreed with her position on opposing Turkish ascension to the EU). As for the 'it demonstrates that the ideology is more popular!', well in the end the government had to be a compromise gov., half the cabinet is from the opposition left, and the 'left' parties have some 30 seats more than the 'right' parties. In any case, it might be hard to swallow, but Bush has very little impact in other countries' elections, for any side.

EDIT: ^ Agrees with Charlie.

 

[Chris]

I think there are a lot of people around the world that do indeed hate Bush. Polls indicate this. However were kirk gets it wrong, is he thinks them hating bush means they Hate the US. They all know Bush will be gone in 6 Months, and the US will still be here.

You might want to do a little research before you post. When Bill Clinton was president, America's approval rating around the would was quite high. It has plummeted under Bush. As Obama's trip has proven, it will skyrocket once Obama is elected.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

Hmmm, grandstanding or not, it seems to have worked:

Rasmussen Reports: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

 

[Charles_Main]

You might want to do a little research before you post. When Bill Clinton was president, America's approval rating around the would was quite high. It has plummeted under Bush. As Obama's trip has proven, it will skyrocket once Obama is elected.

sure, and you just assume it will not go up under McCain as well. I would say you are wrong. Anyone will be better than Bush, and once he is gone peoples approval of us will go up. No matter who is elected.