Obama era child separations and cages

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    Many photos exist of migrant children held in "detention" during the Obama era surge in unaccompanied minors in 2014. Some of these old photos are being passed off now in the media hysteria that the Trump era border patrol are "holding children in cages"!!! The fact is that when many people cross a border they have to be processed somewhere, and that probably will not be at a Hilton or a Trump golf course. Illegal border crossers are processed at the border. The facilities that the 2018 separated children go to have been decent and humane. There is an executive order now to halt the separations. Unaccompanied minors entering the USA in 2014 were an enormous surge of about 70,000 children WITHOUT parents who travelled through Mexico without parents and and were guided by some adults and teenagers along with paid smuggler coyotes. They travelled a perilous journey on trains, buses and on foot. The families who have arrived in the recent caravan have not lost their children to "cages" which is a media lie. There are NO CAGES FOR CHILDREN NOW. Here are the OBAMA 4890b2f8d1fcdd75b3d9757c2f8a6684.jpg era "cages" and surge and separation facts: Captura-de-pantalla-2014-04-07-a-las-15.25.08.png border1-jumbo.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    from WBGH
    June 21, 2018

    On Wednesday, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to end his policy on separating families at the border. But what will happen to the thousands of children who have already been separated from their parents?

    Joining Boston Public Radio for his take on the immigration crisis — and what may happen next — was Gil Kerlikowske, head of Customs and Border Protection under President Obama. Kerlikowske is now a professor at Northeastern University.

    A partial transcript of the interview follows.

    MARGERY EAGAN: What does the executive order the president signed yesterday actually achieve?

    GIL KERLIKOWSKE: I think it's unclear. There's been an analysis done. I think starting out by saying that 'It would really be up to Congress, that this is what the law demands, that no executive order can undo what's being done' — and then to sign an executive order that actuality undoes that, makes a bit of a mockery of all the discussion that has gone on from the White House in the past month on this. It does say families will be held together and under a current settlement which goes back actually to Janet Reno days in the Department of Justice [in] the 1990s called the Flores agreement, they can only be held for 20 days. I think the administration and the Department of Justice will be looking for some relief from that 20-day period.

    JIM BRAUDE: I'm sure you have never heard what I'm about to broach, that it's all Obama's fault and it was not President Trump who started this policy of separating kids from their parents at the border, but was Barack Obama. Where does the truth lie there?

    GK: The truth is there were separations at times, by Customs and Border Protection and by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Those were when people were arrested and being charged. If you cross the border more than once and are charged, it becomes a felony and not the misdemeanor it is right now for a first-time offense. If you are involved in smuggling drugs or smuggling human beings and you have a child with you, you're going to be prosecuted and certainly that person cannot be held with their child. I'll tell you, those numbers were minuscule, tiny, compared to the number of people coming across the border who were actually separated.
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    let's pen the babies up!

     
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    Border Centers Struggle to Handle Onslaught of Young Migrants
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    A customs center in Nogales, Ariz., is struggling to care for a growing number of unaccompanied minors.CreditPool photo by Ross D. Franklin

    By Fernanda Santos
    June18, 2014
    NOGALES, Ariz. — In a 120,000-square-foot warehouse on the edge of this desert city, Border Patrol agents line up hundreds of children who may have never seen a doctor for basic vaccinations and other medical care, hand out snacks or join them for a game of basketball under a circuslike tent that doubles as a recreation room.

    In a makeshift processing center, the children — all minors caught crossing the border in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas without parents — are housed for as many as three days or more in nine holding pens. Boys are separated from girls and older children from younger ones; teenage mothers and their babies stay in a cell of their own.

    There is barely room to walk; mattresses line the concrete floor, which also has long bleachers bolted to it. The children are being transferred here from Texas because a similar site there cannot take any more.

    Customs and Border Protection officials said Wednesday that 900 children from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras were being held here — the newest arrivals still in the clothes they wore on their trek to the United States, the others clad in white T-shirts and blue shorts, as in a reformatory. On one mattress, a girl barely in her teens wept, her face buried in a soiled stuffed lamb. Nearby, a toddler smiled as she held the hand of a Border Patrol agent taking her for a walk.
    As detainees, none of the children are allowed to go outside except to exercise for 45 minutes to an hour a day.

    Chief Manuel Padilla Jr., the agent in charge of the Tucson sector of the Border Patrol, said that the agency’s goal was to keep the children safe, healthy, nourished and clean, and that a lot had been done “to achieve these priorities,” sometimes in small ways.

    When agents noticed that the children were refusing their breakfast burritos, which were made with flour tortillas, the kitchen switched to corn tortillas, like the ones used in Central America.

    On Wednesday, the Border Patrol gave reporters a first glimpse of this processing center as well as a similar one in Brownsville, Tex., both focal points in the national debate over the sudden stream of unaccompanied minors crossing illegally into the United States. From here, the children will be sent to juvenile detention facilities around the country, where efforts will be made to release them to relatives in the United States on the condition that they cooperate with deportation proceedings.

    But the swelling number of arriving youths — many of them making perilous journeys to flee gang violence in their native countries — has presented the Obama administration with political and humanitarian predicaments and started to dominate the nation’s conversation over immigration reform...
     
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      • What You Need to Know: Immigrant Family Detention
    By Lazaro Zamora

    Thursday, August 27, 2015

    The detention of immigrant parents and children since last summer’s surge of migrants arriving at the southern border has sparked a debate about the legality of immigrant family detention practices. While the treatment of immigrant minors has been protected by legal settlements and codified into law, the lack of family detention standards beyond the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) discretionary power has reignited court battles over the applicability of an 18-year old legal settlement known as the Flores Settlement Agreement. The Flores Agreement created legal standards for the detention and treatment of immigrant minors, which generally grants them a “policy favoring release” without unnecessary delays. If detained, children should be placed in the least restrictive setting possible in “unsecured” facilities licensed to care for children.

    While many immigrants’ rights groups have long claimed that Flores applies widely to family units being held in detention because of the presence of minors, both the Obama and Bush administrations have denied this in legal proceedings. Since previous court cases have been settled between defendants and the federal government, no court had previously ruled that the Flores Agreement unambiguously applied to family detention. This all changed last week, when a federal judge rejected the Obama administration’s claim that Flores did not apply and ordered that DHS release currently-detained children and their parents in accordance with the agreement.

    Family Detention Practices pre-2014

    ...Family detention refers specifically to holding unauthorized immigrant parents and children in detention facilities awaiting their immigration court hearing. According to ICE, “like single adults, family units apprehended at the border may be placed into expedited removal proceedings and detained,” but this practice has been limited because DHS generally maintained only 90-100 beds for family units in the Berks Family Residential Facility in Pennsylvania. Additionally, before the early 2000s, family units were hardly ever detained, but rather processed and released with a notice to appear at immigration court, especially if they met the credible fear of persecution criteria for a claim to asylum. After the September 11 attacks, ICE began to tighten its “catch and release” policy for all apprehended unauthorized immigrants, including family units, citing their failure to appear in court and concerns that adults were renting or taking children to pass off as a “family.” Due to lack of space, ICE began detaining parents while transferring children to the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement, which is common practice for unaccompanied children.

    Congress in 2005 became aware of the practice of separating children from their parents and directed DHS change their policy and encouraged the agency to release families or use alternatives to detention whenever possible, adding, “When detention of family units is necessary, the Committee directs DHS to use appropriate detention space to house them together.”...

    ...2014 Migrant Influx...
     
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    flash forward to the Trump era

    These are the places where infant and child migrants are held
    Posted 6:46 PM, June 20, 2018, by CNN Wire ...read this and stay up to date...NO CAGES anywhere 27513861160_2fc121f1c0_k.jpg 180620212016-01-homestead-orr-shelter-super-169.jpg DgZctoUW0AIIq7T.jpg ninos_1.jpg r.jpg tornillo10_1529947674579_46662478_ver1.0_640_360.jpg
     
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    YES, some children were separated from their families under Obama and the lawsuit against bad conditions in the family detention centers was during the Obama administration. YES, the lying media blaming this all on Trump is a farce because these things have happened before Trump. YET I think that the Trump administration should pardon the few parents of the tender age children taken as an apology for going a bit too far in that matter. The tender age situation is sad.
     
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    Progressive First Responder reporting for duty, Sir!

    Jake is set to defend ANY statement made against his Ossiah

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    Jake, you're accusing the NYTimes of photoshopping a picture?
     
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