obama: embarrased we can't speak french, but he laughs he can't speak spanish

[soosie]

Yeah, for some reason we do kiss frenchie ass but we ignore our neighbors that could potentially be more loyal - and less cowardly - allies.

But it doesn't really matter, because the language of trade should be English so we don't waste time, energy, and taxpayer money for foreigners and those who are too lazy to learn English.

 

[Indiana Oracle]

Apparently The Prophet does not read technology either. This may sound snippy, but junior also arranged to provide DVDs to the Prime Minister of the UK he could not play because they were in US vs. European format.

The whole thing about junior's coming out prom is fairly typical of a law school graduate who does not know beans from butterballs outside the bubble from which he came of age. In his case inner-city social programs and the far left political agenda.

So we rely on his handlers. And that is quite a crew.

 

[Sinatra]

Most shocking regarding the Chavez stuff is Obama's willingness to allow Chavez to enter into his space, shake hands, pose for pics, exchange gifts...good Lord. Does he not realize the mileage this South American dictator is going to get out of this weak-ass American presidents compliance?

Now, this should be a simple enough task for you if your comment is accurate. What element of Chavez's government merits the term "dictator" being applied to him?

Is this actually a serious post?

Where to begin...

-"Judicial State of Emergency" (packed Supreme court and assigned various other judges getting rid of any anti-Chavez judges)

-"Rule by Decree"

-Elimination of term limits

-Attempts to centralize all labor unions

-Use of military to quell anti-Chavez protests, most notably in 2002 which killed 100 citizens.

-Punishment of oil industry union and marauding of that industry

-In 2008 3.5 million signature referendum to remove Chavez from power deemed "invalid" by pro-Chavez appointed court.

-2005 Chavez enacts media control legislation - stories deemed "dissprespectful" to the goverment can land reporters in jail for up to 3 1/2 years.

And on and on and on...

 

[Harry Dresden]

-"Judicial State of Emergency" (packed Supreme court and assigned various other judges getting rid of any anti-Chavez judges)

-"Rule by Decree"

-Elimination of term limits

-Attempts to centralize all labor unions

-Use of military to quell anti-Chavez protests, most notably in 2002 which killed 100 citizens.

-Punishment of oil industry union and marauding of that industry

-In 2008 3.5 million signature referendum to remove Chavez from power deemed "invalid" by pro-Chavez appointed court.

-2005 Chavez enacts media control legislation - stories deemed "dissprespectful" to the goverment can land reporters in jail for up to 3 1/2 years.

And on and on and on...

to many in deep left field,this kinda stuff is the way Govt should be.....just observin....

 

[Agnapostate]

Is this actually a serious post?

Where to begin...

With factual accuracy. Doesn't seem to be much of that in your post.

-"Judicial State of Emergency" (packed Supreme court and assigned various other judges getting rid of any anti-Chavez judges)

The "judicial state of emergency" was prompted by notorious and far-reaching corruption in the court system. For instance, the Supreme Court did absolutely nothing to the similarly corrupt Jaime Lusinchi. Even during the proceedings, judges continued indulging their own corruption, as was the case when two judges threw out charges against bankers implicated in the well-remember financial scandal that had occurred several years prior. Oh, and incidentally, the Supreme Court themselves ruled that the constitutional assembly (which was constructing one of the most progressive constitutions of any state, hardly an indication of "dictatorship"), had the right to the judicial authority that they claimed.

-"Rule by Decree"

You'll need to specify what you're referring to.

-Elimination of term limits

You're actually calling this "dictatorial"? So, if I understand this correctly...an instrument that prohibits the citizenry for electing their preferred candidate as they wish is somehow more democratic than a national referendum that enabled the citizenry to vote for whomever they chose as many times as they chose? Who else is with you there in Bizarro World?

-Attempts to centralize all labor unions

Again, you'll need to specify what you're referring to.

-Use of military to quell anti-Chavez protests, most notably in 2002 which killed 100 citizens.

If you're referring to the coup violence, that is not an accurate statement. Much of the footage of the military or Chavistas allegedly shooting and killing opposition supporters was doctored. For instance, the shootings of civilian protesters on Avenida Baralt was apparently conducted by anti-government snipers, inasmuch as there was a time lapse of almost forty-five minutes between the time that they were killed and the time that the Chavistas began shooting (in self-defense). The Chavistas were returning fire against the Metropolitan Police, not shooting civilians themselves. Since propaganda using video footage of the shootings served to build support for the coup, it's dubious as to how Chavez could have possibly profited from ordering civilians killed. Incidentally, nineteen people were killed during the violence, many of them Chavistas. What does your number of "100" refer to?

-Punishment of oil industry union and marauding of that industry

I found this one especially amusing, considering that the build-up to the 2002 oil strike was characterized by "[m]ilitary rebels who overthrew a democratically elected president...out on the streets free, wearing their uniforms and openly calling for rebellion against him,"[/i] as put by Bart Jones. It was PDVSA who crippled the oil industry, with the most poignant symbol of this being the anchoring of the Pilin Leon and the similar actions of the rest of the fleet.

This comment grows even more amusing when we consider the fact that oil nationalization has promoted successful increases in economic growth, and viable socialist economic policies have also promoted social benefits in addition to this growth. As noted in The Chávez Administration at 10 Years: The Economy and Social Indicators:

The current economic expansion began when the government got control over the national oil company in the first quarter of 2003. Since then, real (inflationadjusted) GDP has nearly doubled, growing by 94.7 percent in 5.25 years, or 13.5 percent annually.

Tell me, are you an opponent of economic growth?

-In 2008 3.5 million signature referendum to remove Chavez from power deemed "invalid" by pro-Chavez appointed court.

I'm not familiar with any such referendum, but considering that it was his Constitution that granted citizens the right to recall a president (an electoral instrument that notably does not exist in the U.S., despite the fact that it was dubious that George Bush would have survived such a recall late in his term), you don't have much basis for claiming that his actions in this regard are "dictatorial."

-2005 Chavez enacts media control legislation - stories deemed "dissprespectful" to the goverment can land reporters in jail for up to 3 1/2 years.

I'm not personally in favor of the "Law of Social Responsibility for Television and Radio," but it is worth noting that it differs little from FCC regulations in several regards, such as its prohibition of broadcasting "vulgarity," sexual indecency, and forms of excessive violence during certain hours. I'm not familiar with any clause that decrees a maximum of 3 1/2 years for reporters that are "disrespectful." There was an increase in the penalty for slanderous and similarly defamatory statements, but no unique penalty was introduced by Chavez, nor did he seek to silence mere "criticism." Indeed, the Venezuelan media (owned by the financial class, and hated by the majority poor), is openly hostile towards the Chavez government, effectively endorsing the 2002 coup against him, and refusing to broadcast his cadenas that were intended to restore order.

And on and on and on...

Really? Do you have any accurate claims to share with us?

 

[PoliticalChic]

obama: embarrased we can't speak french, but he laughs he can't speak spanish

In front of photographers, Chavez gave Obama a copy of "The Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent," a book by Eduardo Galeano that chronicles U.S. and European economic and political interference in the region.

When a reporter asked Obama what he thought of the book, the president replied: "I thought it was one of Chavez's books. I was going to give him one of mine." White House advisers said they didn't know if Obama would read it or not.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs made a joke about it, noting the president doesn't speak or read Spanish: "I think it's in Spanish, so that might be a tad on the difficult side."

Obama extends hands to Chavez, Ortega at summit

obama is a high school president, nothing more

OBAMA SAYS HE DOESN’T SPEAK “AUSTRIAN.”

Well, neither do I! Plus this: “George Bush’s critics rightly roasted him for his tortured syntax and waterboarded grammar, and used it to make the claim that the graduate of both Harvard and Yale was an idiot. Well, perhaps, but I don’t recall him ever claiming that Austrian was a language. It takes a highly-esteemed intellect, it seems, to miss the fact that Austrians mainly speak German.”
Instapundit » Blog Archive » OBAMA SAYS HE DOESN’T SPEAK “AUSTRIAN.” Well, neither do I! Plus this: “George Bush’s critic…

 

[Agnapostate]

As long as he's not visiting the "Kosovians." Maybe Bush could introduce him to them.

 

[Burp]

obama: embarrased we can't speak french, but he laughs he can't speak spanish

In front of photographers, Chavez gave Obama a copy of "The Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent," a book by Eduardo Galeano that chronicles U.S. and European economic and political interference in the region.

When a reporter asked Obama what he thought of the book, the president replied: "I thought it was one of Chavez's books. I was going to give him one of mine." White House advisers said they didn't know if Obama would read it or not.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs made a joke about it, noting the president doesn't speak or read Spanish: "I think it's in Spanish, so that might be a tad on the difficult side."

Obama extends hands to Chavez, Ortega at summit

obama is a high school president, nothing more

OBAMA SAYS HE DOESN’T SPEAK “AUSTRIAN.”

Well, neither do I! Plus this: “George Bush’s critics rightly roasted him for his tortured syntax and waterboarded grammar, and used it to make the claim that the graduate of both Harvard and Yale was an idiot. Well, perhaps, but I don’t recall him ever claiming that Austrian was a language. It takes a highly-esteemed intellect, it seems, to miss the fact that Austrians mainly speak German.”
Instapundit » Blog Archive » OBAMA SAYS HE DOESN’T SPEAK “AUSTRIAN.” Well, neither do I! Plus this: “George Bush’s critic…

He'll get a pass on this. People will make excuses for his statement.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Is this actually a serious post?

Where to begin...

With factual accuracy. Doesn't seem to be much of that in your post.

-"Judicial State of Emergency" (packed Supreme court and assigned various other judges getting rid of any anti-Chavez judges)

The "judicial state of emergency" was prompted by notorious and far-reaching corruption in the court system. For instance, the Supreme Court did absolutely nothing to the similarly corrupt Jaime Lusinchi. Even during the proceedings, judges continued indulging their own corruption, as was the case when two judges threw out charges against bankers implicated in the well-remember financial scandal that had occurred several years prior. Oh, and incidentally, the Supreme Court themselves ruled that the constitutional assembly (which was constructing one of the most progressive constitutions of any state, hardly an indication of "dictatorship"), had the right to the judicial authority that they claimed.



You'll need to specify what you're referring to.



You're actually calling this "dictatorial"? So, if I understand this correctly...an instrument that prohibits the citizenry for electing their preferred candidate as they wish is somehow more democratic than a national referendum that enabled the citizenry to vote for whomever they chose as many times as they chose? Who else is with you there in Bizarro World?



Again, you'll need to specify what you're referring to.



If you're referring to the coup violence, that is not an accurate statement. Much of the footage of the military or Chavistas allegedly shooting and killing opposition supporters was doctored. For instance, the shootings of civilian protesters on Avenida Baralt was apparently conducted by anti-government snipers, inasmuch as there was a time lapse of almost forty-five minutes between the time that they were killed and the time that the Chavistas began shooting (in self-defense). The Chavistas were returning fire against the Metropolitan Police, not shooting civilians themselves. Since propaganda using video footage of the shootings served to build support for the coup, it's dubious as to how Chavez could have possibly profited from ordering civilians killed. Incidentally, nineteen people were killed during the violence, many of them Chavistas. What does your number of "100" refer to?



I found this one especially amusing, considering that the build-up to the 2002 oil strike was characterized by "[m]ilitary rebels who overthrew a democratically elected president...out on the streets free, wearing their uniforms and openly calling for rebellion against him,"[/i] as put by Bart Jones. It was PDVSA who crippled the oil industry, with the most poignant symbol of this being the anchoring of the Pilin Leon and the similar actions of the rest of the fleet.

This comment grows even more amusing when we consider the fact that oil nationalization has promoted successful increases in economic growth, and viable socialist economic policies have also promoted social benefits in addition to this growth. As noted in The Chávez Administration at 10 Years: The Economy and Social Indicators:

Tell me, are you an opponent of economic growth?



I'm not familiar with any such referendum, but considering that it was his Constitution that granted citizens the right to recall a president (an electoral instrument that notably does not exist in the U.S., despite the fact that it was dubious that George Bush would have survived such a recall late in his term), you don't have much basis for claiming that his actions in this regard are "dictatorial."

-2005 Chavez enacts media control legislation - stories deemed "dissprespectful" to the goverment can land reporters in jail for up to 3 1/2 years.

I'm not personally in favor of the "Law of Social Responsibility for Television and Radio," but it is worth noting that it differs little from FCC regulations in several regards, such as its prohibition of broadcasting "vulgarity," sexual indecency, and forms of excessive violence during certain hours. I'm not familiar with any clause that decrees a maximum of 3 1/2 years for reporters that are "disrespectful." There was an increase in the penalty for slanderous and similarly defamatory statements, but no unique penalty was introduced by Chavez, nor did he seek to silence mere "criticism." Indeed, the Venezuelan media (owned by the financial class, and hated by the majority poor), is openly hostile towards the Chavez government, effectively endorsing the 2002 coup against him, and refusing to broadcast his cadenas that were intended to restore order.

And on and on and on...

Really? Do you have any accurate claims to share with us?

told ya....to this dimwit its all ok.....things were doctored to make the tubby one look bad.....he is just a misunderstood guy,and has the citizens best interest at heart.....its people like you Nemisis in Venezuela,that make it easy for guys like this to take over.....he is doing it for the poor,the rich folk are basterds and should be oppressed.....sounds like a far leftist....

 

[Agnapostate]

told ya....to this dimwit its all ok.....things were doctored to make the tubby one look bad.....he is just a misunderstood guy,and has the citizens best interest at heart.....its people like you Nemisis in Venezuela,that make it easy for guys like this to take over.....he is doing it for the poor,the rich folk are basterds and should be oppressed.....sounds like a far leftist....

Do you have anything more than incoherent rambling to express?

 

[Iriemon]

obama: embarrased we can't speak french, but he laughs he can't speak spanish

In front of photographers, Chavez gave Obama a copy of "The Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent," a book by Eduardo Galeano that chronicles U.S. and European economic and political interference in the region.

When a reporter asked Obama what he thought of the book, the president replied: "I thought it was one of Chavez's books. I was going to give him one of mine." White House advisers said they didn't know if Obama would read it or not.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs made a joke about it, noting the president doesn't speak or read Spanish: "I think it's in Spanish, so that might be a tad on the difficult side."

Obama extends hands to Chavez, Ortega at summit

obama is a high school president, nothing more

Desparate?

 

[Harry Dresden]

told ya....to this dimwit its all ok.....things were doctored to make the tubby one look bad.....he is just a misunderstood guy,and has the citizens best interest at heart.....its people like you Nemisis in Venezuela,that make it easy for guys like this to take over.....he is doing it for the poor,the rich folk are basterds and should be oppressed.....sounds like a far leftist....

Do you have anything more than incoherent rambling to express?

a guy like Hugo would consider you Nem one of them "USEFUL IDIOTS".....they love people like you,dont see it coming, until its there.....throw you a bone,and your happy....tell you he is for YOU,not THEM....meanwhile you are too blind to see that he is fucking you right in the ass....Chavez is no different than any other DICKtator.....he is just a little more subtle in the way he goes about it.....

 

[Agnapostate]

a guy like Hugo would consider you Nem one of them "USEFUL IDIOTS".....they love people like you,dont see it coming, until its there.....throw you a bone,and your happy....tell you he is for YOU,not THEM....meanwhile you are too blind to see that he is fucking you right in the ass....Chavez is no different than any other DICKtator.....he is just a little more subtle in the way he goes about it.....

I don't think a dictator would have much use for anyone who questioned dubious claims instead of accepting them without challenge. In that regard, what say you provide some legitimate evidence for your claims?

 

[Harry Dresden]

a guy like Hugo would consider you Nem one of them "USEFUL IDIOTS".....they love people like you,dont see it coming, until its there.....throw you a bone,and your happy....tell you he is for YOU,not THEM....meanwhile you are too blind to see that he is fucking you right in the ass....Chavez is no different than any other DICKtator.....he is just a little more subtle in the way he goes about it.....

I don't think a dictator would have much use for anyone who questioned dubious claims instead of accepting them without challenge. In that regard, what say you provide some legitimate evidence for your claims?

are you going to supply some saying he isnt?

 

[Epsilon Delta]

a guy like Hugo would consider you Nem one of them "USEFUL IDIOTS".....they love people like you,dont see it coming, until its there.....throw you a bone,and your happy....tell you he is for YOU,not THEM....meanwhile you are too blind to see that he is fucking you right in the ass....Chavez is no different than any other DICKtator.....he is just a little more subtle in the way he goes about it.....

I don't think a dictator would have much use for anyone who questioned dubious claims instead of accepting them without challenge. In that regard, what say you provide some legitimate evidence for your claims?

are you going to supply some saying he isnt?

Uh... the people of Venezuela?

Venezuelan presidential election, 1998 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Venezuelan presidential election, 2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_presidential_election,_2006\

 

[Sinatra]

Is this actually a serious post?

Where to begin...

With factual accuracy. Doesn't seem to be much of that in your post.



The "judicial state of emergency" was prompted by notorious and far-reaching corruption in the court system. For instance, the Supreme Court did absolutely nothing to the similarly corrupt Jaime Lusinchi. Even during the proceedings, judges continued indulging their own corruption, as was the case when two judges threw out charges against bankers implicated in the well-remember financial scandal that had occurred several years prior. Oh, and incidentally, the Supreme Court themselves ruled that the constitutional assembly (which was constructing one of the most progressive constitutions of any state, hardly an indication of "dictatorship"), had the right to the judicial authority that they claimed.



You'll need to specify what you're referring to.



You're actually calling this "dictatorial"? So, if I understand this correctly...an instrument that prohibits the citizenry for electing their preferred candidate as they wish is somehow more democratic than a national referendum that enabled the citizenry to vote for whomever they chose as many times as they chose? Who else is with you there in Bizarro World?



Again, you'll need to specify what you're referring to.



If you're referring to the coup violence, that is not an accurate statement. Much of the footage of the military or Chavistas allegedly shooting and killing opposition supporters was doctored. For instance, the shootings of civilian protesters on Avenida Baralt was apparently conducted by anti-government snipers, inasmuch as there was a time lapse of almost forty-five minutes between the time that they were killed and the time that the Chavistas began shooting (in self-defense). The Chavistas were returning fire against the Metropolitan Police, not shooting civilians themselves. Since propaganda using video footage of the shootings served to build support for the coup, it's dubious as to how Chavez could have possibly profited from ordering civilians killed. Incidentally, nineteen people were killed during the violence, many of them Chavistas. What does your number of "100" refer to?



I found this one especially amusing, considering that the build-up to the 2002 oil strike was characterized by "[m]ilitary rebels who overthrew a democratically elected president...out on the streets free, wearing their uniforms and openly calling for rebellion against him,"[/i] as put by Bart Jones. It was PDVSA who crippled the oil industry, with the most poignant symbol of this being the anchoring of the Pilin Leon and the similar actions of the rest of the fleet.

This comment grows even more amusing when we consider the fact that oil nationalization has promoted successful increases in economic growth, and viable socialist economic policies have also promoted social benefits in addition to this growth. As noted in The Chávez Administration at 10 Years: The Economy and Social Indicators:

Tell me, are you an opponent of economic growth?



I'm not familiar with any such referendum, but considering that it was his Constitution that granted citizens the right to recall a president (an electoral instrument that notably does not exist in the U.S., despite the fact that it was dubious that George Bush would have survived such a recall late in his term), you don't have much basis for claiming that his actions in this regard are "dictatorial."



I'm not personally in favor of the "Law of Social Responsibility for Television and Radio," but it is worth noting that it differs little from FCC regulations in several regards, such as its prohibition of broadcasting "vulgarity," sexual indecency, and forms of excessive violence during certain hours. I'm not familiar with any clause that decrees a maximum of 3 1/2 years for reporters that are "disrespectful." There was an increase in the penalty for slanderous and similarly defamatory statements, but no unique penalty was introduced by Chavez, nor did he seek to silence mere "criticism." Indeed, the Venezuelan media (owned by the financial class, and hated by the majority poor), is openly hostile towards the Chavez government, effectively endorsing the 2002 coup against him, and refusing to broadcast his cadenas that were intended to restore order.

And on and on and on...

Really? Do you have any accurate claims to share with us?

told ya....to this dimwit its all ok.....things were doctored to make the tubby one look bad.....he is just a misunderstood guy,and has the citizens best interest at heart.....its people like you Nemisis in Venezuela,that make it easy for guys like this to take over.....he is doing it for the poor,the rich folk are basterds and should be oppressed.....sounds like a far leftist....

Remarkable isn't it?

It is far simpler to summarize the response as follows...

"Chaves is a socialist dictator and that is all right by me. Government should control the courts, the media, all aspects of education, all industry, and pass laws allowing it to continue in office until death or a coup..."

Yup, that about sums it up!

 

[Agnapostate]

Remarkable isn't it?

It is far simpler to summarize the response as follows...

"Chaves is a socialist dictator and that is all right by me. Government should control the courts, the media, all aspects of education, all industry, and pass laws allowing it to continue in office until death or a coup..."

Yup, that about sums it up!

I understand that you have a rather cavalier relationship with the factual record, but could you refrain from such blatant exhibition of it and at least pretend to offer arguments?

I've asked you to describe ways in which Chavez is a dictator. You offered forth a number of specious claims likely copied and pasted from the Heritage Foundation's website, and they were accordingly rebutted. The fact that you have not the means to respond further speaks volumes as to the legitimacy of your original statements.

 

[Shogun]

 

[xsited1]

Maybe Obama should visit Kenya so he can speak Swahili.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I don't think a dictator would have much use for anyone who questioned dubious claims instead of accepting them without challenge. In that regard, what say you provide some legitimate evidence for your claims?

are you going to supply some saying he isnt?

Uh... the people of Venezuela?

Venezuelan presidential election, 1998 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Venezuelan presidential election, 2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_presidential_election,_2006\

ok Eps.....here are some to counter your claims.....

Hugo Chavez, Dictator of the Month June, 2005

Debate: Is Hugo Chavez a dictator? - Politics in Latin America - Helium
http://newledger.com/2009/04/resolved-hugo-chavez-actually-is-a-dictator/
Venezuela ousts EU politician for insulting Chavez - CNN.com....

this can go on all day.....just let me know if you want more....