Obama/DNC Accusing CoC and GOP of taking Secret Foreign Money...

[teapartysamurai]

NYTimes of all places are even agreeing that Obama and his mind numbed robots have YET to provide A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that foreign money is being funnelled to republicans.

DNC Chairman Tim Kaine joins David Axelrod and President Obama in accusing the US Chamber of Commerce of taking foreign money and using it to fund campaign ads against Democratic candidates.

Note: David Axelrod and other who have made similar accusations against the Chamber have yet to provide solid evidence that foreign money is being used to fund their campaign advertisements.

Video here: RealClearPolitics - Video - DNC's Kaine: Chamber Of Commerce Is "Perversion Of System"

More about it:

CBS’s Bob Schieffer on Sunday mocked President Obama’s senior adviser David Axelrod for echoing last week’s unsubstantiated charge by a liberal website that the Chamber of Commerce is funneling foreign money to support Republican candidates.

“The New York Times looked into the Chamber specifically and said the Chamber really isn’t putting foreign money into the campaign,” said the Face the Nation host.

“This part about foreign money, that appears to be peanuts,” chided Schieffer.

When Axelrod continued to press the issue, Schieffer said almost laughing, “If the only charge, three weeks into the election that the Democrats can make is that there’s somehow this may or may not be foreign money coming into the campaign, is that the best you can do?” (video follows with transcript and commentary):

Video here: Schieffer Mocks Axelrod: Is Complaining About GOP Ad Dollars ?The Best You Can Do?? | NewsBusters.org

More about it:

The NY Times believe it or not:

In two campaign stops Thursday, Mr. Obama invoked what he portrayed as a specific new example, citing a blog posting from a liberal advocacy group as he teed off on a longtime adversary, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, over its political spending.

“Just this week, we learned that one of the largest groups paying for these ads regularly takes in money from foreign corporations,” Mr. Obama said. “So groups that receive foreign money are spending huge sums to influence American elections.”

But a closer examination shows that there is little evidence that what the chamber does in collecting overseas dues is improper or even unusual, according to both liberal and conservative election-law lawyers and campaign finance documents.

In fact, the controversy over the Chamber of Commerce financing may say more about the Washington spin cycle — where an Internet blog posting can be quickly picked up by like-minded groups and become political fodder for the president himself — than it does about the vagaries of campaign finance.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/us/politics/09donate.html?_r=2&ref=politics

I mean THIS is a hoot. THIS from the same party that took Chinese funny money HAND OVER FIST all during the 90s, and did every trick in the book to funnel foreign money to Obama in '08!

washingtonpost.com

For them to bleat about PERFECTLY legal mony coming into the Chamber of Commerce smacks of nothing more than getting close to election day desperation.

They know the USSC says it's constitional for corporations to use their free speech (in dollars), that Obama can't stop it. So they are doing their usual scortched earth. When they can't shut you up via the courts, they try via the smear and the lie.

 

[mudwhistle]

You may have already heard Obama's Teleprompter say this, or seen one of the DNC Ads...

My Question is this...

Back in 2008, there was a LARGE Chunk of ObamaInc Money that wasn't Tagged back to anyone at the time...

Secret Money, as it were.

Was that ever Clarified, or did some of that Money stay Secret?...

And was it Foreign?...

I can't seem to Find much on this now, but I Sure it's going to Surface since Obama is out Crying like a Baby about it from the other Side now.

Should be Interesting.



peace...

Merged

You do know that donations under $200 aren't reportable by name? You do know that the majority of Obama's money came from small donors? Maybe not.

As for the Chamber, they claim that they are making sure that foreign money isn't used for the ad buys. They claim that it's coming out of their general fund, thanks to Roberts decision on Citizens. Yet they admit that there are foreign entities that pay their dues to the general fund.

They need to be audited to ensure that foreign money isn't being used to influence our elections.

Sorry Dick. They checked into that false claim that most of Obama's money came from small donors while most of the GOPs donations came from large donors. They found that nearly the same percentage of large donors gave to Obama that gave to Bush, around 26%. Actually Obama had a slightly higher percentage by around one percent.

You also forget the fact that Obama kept getting these donations with weird amounts....like $195.67. Thousands and thousands of them like this that indicates the donor was converting from a foreign currency. Half of their internet donations were less then $200 so the donors didn't have to be reported.

You also forget all of the money that George Soros funnels through various organizations to the Democrats as well. I mean...really. This is a total loser for Obama...but he doesn't care. He figures folks [Like yourself] will believe the stereotypes instead of the facts.

 

[teapartysamurai]

You may have already heard Obama's Teleprompter say this, or seen one of the DNC Ads...

My Question is this...

Back in 2008, there was a LARGE Chunk of ObamaInc Money that wasn't Tagged back to anyone at the time...

Secret Money, as it were.

Was that ever Clarified, or did some of that Money stay Secret?...

And was it Foreign?...

I can't seem to Find much on this now, but I Sure it's going to Surface since Obama is out Crying like a Baby about it from the other Side now.

Should be Interesting.



peace...

Merged

You do know that donations under $200 aren't reportable by name? You do know that the majority of Obama's money came from small donors? Maybe not.

As for the Chamber, they claim that they are making sure that foreign money isn't used for the ad buys. They claim that it's coming out of their general fund, thanks to Roberts decision on Citizens. Yet they admit that there are foreign entities that pay their dues to the general fund.

They need to be audited to ensure that foreign money isn't being used to influence our elections.

Sorry Dick. They checked into that false claim that most of Obama's money came from small donors. They found that nearly the same percentage of large donors gave to Obama that gave to Bush, around 26%. Actually Obama had a slightly higher percentage by around one percent.

You also forget the fact that Obama kept getting these donations with weird amounts....like $195.67. Thousands and thousands of them like this that indicates the donor was converting from a foreign currency. Half of their internet donations were less then $200 so the donors didn't have to be reported.

You also forget all of the money that George Soros funnels through various organizations to the Democrats as well. I mean...really. This is a total loser for Obama...but he doesn't care. He figures folks [Like yourself] will believe the stereotypes instead of the facts.

As a matter of fact the Washington Post has a interesting article about the foreign money, er I mean "unusual amounts" coming to Obama.

washingtonpost.com

 

[mudwhistle]

I think Obama needs to agree to full disclosure. Billions of the Stimulus money is unaccounted for. Seems nobody knows exactly what it's being spent on and much of it is claimed to have gone into pay-offs to unions and bailouts to foreign entities instead of going to stimulate the economy. And since all of it was deficit spending most of it was borrowed from foreign countries like China, Japan, etc. So Obama has alot of nerve to accuse the GOP of doing what he's doing even though he doesn't have a shred of evidence to base his claims.

 

[hipeter924]

I think Obama needs to agree to full disclosure. Billions of the Stimulus money is unaccounted for. Seems nobody knows exactly what it's being spent on and much of it is claimed to have gone into pay-offs to unions and bailouts to foreign entities instead of going to stimulate the economy. And since all of it was deficit spending most of it was borrowed from foreign countries like China, Japan, etc. So Obama has alot of nerve to accuse the GOP of doing what he's doing even though he doesn't have a shred of evidence to base his claims.

It's a sign of political desperation, Obama knows he is screwed next Presidential election (because his policies have stuffed the economy and failed in epic proportions) so he's doing a last minute dash to try and mud sling the Republicans, as well as the tea party in the hope it gets him re-elected.

 

[Annie]

I think Obama needs to agree to full disclosure. Billions of the Stimulus money is unaccounted for. Seems nobody knows exactly what it's being spent on and much of it is claimed to have gone into pay-offs to unions and bailouts to foreign entities instead of going to stimulate the economy. And since all of it was deficit spending most of it was borrowed from foreign countries like China, Japan, etc. So Obama has alot of nerve to accuse the GOP of doing what he's doing even though he doesn't have a shred of evidence to base his claims.

It's a sign of political desperation, Obama knows he is screwed next Presidential election (because his policies have stuffed the economy and failed in epic proportions) so he's doing a last minute dash to try and mud sling the Republicans, as well as the tea party in the hope it gets him re-elected.

It is desperation and possibly crossing into abuse of power. Seems the Democrats are using the IRS and DOJ for political purposes. I may lament dirty ads and google bombs, but I will not agencies paid for by the people being used to silence a sector of the people:

Review & Outlook: Shutting Up Business - WSJ.com

* OCTOBER 10, 2010

Shutting Up Business
Democrats unleash the IRS and Justice on donors to their political opponents.

If at first you don't succeed, get some friends in high places to shut your opponents up. That's the latest Washington power play, as Democrats and liberals attack the Chamber of Commerce and independent spending groups in an attempt to stop businesses from participating in politics.
[1intimidate] Associated Press

Max Baucus

Since the Supreme Court's January decision in Citizens United v. FEC, Democrats in Congress have been trying to pass legislation to repeal the First Amendment for business, though not for unions. Having failed on that score, they're now turning to legal and political threats. Funny how all of this outrage never surfaced when the likes of Peter Lewis of Progressive insurance and George Soros helped to make Democrats financially dominant in 2006 and 2008.

Chairman Max Baucus of the powerful Senate Finance Committee got the threats going last month when he asked Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Douglas Shulman to investigate if certain tax exempt 501(c) groups had violated the law by engaging in too much political campaign activity. Lest there be any confusion about his targets, the Montana Democrat flagged articles focused on GOP-leaning groups, including Americans for Job Security and American Crossroads...

...The outrage over the Chamber is especially amusing considering the role of foreigners in U.S. labor unions. According to the Center for Competitive Politics, close to half of the unions that are members of the AFL-CIO are international. One man's corporate commingling is another's union dues.

Unions and liberal groups are hardly cash poor this year in any case. The Campaign Media Analysis Group looked at the combined spending of candidates, their parties and outside groups and found that Democrats outspent Republicans $47.3 million to $40.8 million in a recent 60-day period.

Democrats claim only to favor "disclosure" of donors, but their legal intimidation attempts are the best argument against disclosure. Liberals want the names of business donors made public so they can become targets of vilification with the goal of intimidating them into silence. A CEO or corporate board is likely to think twice about contributing to a campaign fund if the IRS or prosecutors might come calling. If Democrats can reduce business donations in the next three weeks, they can limit the number of GOP challengers with a chance to win and reduce Democratic Congressional losses.

The strategy got a test drive in Minnesota earlier this year after Target Corporation donated $100,000 cash and $50,000 of in-kind contributions to an independent group that ran ads supporting the primary candidacy of Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom Emmer. MoveOn.org accused the company of being anti-gay, organized a petition, and crafted a TV ad urging shoppers to boycott Target stores. Target made no further donations, and other companies that once showed an interest have since declined to contribute.

...Then there's the curious reference to the tax status of Koch Industries by White House chief economist Austan Goolsbee. In a late August conference call with reporters, Mr. Goolsbee cited the closely-held Koch as an example of "really giant firms" that pay no corporate income tax because they file under other tax rules. But how in the world would Mr. Goolsbee know Koch's tax status? Could his knowledge be related to the White House-liberal campaign against Koch for contributing to Americans for Prosperity, a group that is supporting free-market candidates for Congress this year?

In an August 9 speech, Mr. Obama personally trashed Americans for Prosperity, hinting that it was funded by "a big oil company." He had to mean Koch, which makes no secret of its support for Americans for Prosperity.

The White House didn't respond to queries about Mr. Goolsbee's remark for weeks until GOP Senators requested an investigation. The Treasury's inspector general for tax matters has since announced such a probe, and last week White House spokesman Robert Gibbs finally got around to explaining that Mr. Goolsbee's statement "was not in any way based on any review of tax filings" and that he won't use the example again...

 

[editec]

The (so called) American Chamber of Commerce is taking money for foreign sources to create attack ads against Dems.

Not to worry the Dems are likely ALSO taking money from foreign sources.

As long as money = frree speech, you can expect foreign money to influence domestic politics

The internationalists are winning because they know well how to manipulate the American public and how to BUY our political parties.

They control both parties, folks.

They do so under the guise of FREE SPEECH.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The fact that the Obama Admin see the U.S. Chamber of Commerce as the enemy, pretty much says it all. And he's not anti-business?

Ok.

 

[mal]

Again... Barry was just as Guilty in 2008...

This is an Amazingly SHALLOW October Surprise, and the "Free Press" should do it's Job and Call Barry out for doing it.



peace...