Obama casts Republicans as party of the rich

[Oddball]

Filthy rich? Republican John McCain thinks you need to MAKE 5 million a year to be considered rich. Obama, from writing his two books only made 5 million total. According to McCain, "Obama is NOT rich".

You guy hate Obama so much, you'll say anything. Nasty fucks.

So, who asked McWanker?..I mean besides a shameless hate mongering party man tool like you.

I'm a "hate monger"?? Piss off

From the OP: The Democrats are the party of welfare dwellers, illegal aliens, homeboys, the lazy, hippies, druggies, Wall Street, Union thugs, ambulance chasing lawyers, etc.

WALL STREET? DID HE SAY "WALL STREET"???? Oh no he didn't.

Yes, you're a hatemonger...And an insufferable as well.

Glad we could clear all this up.

 

[Yurt]

This class warfare crap is boring.. I could care less who is rich in either party.

I care more about Obama and his extreme leftist ilk.. using the government to re-distribute wealth they honestly didn't earn and have no right too.

What the right has done is make stealing "legal". Just because you make stealing legal doesn't make it "ethical".

specifics....

and how is it ONLY the right does this....

 

[daveman]

This class warfare crap is boring.. I could care less who is rich in either party.

I care more about Obama and his extreme leftist ilk.. using the government to re-distribute wealth they honestly didn't earn and have no right too.

What the right has done is make stealing "legal". Just because you make stealing legal doesn't make it "ethical".

Just so we're clear, which particular THE MAN is keeping you down?

 

[rdean]

lmao....

bill gates, warren buffet, john kerry.....

yep, the dems sure aren't rich

It's OK to be rich and the on the side of the Middle Class. Sadly, Republicans have forgotten that.

obama didn't say that...

your fail attempt to defend obama is rather embarrassing

just admit obama is worse than quayle

I'm saying it. It's OK to be rich and be on the side of the Middle Class.

Can any Republicans honestly say the leadership of the Republican Party is on the side of the American Middle Class? I mean with a straight face?

 

[daveman]

This class warfare crap is boring.. I could care less who is rich in either party.

I care more about Obama and his extreme leftist ilk.. using the government to re-distribute wealth they honestly didn't earn and have no right too.

What the right has done is make stealing "legal". Just because you make stealing legal doesn't make it "ethical".

specifics....

and how is it ONLY the right does this....

Conservatives get rich by exploiting the working man, and don't earn what they have.

Liberals get rich by helping people and deserve more than what they have.

Or so the left tells me. Yeah, I don't know how they can believe that shit, either. Probably too many recreational pharmaceuticals.

 

[rdean]

So, who asked McWanker?..I mean besides a shameless hate mongering party man tool like you.

I'm a "hate monger"?? Piss off

From the OP: The Democrats are the party of welfare dwellers, illegal aliens, homeboys, the lazy, hippies, druggies, Wall Street, Union thugs, ambulance chasing lawyers, etc.

WALL STREET? DID HE SAY "WALL STREET"???? Oh no he didn't.

Yes, you're a hatemonger...And an insufferable as well.

Glad we could clear all this up.

Truth is always insufferable to those who suffer from delusion.

Here is your list of "hate mongering": Enjoy.

From the OP: The Democrats are the party of welfare dwellers, illegal aliens, homeboys, the lazy, hippies, druggies, Wall Street, Union thugs, ambulance chasing lawyers, etc.

 

[daveman]

It's OK to be rich and the on the side of the Middle Class. Sadly, Republicans have forgotten that.

obama didn't say that...

your fail attempt to defend obama is rather embarrassing

just admit obama is worse than quayle

I'm saying it. It's OK to be rich and be on the side of the Middle Class.

Can any Republicans honestly say the leadership of the Republican Party is on the side of the American Middle Class? I mean with a straight face?

Can you say the same about the Democratic Party?

 

[Rinata]

Republicans are the biggest bunch of cheap skates I've ever seen. I wish every single one of them would lose their income and see what it's like. This has happened to so many people that have worked hard their entire lives and now they are losing everything. Do Republicans care?? Hell no!!! Not one ounce of empathy in any of them.

 

[Oscar Wao]

The Democrats and the Republicans are the parties of the "rich." The whole party vs. party thing is just for Hegelian smoke and mirrors.

 

[Oddball]

Republicans are the biggest bunch of cheap skates I've ever seen. I wish every single one of them would lose their income and see what it's like. This has happened to so many people that have worked hard their entire lives and now they are losing everything. Do Republicans care?? Hell no!!! Not one ounce of empathy in any of them.

Good thing progressive Fabian socialist agitators aren't bitter, angry or vindictive, huh?

 

[Oscar Wao]

Republicans are the biggest bunch of cheap skates I've ever seen. I wish every single one of them would lose their income and see what it's like. This has happened to so many people that have worked hard their entire lives and now they are losing everything. Do Republicans care?? Hell no!!! Not one ounce of empathy in any of them.

And you think the Democrats DO care about those who are down on their luck? Just because they pass some shiny nice legislation that's a seemingly nice fix? Please.

 

[daveman]

Republicans are the biggest bunch of cheap skates I've ever seen. I wish every single one of them would lose their income and see what it's like. This has happened to so many people that have worked hard their entire lives and now they are losing everything. Do Republicans care?? Hell no!!! Not one ounce of empathy in any of them.

Free your mind, and the rest will follow.

They include these findings:

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

-- Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

-- In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

-- People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

 

[rdean]

This class warfare crap is boring.. I could care less who is rich in either party.

I care more about Obama and his extreme leftist ilk.. using the government to re-distribute wealth they honestly didn't earn and have no right too.

What the right has done is make stealing "legal". Just because you make stealing legal doesn't make it "ethical".

specifics....

and how is it ONLY the right does this....

In the world of the right wing, everything is "either/or", "black or white", right or wrong".

They live in a world of "absolutes".

Notice, no one said, "Only the right", yet someone from the right, in what they imagine to be a "clever" move, attempts to "sneak" that into the discussion.

 

[Lumpy 1]

What the right has done is make stealing "legal". Just because you make stealing legal doesn't make it "ethical".

specifics....

and how is it ONLY the right does this....

In the world of the right wing, everything is "either/or", "black or white", right or wrong".

They live in a world of "absolutes".

Notice, no one said, "Only the right", yet someone from the right, in what they imagine to be a "clever" move, attempts to "sneak" that into the discussion.

Sheez.. It's nice to know people can tell me how I think.. otherwise.. I just may be confused....

 

[Yurt]

What the right has done is make stealing "legal". Just because you make stealing legal doesn't make it "ethical".

specifics....

and how is it ONLY the right does this....

In the world of the right wing, everything is "either/or", "black or white", right or wrong".

They live in a world of "absolutes".

Notice, no one said, "Only the right", yet someone from the right, in what they imagine to be a "clever" move, attempts to "sneak" that into the discussion.

so you can't give specifics to back up your claim....

and it is only logical to assume YOU mean only right, you have YET to say this about the left

try some honesty and then get back to me

 

[rdean]

Republicans are the biggest bunch of cheap skates I've ever seen. I wish every single one of them would lose their income and see what it's like. This has happened to so many people that have worked hard their entire lives and now they are losing everything. Do Republicans care?? Hell no!!! Not one ounce of empathy in any of them.

Free your mind, and the rest will follow.

They include these findings:

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

-- Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

-- In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

-- People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

I love it when the right comes up with these "lop sided" statistics. They give to churches, they must be "good".

Then you look at Organizations, such as the National Endowment for the Arts. Sure, there are conservatives who give them money, like Deedie and Rusty Rose and others. They don't just bring "art" to rural areas, inner cities, and military bases. They "teach".

Do you see conservatives giving money to women's shelters and shelters for abused gay children? Not me.

How about to animal shelters for strays that have been tortured and abused? Conservatives want to "hunt" animals, not care for them.

Charity - give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.

Foundations - TEACH a man to fish and he will feed his family.

 

[Charles_Main]

Republicans are the biggest bunch of cheap skates I've ever seen. I wish every single one of them would lose their income and see what it's like. This has happened to so many people that have worked hard their entire lives and now they are losing everything. Do Republicans care?? Hell no!!! Not one ounce of empathy in any of them.

Free your mind, and the rest will follow.

They include these findings:

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

-- Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

-- In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

-- People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

I love it when the right comes up with these "lop sided" statistics. They give to churches, they must be "good".

Then you look at Organizations, such as the National Endowment for the Arts. Sure, there are conservatives who give them money, like Deedie and Rusty Rose and others. They don't just bring "art" to rural areas, inner cities, and military bases. They "teach".

Do you see conservatives giving money to women's shelters and shelters for abused gay children? Not me.

How about to animal shelters for strays that have been tortured and abused? Conservatives want to "hunt" animals, not care for them.

Charity - give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.

Foundations - TEACH a man to fish and he will feed his family.

Here is a statistic for you. Granting you that Bush Added 5 Trillion to the Debt over 8 years, and ignoring the fact that Democrats controlled congress for the last 2 years and help add to that number. That means that Bush added about 675 Billion per year for 8 Years.

now explain to me how Obama adding 2.7 Trillion in 18 months is better? That is a pace of 1.8 Trillion a year, and going by Obama's own Projections which are sure to be low. That means if he had 8 Years he would add about 10 Trillion to the debt. in 2 terms. or roughly 2 times as much as Bush. so once again please explain how Obama and the Dems have been so much better?

 

[rdean]

specifics....

and how is it ONLY the right does this....

In the world of the right wing, everything is "either/or", "black or white", right or wrong".

They live in a world of "absolutes".

Notice, no one said, "Only the right", yet someone from the right, in what they imagine to be a "clever" move, attempts to "sneak" that into the discussion.

so you can't give specifics to back up your claim....

and it is only logical to assume YOU mean only right, you have YET to say this about the left

try some honesty and then get back to me

Don't be such an idiot. What is with you guys? Are you so blinded by ideology you can't think for your selves? Why don't you go fucking look????????????????

Look at insurance companies. They don't make anything, they don't own any hospitals. They don't employ any doctors or nurses. They "contract" for services.

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Wendell Potter, who retired as CIGNA's vice president

Stinging Words For Health Insurers - Hartford Courant

He said he was not speaking out because of any grudge against CIGNA. The company treated him well with "lots of bonuses" over the years and persuaded him to stay longer than he'd planned, he said.

But he said he has had a growing feeling in recent years "that the health insurance industry was taking the country in the wrong direction and was directly contributing to the problem of the uninsured and under-insured in the country." The industry, he said, "is not part of the solution as they want us to believe; they are part of the problem."

Potter, for instance, recalled a trip on a corporate jet from Philadelphia, where CIGNA is headquartered, to Connecticut, where the company's health insurance business is based in Bloomfield. During the flight, he was served lunch on gold-rimmed china with a gold-plated knife and fork.

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Cigna is just one Insurance company. The money they get is from "skimming" off insurance policies. The Cigna CEO was paid 73 MILLION dollars. How many insurance policies does it take to pay one 73 million dollar salary? The fuckers.

They own TWO corporate jets. 5 Cigna executives are in the top 50 highest paid executives in the US.

And just to show how incredibly STUPID and IDIOTIC the right is, they will defend "pre existing conditions" as, "Well, the insurance company shouldn't have to pay for someone who was sick BEFORE they got their policy. OK, that makes sense. Then look at the fucking FACTS.

If the father of a family of four gets cancer, and one of the kids has an "allergy", the ENTIRE family could be be dropped for having a "PRE EXISTING CONDITION" - the allergy.

This is one of the loop holes the health care bill plugs and Republicans are so fucking STUPID, they don't even know it.

So there it is. All perfectly legal. But is it ethical? Do Republicans know what the word "ethical" even means?

And another example??????

The health care bill had "end of life counseling" that Republicans called "death panels", chief among them, Sarah Palin. As governor, Sarah Palin signed a bill in Alaska making April 16th 2008, "Health Care Decisions Day" that was all about "end of life counseling". Yep, she was FOR it before she was AGAINST it.

Palin Backed End-of-Life Counseling As Alaska Governor | The Public Record

So pardon me if I think the Republican base is most incredibly stupid and ignorant bunch of lemming ever to make up a political party.

And you think those are the ONLY examples I have? Think again fool. Go look up "OSHA" and the "EPA" and "deregulation" and the Republican majority early in Bush's first term and what "voluntary compliance" means and how it connects to mine disasters and oil wells.

And I think I'll stop here, but believe me, I could go on all night. How much of Bush two terms were both houses controlled by the Republican "elite"? And what EXACTLY did they do? We know they didn't work on immigration. We know they didn't work on mine safety. WHAT EXACTLY DID THEY "ACCOMPLISH"???? Think about it!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rdean]

Free your mind, and the rest will follow.

I love it when the right comes up with these "lop sided" statistics. They give to churches, they must be "good".

Then you look at Organizations, such as the National Endowment for the Arts. Sure, there are conservatives who give them money, like Deedie and Rusty Rose and others. They don't just bring "art" to rural areas, inner cities, and military bases. They "teach".

Do you see conservatives giving money to women's shelters and shelters for abused gay children? Not me.

How about to animal shelters for strays that have been tortured and abused? Conservatives want to "hunt" animals, not care for them.

Charity - give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.

Foundations - TEACH a man to fish and he will feed his family.

Here is a statistic for you. Granting you that Bush Added 5 Trillion to the Debt over 8 years, and ignoring the fact that Democrats controlled congress for the last 2 years and help add to that number. That means that Bush added about 675 Billion per year for 8 Years.

now explain to me how Obama adding 2.7 Trillion in 18 months is better? That is a pace of 1.8 Trillion a year, and going by Obama's own Projections which are sure to be low. That means if he had 8 Years he would add about 10 Trillion to the debt. in 2 terms. or roughly 2 times as much as Bush. so once again please explain how Obama and the Dems have been so much better?

Where did the debt come from and what did Obama spend the money on?

Obama added the cost of two wars as well as the cost of the Bush tax cuts into his budget. The first honest budget in 9 years.

The country was losing 750,000 jobs a week. The Dow dropped 4,000 points. Do you have even the smallest clue what this means?

Look at where we were, look at where we are now. Think about where we could have been without Obama's economic policies.

And now Republicans want to withhold unemployment benefits? Think about what that would do to the economy.

And Republicans fucking apologized to BP and want American citizens to pay for the clean up????? Think about what THAT means.

After you've thought about these things, come back and we can have a "real" discussion.

 

[Charles_Main]

I love it when the right comes up with these "lop sided" statistics. They give to churches, they must be "good".

Then you look at Organizations, such as the National Endowment for the Arts. Sure, there are conservatives who give them money, like Deedie and Rusty Rose and others. They don't just bring "art" to rural areas, inner cities, and military bases. They "teach".

Do you see conservatives giving money to women's shelters and shelters for abused gay children? Not me.

How about to animal shelters for strays that have been tortured and abused? Conservatives want to "hunt" animals, not care for them.

Charity - give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.

Foundations - TEACH a man to fish and he will feed his family.

Here is a statistic for you. Granting you that Bush Added 5 Trillion to the Debt over 8 years, and ignoring the fact that Democrats controlled congress for the last 2 years and help add to that number. That means that Bush added about 675 Billion per year for 8 Years.

now explain to me how Obama adding 2.7 Trillion in 18 months is better? That is a pace of 1.8 Trillion a year, and going by Obama's own Projections which are sure to be low. That means if he had 8 Years he would add about 10 Trillion to the debt. in 2 terms. or roughly 2 times as much as Bush. so once again please explain how Obama and the Dems have been so much better?

Where did the debt come from and what did Obama spend the money on?

Obama added the cost of two wars as well as the cost of the Bush tax cuts into his budget. The first honest budget in 9 years.

The country was losing 750,000 jobs a week. The Dow dropped 4,000 points. Do you have even the smallest clue what this means?

Look at where we were, look at where we are now. Think about where we could have been without Obama's economic policies.

And now Republicans want to withhold unemployment benefits? Think about what that would do to the economy.

And Republicans fucking apologized to BP and want American citizens to pay for the clean up????? Think about what THAT means.

After you've thought about these things, come back and we can have a "real" discussion.

LOL you are hopeless. First off you Dems love to ignore the fact the Dems controlled both houses of Congress and the purse stings for Bushes last 2 terms. Coincidentally Shortly after they were in power the Economic Decline began. A decline Driven by bad loans fought for tooth in nail by your beloved Dems. You know the ones who told us Fanny and Freddie were doing just fine. Your selective memory is getting the best of you.

Obama spent the money on a bunch of stimulus that did not work the way it was advertised, and programs that will continue to grow and add to the debt like a health care plan that does not cover everyone, and will not deliver on it's promise of lowering costs. His future Deficit projections are very much understated and anyone with half a brain can see it. There is no justification for it other than that that exists in your hopelessly biased mind. We have 4 million less jobs now than when he took office. We are more divided than ever before. We are not out of Iraq, Afghanistan is a mess. Gitmo is still open.

I could go on but you get my point.

Just what is it you like about this guy. I just do not get it.