Obama = Carter Part II ??

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He appointed the man who killed stagfaltion.

Ford has more blood on his hands for creating the stagflation than Cater does.

Not sure about more - but certainly he was part of it - as was Nixon for that matter.

What Carter had though that Ford and Nixon did not was overwhelming majorities in both the House and Senate. He was unable to lead his own party, due in great part to the rampant chaos within his administration.

Thus, the comparisons between he and Obama are to this point acceptable. In Obama's favor, he has another few months to get this train back on track. If he does not do so, it will prove increasingly difficult for him.
 
And how does that justify the crap in the Stimulus bill? You can't blame that on Bush... It's fully on the Democrats and the one leading them. Obama isn't leading... He's letting the radical left lead. This is blowing up in his face more and more each day.
 
And how does that justify the crap in the Stimulus bill? You can't blame that on Bush... It's fully on the Democrats and the one leading them. Obama isn't leading... He's letting the radical left lead. This is blowing up in his face more and more each day.


You are very much to the point - and absolutely correct.

His first attempt at critical legislation has been disastrous up to this point.
 
Carter's problem was not the Republicans .

I truly believe that HW Bush, CIA DIRECTOR at the time, made a deal with the Iranians to keep the hostages until after the election.

That's why he was made VP.

If you search, you'll find out that the Bush families assets were frozen for dealing with the Nazi's in WW2 and it is clear today that they do business with the Bin Ladins.

Carter was winning until the Iran hostage thing.

And then later Reagan/Ollie North got busted on the Iran/Contra scandal.

Do you have to be a conspiracy theorist to figure this out?

This is where the term October Surprise comes from.

PS. The media isn't liberal either. They may appear to be at times, but there are certain things the corporate/mainstream media just will never tell you. One thing is that Bush was lying about WMD's.

Another one would be that it was Chaney sending anthrax out. Who got Anthraxed? Daschel & Leahy? Two men trying to stop the Patriot Act.

And what evidence did Chaney have that it was Saddam who was mailing out anthrax? So there is proof that at least Chaney is a big fat fucking liar.

Plus they said they could have never imagined flying planes into buildings, but then we find out they were briefed on exactly that.

I know, I'm :cuckoo:

I won't discuss your mental health, but your post is made up entirely of speculations aimed at demonizing Republicans and excusing Democrats of any responsibility for anything that went wrong.

Getting back to the topic of the thread, Carter, like Obama, campaigned on the promise of change against a badly bruised Republican Party after an unpopular war and amid growing economic woes and the Democrats won both Houses of Congress as well as the White House. The Congressional Democrats then clamored to dismantle much of the security apparatus that Democrat and Republican presidents had built up since WWII, and despite falling government revenues they demanded Carter support expensive social welfare programs. So far the parallels are inescapable.

Carter who was less liberal than many of the Party's leaders was caught between impossible demands from the Congressional Democrats and staunch opposition from the Republicans, and he was finally done in by his own naiveté and clumsiness in dealing with worsening conditions in Iran and with the Soviet Union. Now Obama can "Carter out" in four years or he can quickly learn that the first thing he must do is assert control over his own party so that he will not always be playing defense against Congressional Democrats as well as Republicans and set ideology aside in favor of taking a pragmatic approach to encouraging the economy to recover from the recession as well as the underlying financial crisis and to deal with foreign policy issues in a way that will best advance America's interests even if such actions would seem to violate his own personal beliefs about justice.

Carter failed at the first and third of these items and he was skewered by liberal Democrats for taking a pragmatic approach to the economy. So far, Obama has failed to take control of the Party and we don't yet know what his approach to the economy or foreign policy will be.

The Democrats don't need to change, the GOP does.

You want Obama to cater to the GOP.

Boy would you love that.

Give it time. Obama has a plan.

PS. The only thing stopping Obama's progress forward is the Grand Obstructionist Party.

Blue Dog Democrats are going to vote the way their constituents want them to vote. That's the way it should be. That's something the GOP didn't do. That's why soooo many of them lost their jobs. They voted with Tom Delay, unless the bill was going to pass anyways and it was realllly unpopular back home. Then Delay allowed would allow them to vote against the bill.

PS. Bush didn't veto one bill from 2000-2006 and Bush got everything he wanted from them for 6 years.

So either those policies are going to come to the rescue any day now, or you guys are full of shit when you deny your parties policies led us to this Depression.
 
After the spectacle of failure this past couple weeks, folks are starting to wonder if this kid Obama is gonna be Carter Part II.

For those of you who can recall the dark days of the Carter administration, is it back to the future with Obama?



This board needs to have some ads for viagra and adult dependes undergarmets.

There are a ton of people here, particuarly on the rightwing who are ancient. Most of them seem to have traumautic adulthood memories of the Carter admin. Are there any republicans under the age of 50 here?
 
And how does that justify the crap in the Stimulus bill? You can't blame that on Bush... It's fully on the Democrats and the one leading them. Obama isn't leading... He's letting the radical left lead. This is blowing up in his face more and more each day.


You are very much to the point - and absolutely correct.

His first attempt at critical legislation has been disastrous up to this point.

They don't get that they where put there not to bring about radical left but just for a change. Not so that the county can do a radical swing.

I personally find that life runs better when the Congress is one party and the President is another. The more we keep DC's hands tied up the better we are.
 
And how does that justify the crap in the Stimulus bill? You can't blame that on Bush... It's fully on the Democrats and the one leading them. Obama isn't leading... He's letting the radical left lead. This is blowing up in his face more and more each day.

We tried it your way for 8 years and it didn't work. We justify the "crap" because it is "crap" we believe in. And it will get the economy going.

Every dollar we spend brings back $1.80 (making up the numbers)

Every dollar you give in a tax break brings back $1.03 (making up the numbers, but you get the general idea)

So fuck your tax breaks. You've already given enough out. But we can't take them away or the corporations will make things worse.

This economy is proof you aren't free. The bankers own/control you. You even accept paper for currency. Paper that isn't backed by anything. Are you in debt? How much of your life savings/401k is gone? How much in debt are you (car and home and cc)?

Free my ass.

The GOP refer to you as Rabble.
 
After the spectacle of failure this past couple weeks, folks are starting to wonder if this kid Obama is gonna be Carter Part II.

For those of you who can recall the dark days of the Carter administration, is it back to the future with Obama?



This board needs to have some ads for viagra and adult dependes undergarmets.

There are a ton of people here, particuarly on the rightwing who are ancient. Most of them seem to have traumautic adulthood memories of the Carter admin. Are there any republicans under the age of 50 here?

That would be me.

Mr. Obama is quite a bit older than I - and need I remind you, not too far off from 50 himself.
 
And how does that justify the crap in the Stimulus bill? You can't blame that on Bush... It's fully on the Democrats and the one leading them. Obama isn't leading... He's letting the radical left lead. This is blowing up in his face more and more each day.


You are very much to the point - and absolutely correct.

His first attempt at critical legislation has been disastrous up to this point.

They don't get that they where put there not to bring about radical left but just for a change. Not so that the county can do a radical swing.

I personally find that life runs better when the Congress is one party and the President is another. The more we keep DC's hands tied up the better we are.

We need to fix what the GOP did for the last 8 years. Can't even get er done with the majorities we have now. But we'll get er done.

You guys :lol: He was sworn in on 1-20 and today is 2-6.

And what do you care? Obstruct until the whole system implodes. You said that is what should have happened anyways. So Obama is doing the right thing as far as you are concerned.

I just think you love to see Obama/America fail. Traitor!! You and Rush Limpballs.

PS. There is nothing "radically left" going on. The GOP won't allow any social spending. They'll bitch about anything the Dems try to do.

And they only come back with "more tax breaks"

Boy, the GOP won't be happy until they bankrupt the treasury/social security.

I can't wait to try and pass healthcare legislation. It'll be tough with you obstructionists.

Or is that too far left radical for you?


You guys are the majority, so shut the F up. :eusa_pray:
 
After the spectacle of failure this past couple weeks, folks are starting to wonder if this kid Obama is gonna be Carter Part II.

For those of you who can recall the dark days of the Carter administration, is it back to the future with Obama?



This board needs to have some ads for viagra and adult dependes undergarmets.

There are a ton of people here, particuarly on the rightwing who are ancient. Most of them seem to have traumautic adulthood memories of the Carter admin. Are there any republicans under the age of 50 here?

I'm 37 years old. I was born March 1971.
 
After the spectacle of failure this past couple weeks, folks are starting to wonder if this kid Obama is gonna be Carter Part II.

For those of you who can recall the dark days of the Carter administration, is it back to the future with Obama?



This board needs to have some ads for viagra and adult dependes undergarmets.

There are a ton of people here, particuarly on the rightwing who are ancient. Most of them seem to have traumautic adulthood memories of the Carter admin. Are there any republicans under the age of 50 here?

I'm 37 years old. I was born March 1971.

Yes, the witless attempts to catagorize any conservative as "old".

Has anyone not seen Democrat Robert Byrd these days? Yikes.
 
After the spectacle of failure this past couple weeks, folks are starting to wonder if this kid Obama is gonna be Carter Part II.

For those of you who can recall the dark days of the Carter administration, is it back to the future with Obama?



This board needs to have some ads for viagra and adult dependes undergarmets.

There are a ton of people here, particuarly on the rightwing who are ancient. Most of them seem to have traumautic adulthood memories of the Carter admin. Are there any republicans under the age of 50 here?

Are there any Republicans under the age of 50 anywhere?

I don't count Red states. I'm sure there are lots in W. Virginia.
 
After the spectacle of failure this past couple weeks, folks are starting to wonder if this kid Obama is gonna be Carter Part II.

For those of you who can recall the dark days of the Carter administration, is it back to the future with Obama?



This board needs to have some ads for viagra and adult dependes undergarmets.

There are a ton of people here, particuarly on the rightwing who are ancient. Most of them seem to have traumautic adulthood memories of the Carter admin. Are there any republicans under the age of 50 here?

Are there any Republicans under the age of 50 anywhere?

I don't count Red states. I'm sure there are lots in W. Virginia.

Attempts to be cute are difficult when the bias is so ugly.
 

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