Obama blames politics for delay on immigration

[WillowTree]

obie wan is an asswipe and not cut out for the job. He needs to go golfing or something.

Yeah, we've heard you the 10000x times you posted this. But it follows your usual posting format. Insults, lack of rational thought and no value added to the thread. Thanks for your deep insight though.

link to the other 999 please? In veiw of the above statement I'm sure you are more than willing to back up your assholery.. 1...2...3... Go.

 

[WillowTree]

I didn't realize there WAS a delay in immigration.

They pour through like an open spigot.

No delay

I'm betting all the poor sukka's that have been trying to do it legally have said what the fuck,, and joined the other millions pouring over the border illegaly.

 

[hortysir]

I didn't realize there WAS a delay in immigration.

They pour through like an open spigot.

No delay

I'm betting all the poor sukka's that have been trying to do it legally have said what the fuck,, and joined the other millions pouring over the border illegaly.

In a rush to be eligible for the amnesty

 

[WillowTree]

When talking about illegal aliens, President Obama said:
"The overwhelming majority of these men and women are simply seeking a better life for
themselves and their children."

Clearly, President Obama is either not aware that, or does not care that, there are 15 million unemployed Americans who are "simply seeking a better life for themselves and their children" by looking for a job. He must also be unaware that 8 million illegal aliens have full-time jobs,thereby keeping 8 million Americans out of work. Any amnestying of these illegal aliens would prevent millions of American families from attaining a "better life."

Well what more do you expect from a clueless man who attended a church for 20 years and didn't hear a word the racist preacher said?

 

[hortysir]

Let's get some sanity into this discussion.

(1) The Border can be secured in at least a year. No more than that if the administration moves tomorrow. Anyone who argues against this knows that s/he is arguing straw proposals.

(2) To suggest that Americans can are going to take the jobs of illegals without the wages going up is simply not the truth.

(3) Neither party wants the illegals to go home: GOP wants cheap labor for Big Business, Dems want future voters.

Re: #2

Examples?

 

[WillowTree]

Remind me the last time Republicans took the blame for anything they did wrong? It's a two way street. Please don't pretend like republicans are perfect.

Your right, it is getting old.

Great comeback.... "Oh yeah well the Republicans did this"... Give me a break already....What is this grade school??????

RDD must mean R eading Deficit Disorder. donchyaknow?

 

[WillowTree]

or RDD could mean R eally Deep D oo Doo

 

[Brubricker]

Let's get some sanity into this discussion.

(1) The Border can be secured in at least a year. No more than that if the administration moves tomorrow. Anyone who argues against this knows that s/he is arguing straw proposals.

(2) To suggest that Americans can are going to take the jobs of illegals without the wages going up is simply not the truth.

(3) Neither party wants the illegals to go home: GOP wants cheap labor for Big Business, Dems want future voters.

Re: #2

Examples?

Forget it. I already pushed him for specifics and he came up empty. He's just making shit up out of thin air.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Let's get some sanity into this discussion.

(1) The Border can be secured in at least a year. No more than that if the administration moves tomorrow. Anyone who argues against this knows that s/he is arguing straw proposals.

(2) To suggest that Americans can are going to take the jobs of illegals without the wages going up is simply not the truth.

(3) Neither party wants the illegals to go home: GOP wants cheap labor for Big Business, Dems want future voters.

Re: #2

Examples?

Forget it. I already pushed him for specifics and he came up empty. He's just making shit up out of thin air.

I am working on the ConModelArgument: make up assertions then require others to rebut them.

Not very fun, is it?

 

[Flopper]

Is he EVER going to take responsibility...FOR ANYTHING????

Well, of course he will take responsibility for anything that goes well... Everything that goes wrong is the fault of Republicans and everything that goes right is because the Messiah did it....Sheeze... This is getting old.

He's been President for 1.5 years, has control of the house and Senate, and still can't anything done... He had to buy off votes in his own party to get health care done... He is an embarrassment.


Obama blames politics for delay on immigration - Yahoo! News

You may not agree with Obama but he has got some major legislation passed. The healthcare bill is the most important piece of healthcare legislation since Medicare. The financial reform bill is the most significant financial regulation since the 30's. If he gets immigration reform through, he will have done what none of his predecessors could do. The Republicans can't allow him this victory. Irregardless of what's in the immigration bill, Republicans will vote against it.

Just because he's got legislation through doesn't mean it's good legislation.

The people who voted for him, don't consider this bad legislation. It gave them a lot of what they wanted. They are certainly not going to support the party that says they will try to reverse what he has done.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right wing of the GOP does not realize that it is a small minority of Americans, and growing even smaller every years as America grows younger and darker. It has alienated African Americans (edit: and Hispanics), who make up more than 25% of the voters. Women historically are more comfortable with the Dems. White males make up only 33% of voters. So . . . either the GOP dumps its leadership and remakes itself, or it will be the bastard minority for the rest of its miserable existence. Then a new, far more responsible conservative party will rise. Good.

 

[hortysir]

The far right wing of the GOP does not realize that it is a small minority of Americans, and growing even smaller every years as America grows younger and darker. It has alienated African Americans, who make up more than 25% of the voters. Women historically are more comfortable with the Dems. White males make up only 33% of voters. So . . . either the GOP dumps its leadership and remakes itself, or it will be the bastard minority for the rest of its miserable existence. Then a new, far more responsible conservative party will rise. Good.

98.345% of statistics are made up.
Ya got links for all those stats?

 

[JakeStarkey]

98.345% of statistics are made up.
Ya got links for all those stats?

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Yes, they are easily retrievable. They are also well known. When I first voted, white American males made up over 50% of the public that voted. The demographic has lost more than 1/3rd of its punch in a bit more than 30 years. Do a demographic analysis, and one quickly realizes that the Tea Party is the 'last hurrah' of the traditional right, which is growing older and grayer and will pass it away.

The numbers always control.

 

[MaggieMae]

Republicans rarely screw things up to take blame for. Some liberal repubs do, but its rare. Everything the libs and socialists do screws up our country, but they never own up to it.

Also, when Republicans are caught cheating or the like they are usually booted from the party in disgrace, unlike Dems who just ignore any wrong-doing by their own.

No one is saying Republicans are perfect, but when one party is right 95% of the time and the other is wrong 95% of the time, its easy to see who should take the blame for screwing things up.

Hell, the Dems had a Klansman as their elder statesman! And their other hero had a male prostitution ring running out of his apartment!

But this is OK.... Because they are Democrats...

That whole exchange is pure bullshit. If Republicans were "right" 95% of the time, they wouldn't have lost so many of THEIR seats so that the dems gained a majority. In congress, the Republicans don't fare any better or worse than Democrats.

Congress: Republicans
Congress: Democrats

 

[MaggieMae]

Is he EVER going to take responsibility...FOR ANYTHING????

Well, of course he will take responsibility for anything that goes well... Everything that goes wrong is the fault of Republicans and everything that goes right is because the Messiah did it....Sheeze... This is getting old.

He's been President for 1.5 years, has control of the house and Senate, and still can't anything done... He had to buy off votes in his own party to get health care done... He is an embarrassment.


Obama blames politics for delay on immigration - Yahoo! News

You may not agree with Obama but he has got some major legislation passed. The healthcare bill is the most important piece of healthcare legislation since Medicare. The financial reform bill is the most significant financial regulation since the 30's. If he gets immigration reform through, he will have done what none of his predecessors could do. The Republicans can't allow him this victory. Irregardless of what's in the immigration bill, Republicans will vote against it.

So even if the majority of people in the country are against what he is doing, it's a good thing that he did it????

Except "the majority" of people are NOT against what he's doing. You need to step away from Rasmussen for a change and check out ALL THE POLLS.

Omg...even FOX polls him at 47%.
Obama: Job Ratings

Obama: Favorability

 

[MaggieMae]

The far right wing of the GOP does not realize that it is a small minority of Americans, and growing even smaller every years as America grows younger and darker. It has alienated African Americans (edit: and Hispanics), who make up more than 25% of the voters. Women historically are more comfortable with the Dems. White males make up only 33% of voters. So . . . either the GOP dumps its leadership and remakes itself, or it will be the bastard minority for the rest of its miserable existence. Then a new, far more responsible conservative party will rise. Good.

Well if the Republicans manage to eke out enough seats in the House, they'll have their first "Tangerine" Speaker, so will that be enough to prove their diversity? (Kudos to Colbert for his apt characterization of The Boner.)