Obama announces debt deal--GOP/Tea Party members WIN big!

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    Obama Announces Debt-Reduction Deal Approved by Senate, House Leaders - FoxNews.com

    Knowing that the GOP and tea party only controls 1 house out of the 3 legislative branches--it's really sureal. Balanced budget vote in the amendment.
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    Yup. They won. America lost. Congrats to big business, special props to your man Cantor.

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    Any credible source?
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    Oh, I know how that works. They'll send the Dems out to get beer, promising to pay half the tab upon their return.

    Then they'll drink all the beer.

    Then they'll renege.
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    Obama could cut a trillion dollars by bringing the troops home.
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    Who knew my college roommate was a future Tea Partier:lol:
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    One tea party member of congress described this as very close to the cut--cap--and balance bill that passed the house 1-1/2 weeks ago--that Obama stated he would veto--and that Harry Reid stated was dead on arrival. We'll see?
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    How do you know? In the habit of being ditched by friends with an unpaid tab?
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    Yea, I heard that too. Shit, let's givem a beer anyhow.
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    The reason this thing should not have gone this far is that the Chinese are watching, Putin is watching, the Iranians are watching, Dear Leader Kim is watching this farce. The guy responsible for our national security was made to fold like a cheap umbrella despite having all the cards.

    This is very bad news
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    since no one sane has posted on this thread but you, I'll direct this at you; this fight has been going on since the first agrarian reforms created the show down between optimate and populare who battled for supremacy in Rome and Italy 2000 years ago........and it will go on.
    The is no 'victory', the pendulum swings and the only truth to survive each and every dance is; the middle loses almost every time and its most always for the same reason, overreach by both parties.
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    The deal MIGHT still include a "vote" on the BBA to be sent to the States. But, I understand that there's no requirement that it "pass" both Houses as a condition of the deal.

    It sounds now like it's an immediate 1 Trillion dollars spread over 10 years and some gobble-dee-crap about another 1.8 trillion or so (to make the cuts match the debt limit increase) with the details to be worked out by the super committee ....

    A lot of bullshit games playing and horse trading. And a debt limit INCREASE offset by spending cuts is still a debt limit increase.

    Further, I do not believe that THIS or any Congress can validly pass DEAD HAND legislation that would bind future Congresses. So this deal -- imho, initially -- is largely bullshit.
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