Obama and ...which conservatives?

[BlackAsCoal]

Nice try, asswipe...

Please reference any post I have made stating Obama is a Muslim or does not have a birth cert or whatever else.. oh,.... and I don't seem to remember mentioning RACE either, but nice attempt at the play of the race card... (usually the move of the one that is truly racist)

You have shown your ignorance twice already in a short thread.. not an easy task....

Talk about someone 'accusing'.. LOL

His policies and actions do show what he is... and that certainly is NOT 'center-right'... except maybe to the super-rare uber-extremist-left-winger

Don't get your panties in a twitter there Dave. I'm just having fun with the whole of right-wing "thought." Just playin' with the stupid.

After all, your first post to me was calling me an ignoramus, now you're all menstrual because I wanna' play with you back.

You could have simply challenged my comment about him being center-right and we could of had a good civil conversation about the merits of that. That comment does come with plenty of supporting evidence. Here's a clue into just a bit of it .. he's following the foreign policy footsteps of George Bush almost to the letter .. and in some cases like Pakistan .. going even further to the right than did Bush .. a decidedly center-right politician.

But you didn't want that conversation and reached for the toliet instead.

Stop your fucking whining.

If you don't want a civil conversation and rather post toliet humor, stop your fucking whining when I respond in kind.

Following GW Bush doesn't make you center right, it makes you a progressive Fabian socialist.

That comment makes you confused about a whole lot of shit .. and more than a bit disingenuous.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Oh did you think Bush was a conservative?
There hasnt been a conservative bush since the time of Moses.

 

[rdean]

Once again I'm curious.

What is "the same page" for Republicans?

The apology to BP followed by what? Blocking any investigation? Any restitution?

They don't believe the unemployed are hobos and druggies?

Not all Republicans feel taxes should be repealed for millionaires and billionaires?

Are Republicans going to agree that we should try to keep jobs here instead of moving them to China? Yea sure.

At least Republicans agree that spending money on rebuilding America and education is a waste. They prefer to rebuild Iraq. They even want to send them "new shoes"!

 

[Sallow]

Oh did you think Bush was a conservative?
There hasnt been a conservative bush since the time of Moses.

Well they weren't as conservative as the Saudi Princes..but heck..I don't see them able to win American elections anytime soon.

 

[L.K.Eder]

President Obama did fine. Much of what he wanted was signed into law, even though a vast majority of 'conservatives' - of all stripes - wanted him to fail. He achieved compromise with the uncompromising and in doing so disappointed the liberal base of his party. However, moderate Americans seem to have found his ability to 'man up' under constant fire enticing and the sign of a strong leader with a clear vision for the future.
I would not bet against the president pressing for and signing into law the Dream Act, for Americans in general are not bigots - only the few, the proud and the stupid hold that 'distinciton'.

That's not even the funniest part. He did fine despite a 24 hour foreign controlled propaganda machine known as FOX that constantly spewed fake or semi-true stories about him. He did fine despite having a non/future candidate from Alaska nipping at his heels calling him every name in the book and them some. He did fine although he had one of the most ridiculous partisan Republican members of congress opposing him..and willing to filibuster every bill. One even shouted "You Lie!" in the halls of congress.

He didn't break his cool and kept to decorum and procedure. Despite the bad behavior of his adversaries.

Republicans are turning governing into a 24 hour a day campaign to regain power..which in the long run is going to come back to bite them in the ass.

Too bad that you don't read Shakespeare....

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

shakespearean "protest" does not mean what you think it means.

you probably should read hamlet.

EDIT: maybe you do know it, as i find only affirmations here not objections, when actually reading it. sorry, pc.

 

[NYcarbineer]

As horrific as it was from a policy standpoint, Obama politically castrated the Republicans when he gave them all their tax cuts, and then some. The GOP is a tax cut one-trick pony, and to add another metaphor, Obama shot that pony in the head and sent him off to the glue factory.

With their free lunch/gravy issue gone, what can the Republicans do? Get serious about spending cuts? L.O.L.

Why weren't they serious about spending cuts in the last election? Why did every sane politician on the GOP side run for the bushes every time someone tried to pin them down on specifics on spending cuts, even though those same GOP'ers would repeatedly throw out grandiose non-specific platitudes about cutting spending?

Because spending cuts are the bill for the tax cut lunch you thought was free, and like it or not, most Americans in the real world are not particularly interested in paying that bill.

Obama pulled a nasty fast one on the GOP.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Oh did you think Bush was a conservative?
There hasnt been a conservative bush since the time of Moses.

That begs an interesting question.

If Bush wasn't a conservative on foreign policy, what would the conservarive thing to do be?

Attack China?

Nuke Iran?

There is no question that Bush was and is a conservative.

Was he conserrvative enough for teabaggers and other silly people like that is a different question.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

As horrific as it was from a policy standpoint, Obama politically castrated the Republicans when he gave them all their tax cuts, and then some. The GOP is a tax cut one-trick pony, and to add another metaphor, Obama shot that pony in the head and sent him off to the glue factory.

With their free lunch/gravy issue gone, what can the Republicans do? Get serious about spending cuts? L.O.L.

Why weren't they serious about spending cuts in the last election? Why did every sane politician on the GOP side run for the bushes every time someone tried to pin them down on specifics on spending cuts, even though those same GOP'ers would repeatedly throw out grandiose non-specific platitudes about cutting spending?

Because spending cuts are the bill for the tax cut lunch you thought was free, and like it or not, most Americans in the real world are not particularly interested in paying that bill.

Obama pulled a nasty fast one on the GOP.

He pulled a nasty fast one on democrats .. and it's why few of them went to the polls.

 

[mdn2000]

Obama, Marxism brought to you by your local Democrat party.

 

[mdn2000]

Oh did you think Bush was a conservative?
There hasnt been a conservative bush since the time of Moses.

That begs an interesting question.

If Bush wasn't a conservative on foreign policy, what would the conservarive thing to do be?

Attack China?

Nuke Iran?

There is no question that Bush was and is a conservative.

Was he conserrvative enough for teabaggers and other silly people like that is a different question.

I put extra salt on mine so you will enjoy your evening treat.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

If conservatives were in charge we would have cut out dependence of foreign oil decades ago and be leading the world in solar wind and nuclear power.
911 would never have happened.

 

[DiamondDave]

Don't get your panties in a twitter there Dave. I'm just having fun with the whole of right-wing "thought." Just playin' with the stupid.

After all, your first post to me was calling me an ignoramus, now you're all menstrual because I wanna' play with you back.

You could have simply challenged my comment about him being center-right and we could of had a good civil conversation about the merits of that. That comment does come with plenty of supporting evidence. Here's a clue into just a bit of it .. he's following the foreign policy footsteps of George Bush almost to the letter .. and in some cases like Pakistan .. going even further to the right than did Bush .. a decidedly center-right politician.

But you didn't want that conversation and reached for the toliet instead.

Stop your fucking whining.

If you don't want a civil conversation and rather post toliet humor, stop your fucking whining when I respond in kind.

No asswipe.. I called you ignoramus because of the ignorant thing that you actually wrote... you came back with assumptions... big difference....

There is no backing to your ignorant claim of 'center-right'... and using continuation of the GWB 'policy' (mainly because Obama does not have any experience to formulate anything else) in places such as Pakistan is hardly proof of a 'center-right' positioning... fiscally, Obama is slightly right of socialism... socially, he is about as far left as you get in any mainstream American politician... and voting record wise, it has been clearly shown that his is/was about the farthest left politician out there

You are indeed an ignoramus if you think Obamalama is anywhere close to 'center-right'

Thanks for confirming that all you're here for is the joke.

If you had problems with what I wrote, all you're missing is the intelligence to counter it. I think that pretty much defines the ignoramus you're so in love with.

I cited the history .. you didn't touch it because of that same failing. No intelligence, just toliet shit one would expect from a teenagers.

I could fairly easily destroy the dumbness you just said, but you aren't here for debate so I'll just continue to enjoy and relish the dumbness of you just as you are.



thanks

You did not cite history.. you tried to paint a picture that those (including me) in opposition to your far left stance are 'birthers' or 'Muslim Obama believers' or 'racists' or whatever else.... as a feeble attempt to gain the upper hand after you posted such an ignorant claim

You're an ignoramus

 

[PoliticalChic]

Once again I'm curious.

What is "the same page" for Republicans?

The apology to BP followed by what? Blocking any investigation? Any restitution?

They don't believe the unemployed are hobos and druggies?

Not all Republicans feel taxes should be repealed for millionaires and billionaires?

Are Republicans going to agree that we should try to keep jobs here instead of moving them to China? Yea sure.

At least Republicans agree that spending money on rebuilding America and education is a waste. They prefer to rebuild Iraq. They even want to send them "new shoes"!

deanie....always, always good to see your posts, as they give me something to do: correct errors.

First, the OP dealt with conservatives, not Republicans, your bete noire.
How did you find the strength to refrain from the use of your hallmark, "6%"?

I can see that my OP was not literal enough for you, and that your wandered away before you finished reading...or you would have seen that a., b., and c. were the different 'pages'...see they weren't actual 'pages', deanie.

See, deanie, it was a sort of literary license...oh, don't worry...you'll learn about that in high school.
Suffice it to say, the 'pages' were alternative postitions taken by folks who could be considered to be conservatives?

That better?

As for the rest of your post, it was mundane, jejune, pedantic and sophomoric...and those were the good points!
Might have had some moment if it were not for the fact that your vaunted Democrats agreed to...what? most? all? of the items you've dredged up?

Not to mention that the Democrat policies and philosophies caused the mortgage/financial meltdown...


But let me underscore what would represent the 'same page'...it would be a united effort to heave the progressive-in-chief overboard!

And the 'glue' that could hold these disparate conservative strands together, ironic though it be, is none other than President Barack Hussein Obama, (peace be on him).

 

[PoliticalChic]

President Obama did fine. Much of what he wanted was signed into law, even though a vast majority of 'conservatives' - of all stripes - wanted him to fail. He achieved compromise with the uncompromising and in doing so disappointed the liberal base of his party. However, moderate Americans seem to have found his ability to 'man up' under constant fire enticing and the sign of a strong leader with a clear vision for the future.
I would not bet against the president pressing for and signing into law the Dream Act, for Americans in general are not bigots - only the few, the proud and the stupid hold that 'distinciton'.

Lovin' that whole "if you don't support the Dream Act, you're a bigot' thing you got goin' on WhineCrapper. It's as valid as the classic 'if you don't support Obama, you're a racist' argument. They are both the argument of the intellectual lightweight.

Thanks for sharing. If these lightweight comments fail to meet the high intellectual standards you set PC, one must wonder why you resort to ad hominem attacks worthy of a grade school debator. "WhineCrapper", indeed, a very well thoughtout rejoinder, a comment one might expect from Revere or CrusaderFrank but not an elitiist such as yourself.
Oh, and by the way, whenever I thank someone for sharing, it's sarcasm. Some don't really get it and I'm beginning to suspect you're one of the some.

Wry...you put two and two together and deduced that California Girl and PoliticalChic were one in the same!

Brilliant!

Why, Wry, I'd venture to say that you've probably used these very same intellectual skills in many of your posts!

I don't know what to say, other than.....wrong.

 

[Wry Catcher]

President Obama did fine. Much of what he wanted was signed into law, even though a vast majority of 'conservatives' - of all stripes - wanted him to fail. He achieved compromise with the uncompromising and in doing so disappointed the liberal base of his party. However, moderate Americans seem to have found his ability to 'man up' under constant fire enticing and the sign of a strong leader with a clear vision for the future.
I would not bet against the president pressing for and signing into law the Dream Act, for Americans in general are not bigots - only the few, the proud and the stupid hold that 'distinciton'.

igotry...the trap. The trap the Left attempts to set when the word "illegal" is attached to the word "immigrant".. The political Left has used the MSM to successfully encourage the American public to combine these two words to mean the same thing..."Latino"..
The logic is to resist and end all criticism and all resistance to anti- illegal immigrant policies.
The Dream Act is just another political vote grab. The goal is to use taxpayer dollars and at the expense of legal immigrants and US Citizens offer special consideration to those who in reality have no right to be here. Of course you or any of the other "open border" people will argue that the Dream Act applies ot the children of illegals. Furthermore you will argue that the 14th amendment guarantees birthright citizenship.
My argument and the same argument offered by anti-illegal immigration factions is Washington is that but for the illegal acts of the parents, these "anchor children" would not be in the US in the first place.
I'll make a concession.....You can have your Dream Act. However, first every dime used by those attending college MUST be paid back to the taxpayers. Next , no person claiming DA status will have the right to vote or own firearms. Same status as registered aliens.
all Dream Act people are "last in line" when it comes to getting seats in colleges and universities. In other words, if there is a seat open it goes to an American FIRST. The Dream Act person must wait.
In my view there can be no reward for illegal behavior. You may say "it is not the child's fault". That may be true. Do not think for a second the illegal immigrant parents did not know precisely how to take full advantage of their situation.
The alternative is the inevitable adjustment of the 14th Amendment( I support this path) and thus shutting off the stream of people violating our borders.

The problem with your 'reasoning' is quite simple. Those you hope to punish for illegality committed no crime. A child cannot form intent, and many of those who would benefit from the Dream Act came to our shores as infants and children. Many learned that were 'illegal' years after arriving in the United States, don't speak any language other than English and have no recall of the country of their birth.
Only an asshole and xenophobe would hope to exile or punish the victims for the crime of their parents.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They still don't get it.

The biggest winner of the midterm elections was Barack Obama .. no differently than the biggest winner of Clinton's first midterm was Bill Clinton, even though democrats got crushed and lost both the House and Senate.

Both losses allowed Clinton, now Obama, to move to the right under the guise of "Republicans made me do it" .. when in fact both are center-right politicians anyway.

Democrats see them as "progressives" .. what a joke .. and republicans see them as socialists .. equally stupid.

After two years of Newt and his band of idiots, the country ran screaming away from the right .. and after two years of the current crop of late-night joke fodder that's about to take the stage now ... guess what, Obama gets re-elected.

Teabaggers were just useful disposable waste that republicans will be turning on with the quickness .. in fact, they've already started. Add to that the fact that teabaggers themselves don't have a clue what they stand for .. other than what corportations tell them they stand for. Don't have a fucking clue. Like trapped rats, they eat their own. Teabagger hero today .. scum tomorrow.

Just ask Scott Brown.

This adds up to the same story .. Obama wins .. republicans win .. corporations win bigger .. America continues its decline.

I've seen this movie.

Blackie, this post must be today's winner in the category of 'Unintentional Humor..."

A few more 'wins' such as this one, and President Obama will be the only Democrat in the country!

"The biggest winner of the midterm elections was Barack Obama ..."

"Monday’s switch from the Democratic Party to the Republican by Georgia state Rep. Mike Cheokas is the latest in a series of similar party changes across the South. Since November 2, the GOP has gained 20 new seats in Southern state legislatures the easy way, from Democratic lawmakers switching to the Republican Party.

On Election Day, Southern Republicans gained 153 new state lawmakers; the post-election changes bring this total to a 173-seat gain. Thus, the partisan breakdown in Dixie’s legislatures in January 2012 will be 1201 Republican to 857 Democrats, a major shift in state-level political power in the region.

Nationwide, some 22 Democratic legislators switched to the GOP. The vast majority of them – 20 of the 22 – were in the South, putting the icing on the cake of a Republican surge in the South not seen since 1994 and earlier in the Reagan Era. In addition to the changes in the South, one state legislator each in Maine and South Dakota have also changed to the GOP since the election.

The Republican gains by party changes at the local level in the South are a strong indication that conservative politicians and voters have given up on the Democratic Party as a viable governing institution in the region."
Southern Political Report

Census shows folks moving from liberal states!

Politicians switch to GOP, and soon redistricting will magnify the trend!

Keep up those 'wins,' President Obama!

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Tea Party is planning to primary Scott Brown R-MA, if you want a great example of the internecine chaos in the GOP.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Obama, Marxism brought to you by your local Democrat party.

LOL, you maybe as dumb as Revere or CrusaderFrank - maybe even dumber.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think the big battle in the GOP will be whether defense is on the table or off the table when they start trying to come up with budget cuts.

 

[mdn2000]

Obama, Marxism brought to you by your local Democrat party.

LOL, you maybe as dumb as Revere or CrusaderFrank - maybe even dumber.

Yet your not smart enough to tell...........

Did you mean to state, "you may be as dumb....", or did your really mean it as, "you maybe as dumb".

Correct me if I am wrong, but that was pretty dumb to do when calling someone dumb.