Obama 'amused' by Tea Parties

[boedicca]

No, they're not. But keep telling yourself that, if it give you comfort.

 

[Polk]

No, they're not. But keep telling yourself that, if it give you comfort.

Yeah, they are.
Fact: Tea party attendees are no more likely to have voted for Obama than Republicans as a whole.
Fact: A higher percentage of them disapprove of the president's job performance than Republicans as a whole.

They're representive of a narrow subset on the farthest right flank of the Republican Party and of an even smaller band of even more radical rightists who thinks the GOP isn't conservative enough.

 

[Foxfyre]

Republicans voting for Republicans? I'm sure he'll be shocked.

Yes most Republicans will vote for mostly Republicans just as most Democrats will vote for mostly Democrats. That is nothing new.

But as more people now identify themselves as Independents rather than as Republican or Democrat, elections will be won or lost there. And the Independents make up a substantial percentage of the Tea Party effort.

The Independents did lean toward Obama as they believed his impassioned campaign rhetoric. A lot of those folks now know they were duped. They won't be so easily fooled again.

Independents are not a significant part of the Tea Party movement. A sizable chunk of them call themselves independents, but when you drill down into the numbers, it's very clear that many of these so-called independents are Republicans who are choosing to not call themselves that for some reason.

Sorry, but you have not been involved with the Tea Parties and I have. I can assure you that a large percentage of the Tea Partiers are Independent and/or Democrat. I don't know what the demographics are overall, but here in New Mexico I am not certain that Republicans are in the majority.

And it doesn't matter what party affiliation anybody claims or does not claim when it comes to the Tea Partiers. It comes down to their basic beliefs, values, and way of thinking about the role of government and personal liberties.

According to a Gallup poll in October 2009, 76% of those polled identified themselves as Conservative or Moderate. Only 20% identified themselves as Liberal. I am guessing those numbers have not significantly changed over the last six months.

And THAT is why Obama is terriified of the Tea Party movement and is attempting to destroy it.

Conservatives Maintain Edge as Top Ideological Group

 

[Immanuel]

Nope, I'm merely saying that the tea parties don't very treat Obama like a human being.

I can't very well say whether they do or not as I have only seen one clip (today I might add) from a Tea Party speech. I was not impressed by the rhetoric.

I might agree with some of the points they would like to bring about, but from what I have read, I'm not a big fan of their movement. They don't seem to want to bring about their issues. What I see that they want is to bring about a GOP victory ASAP as if that was going to bring a solution to the issues.

Immie

Do you believe the Obama Administration has been good for America? For Americans? Do you agree with the almost fanatical focus on taking control of more and more American enterprise? Demonizing the Bush Admnistration, Wall Street, Tea Partiers, and conservative media while never even mentioning union graft, Fannie Mae, Freddic Mac, or the irresponsible lending policies, pushed by government, that created the mess in the first place? Do you agree with the socialization of health care? With amnesty for illegal immigrants? With the federal government taking control of school curriculum? With the pending Cap and Trade legislation that will be the largest tax ever imposed on a people along with all the other negatives inherent in that including putting some of America's sovereignty under international control? Do you approve policies that ignore trillians of dollars of deficits in an effort to 'spend ourselves rich'?

The Tea Partiers seem to be switching their emphasis from an completely independent focus--one that would have insured Democrat majorities for decades more--to reforming the GOP which is our best chance to get around an Administration and Congress that is deaf to our concerns and stop this disastrous runaway train in its tracks.

However bad the GOP has been which has been very bad, they currently are guilty of promoting none of that stuff and currently are on record as opposing it all. We cannot possibly be worse off though I hope we are replacing liberal democrats with true conservatives in the process.

What did you hear from the Tea Partiers that you didn't like?

What did I hear from the Tea Party protester that I didn't like?

The link I saw was the one provided by JBeukema of Mark Lloyd. JB said it contained an implied threat. I listened to the 10 minute speech and it was difficult not to agree with JB. Mark Lloyd said he prayed that it would not get to the point of violence and that if the issue wasn't solved by the ballot box a bullet would be the next step (paraphrased). I'd like to think that he was truthfully praying that it would not go that far and that he really feared that some "jackass" might do something stupid. But, quite frankly, I can't convince myself thinking of his tone of voice, that I am correct on that.

What have I heard from the Tea Party protesters elsewhere that I don't like? That is easy... Defeat Obama and elect all Republicans because they are going to save the country. Sorry, Republicans are not quite as bad as Democrats when it comes to throwing money into black hole social programs, but Democrats are not quite as bad as Republicans when it comes to the removal of civil liberties. I don't like either idea very much.

Do I believe the Obama Administration has been good for America? No, but so far he's been better than the latter years of Bush.

I am absolutely against the increasing take over of American Enterprise. But, I don't believe things are going to be all that much different with the next Republican administration.

In re the demonizing of those who oppose the Obama Administration. Those who oppose the administration are my brothers. We're Americans. It pisses me off to have the administration demonize them, but there wasn't much difference when the shoe was on the other foot, and guess what, liberal Americans are my brothers too and I don't much appreciate them being demonized either.

I'm not going to go through each of your questions, but to keep this post short, I don't approve of the Obama Administration, but I am not convinced that a Republican administration would be all that different.

Immie

 

[Oddball]

 

[Foxfyre]

I can't very well say whether they do or not as I have only seen one clip (today I might add) from a Tea Party speech. I was not impressed by the rhetoric.

I might agree with some of the points they would like to bring about, but from what I have read, I'm not a big fan of their movement. They don't seem to want to bring about their issues. What I see that they want is to bring about a GOP victory ASAP as if that was going to bring a solution to the issues.

Immie

Do you believe the Obama Administration has been good for America? For Americans? Do you agree with the almost fanatical focus on taking control of more and more American enterprise? Demonizing the Bush Admnistration, Wall Street, Tea Partiers, and conservative media while never even mentioning union graft, Fannie Mae, Freddic Mac, or the irresponsible lending policies, pushed by government, that created the mess in the first place? Do you agree with the socialization of health care? With amnesty for illegal immigrants? With the federal government taking control of school curriculum? With the pending Cap and Trade legislation that will be the largest tax ever imposed on a people along with all the other negatives inherent in that including putting some of America's sovereignty under international control? Do you approve policies that ignore trillians of dollars of deficits in an effort to 'spend ourselves rich'?

The Tea Partiers seem to be switching their emphasis from an completely independent focus--one that would have insured Democrat majorities for decades more--to reforming the GOP which is our best chance to get around an Administration and Congress that is deaf to our concerns and stop this disastrous runaway train in its tracks.

However bad the GOP has been which has been very bad, they currently are guilty of promoting none of that stuff and currently are on record as opposing it all. We cannot possibly be worse off though I hope we are replacing liberal democrats with true conservatives in the process.

What did you hear from the Tea Partiers that you didn't like?

What did I hear from the Tea Party protester that I didn't like?

The link I saw was the one provided by JBeukema of Mark Lloyd. JB said it contained an implied threat. I listened to the 10 minute speech and it was difficult not to agree with JB. Mark Lloyd said he prayed that it would not get to the point of violence and that if the issue wasn't solved by the ballot box a bullet would be the next step (paraphrased). I'd like to think that he was truthfully praying that it would not go that far and that he really feared that some "jackass" might do something stupid. But, quite frankly, I can't convince myself thinking of his tone of voice, that I am correct on that.

What have I heard from the Tea Party protesters elsewhere that I don't like? That is easy... Defeat Obama and elect all Republicans because they are going to save the country. Sorry, Republicans are not quite as bad as Democrats when it comes to throwing money into black hole social programs, but Democrats are not quite as bad as Republicans when it comes to the removal of civil liberties. I don't like either idea very much.

Do I believe the Obama Administration has been good for America? No, but so far he's been better than the latter years of Bush.

I am absolutely against the increasing take over of American Enterprise. But, I don't believe things are going to be all that much different with the next Republican administration.

In re the demonizing of those who oppose the Obama Administration. Those who oppose the administration are my brothers. We're Americans. It pisses me off to have the administration demonize them, but there wasn't much difference when the shoe was on the other foot, and guess what, liberal Americans are my brothers too and I don't much appreciate them being demonized either.

I'm not going to go through each of your questions, but to keep this post short, I don't approve of the Obama Administration, but I am not convinced that a Republican administration would be all that different.

Immie

I respect your opinion however much I disagree with some of it.

I can think of absolutely NO civil liberties that were revoked by the Bush Administration except for the Patriot Act which was a team effort. (It passed the House 357 to 66 and passed the Senate 98 to 1 which is as bipartisan as you're going to get in Washington these days.) Over the years it has been revised and amended to remove some of the more objectionable provisions, but otherwise it enabled our government to fulfill its constitutionally mandated responsibility to provide for the national defense and protect us from enemies inside and outside the USA. The current version has been reaffirmed by a Democratically controlled Congress and a Democrat President who have made no move to rescind any part of it.

And as bad as they were and sometimes are, I simply cannot believe that President Bush and the vast majority of the Republicans now in Congress, even if they had been the party in power, would be taking us down the road to Marxist socialism we are currently on.

I do agree with one pundit (and you) who recently quipped that it isn't good enough to simply not suck as bad as the other side sucks.

But right now the water is heating up and will be boiling soon. If the frog doesn't jump out soon, it could be too late.

 

[jillian]

One of the most conservative members of Congress says President Obama must be completely out of touch with reality for making light of the recent Tea Party gatherings around the country.

king must be really out of touch with reality thinking the tea parties deserve any more than amusement.

 

[Immanuel]

Do you believe the Obama Administration has been good for America? For Americans? Do you agree with the almost fanatical focus on taking control of more and more American enterprise? Demonizing the Bush Admnistration, Wall Street, Tea Partiers, and conservative media while never even mentioning union graft, Fannie Mae, Freddic Mac, or the irresponsible lending policies, pushed by government, that created the mess in the first place? Do you agree with the socialization of health care? With amnesty for illegal immigrants? With the federal government taking control of school curriculum? With the pending Cap and Trade legislation that will be the largest tax ever imposed on a people along with all the other negatives inherent in that including putting some of America's sovereignty under international control? Do you approve policies that ignore trillians of dollars of deficits in an effort to 'spend ourselves rich'?

The Tea Partiers seem to be switching their emphasis from an completely independent focus--one that would have insured Democrat majorities for decades more--to reforming the GOP which is our best chance to get around an Administration and Congress that is deaf to our concerns and stop this disastrous runaway train in its tracks.

However bad the GOP has been which has been very bad, they currently are guilty of promoting none of that stuff and currently are on record as opposing it all. We cannot possibly be worse off though I hope we are replacing liberal democrats with true conservatives in the process.

What did you hear from the Tea Partiers that you didn't like?

What did I hear from the Tea Party protester that I didn't like?

The link I saw was the one provided by JBeukema of Mark Lloyd. JB said it contained an implied threat. I listened to the 10 minute speech and it was difficult not to agree with JB. Mark Lloyd said he prayed that it would not get to the point of violence and that if the issue wasn't solved by the ballot box a bullet would be the next step (paraphrased). I'd like to think that he was truthfully praying that it would not go that far and that he really feared that some "jackass" might do something stupid. But, quite frankly, I can't convince myself thinking of his tone of voice, that I am correct on that.

What have I heard from the Tea Party protesters elsewhere that I don't like? That is easy... Defeat Obama and elect all Republicans because they are going to save the country. Sorry, Republicans are not quite as bad as Democrats when it comes to throwing money into black hole social programs, but Democrats are not quite as bad as Republicans when it comes to the removal of civil liberties. I don't like either idea very much.

Do I believe the Obama Administration has been good for America? No, but so far he's been better than the latter years of Bush.

I am absolutely against the increasing take over of American Enterprise. But, I don't believe things are going to be all that much different with the next Republican administration.

In re the demonizing of those who oppose the Obama Administration. Those who oppose the administration are my brothers. We're Americans. It pisses me off to have the administration demonize them, but there wasn't much difference when the shoe was on the other foot, and guess what, liberal Americans are my brothers too and I don't much appreciate them being demonized either.

I'm not going to go through each of your questions, but to keep this post short, I don't approve of the Obama Administration, but I am not convinced that a Republican administration would be all that different.

Immie

I respect your opinion however much I disagree with some of it.

I can think of absolutely NO civil liberties that were revoked by the Bush Administration except for the Patriot Act which was a team effort. (It passed the House 357 to 66 and passed the Senate 98 to 1 which is as bipartisan as you're going to get in Washington these days.) Over the years it has been revised and amended to remove some of the more objectionable provisions, but otherwise it enabled our government to fulfill its constitutionally mandated responsibility to provide for the national defense and protect us from enemies inside and outside the USA. The current version has been reaffirmed by a Democratically controlled Congress and a Democrat President who have made no move to rescind any part of it.

And as bad as they were and sometimes are, I simply cannot believe that President Bush and the vast majority of the Republicans now in Congress, even if they had been the party in power, would be taking us down the road to Marxist socialism we are currently on.

I do agree with one pundit (and you) who recently quipped that it isn't good enough to simply not suck as bad as the other side sucks.

But right now the water is heating up and will be boiling soon. If the frog doesn't jump out soon, it could be too late.

I am okay with you guys disagreeing with me. If I wasn't I would not put myself through the agony of coming to these sites so often.

In fact, I enjoy the disagreements when they are discussed pleasantly.

When I think of the civil liberties threatened (not removed but threatened) by the Republicans, I think first and foremost of the Patriot Act followed by the NSA Wiretapping. Then I also think of President Bush's attempt to turn American citizens against each other when he asked us to be vigilant and to turn our neighbors in if they appeared suspicious in any way. I've always felt that it was our duty to report crimes, but that was an attempt to scare us all into thinking our neighbors were all terrorists. I also think about the torture scandal. I realize that no American citizens were tortured, but I am not thrilled with the idea of torturing "suspected" terrorists... meaning not convicted. I know that puts me at odds with the vast majority of the people on whose side I place my trust, but I simply am not comfortable with the idea of torturing people especially those who have not been tried let alone convicted for or of any crime. We are simply too close to the possibility of accepting torture of suspected bank robbers or shoplifters.

I'm afraid the Obama Administration is helping to put us so deep in a hole that we will never dig our way out, but I am fairly certain that a Republican Administration especially a Republican Presidential Administration in cohorts with a Republican Congress would be just as bad as what we have today spending wise.

Tea Party Protesters seem to think that Republicans are the best things since sliced bread and I don't happen to agree with them.

Immie

 

[Foxfyre]

What did I hear from the Tea Party protester that I didn't like?

The link I saw was the one provided by JBeukema of Mark Lloyd. JB said it contained an implied threat. I listened to the 10 minute speech and it was difficult not to agree with JB. Mark Lloyd said he prayed that it would not get to the point of violence and that if the issue wasn't solved by the ballot box a bullet would be the next step (paraphrased). I'd like to think that he was truthfully praying that it would not go that far and that he really feared that some "jackass" might do something stupid. But, quite frankly, I can't convince myself thinking of his tone of voice, that I am correct on that.

What have I heard from the Tea Party protesters elsewhere that I don't like? That is easy... Defeat Obama and elect all Republicans because they are going to save the country. Sorry, Republicans are not quite as bad as Democrats when it comes to throwing money into black hole social programs, but Democrats are not quite as bad as Republicans when it comes to the removal of civil liberties. I don't like either idea very much.

Do I believe the Obama Administration has been good for America? No, but so far he's been better than the latter years of Bush.

I am absolutely against the increasing take over of American Enterprise. But, I don't believe things are going to be all that much different with the next Republican administration.

In re the demonizing of those who oppose the Obama Administration. Those who oppose the administration are my brothers. We're Americans. It pisses me off to have the administration demonize them, but there wasn't much difference when the shoe was on the other foot, and guess what, liberal Americans are my brothers too and I don't much appreciate them being demonized either.

I'm not going to go through each of your questions, but to keep this post short, I don't approve of the Obama Administration, but I am not convinced that a Republican administration would be all that different.

Immie

I respect your opinion however much I disagree with some of it.

I can think of absolutely NO civil liberties that were revoked by the Bush Administration except for the Patriot Act which was a team effort. (It passed the House 357 to 66 and passed the Senate 98 to 1 which is as bipartisan as you're going to get in Washington these days.) Over the years it has been revised and amended to remove some of the more objectionable provisions, but otherwise it enabled our government to fulfill its constitutionally mandated responsibility to provide for the national defense and protect us from enemies inside and outside the USA. The current version has been reaffirmed by a Democratically controlled Congress and a Democrat President who have made no move to rescind any part of it.

And as bad as they were and sometimes are, I simply cannot believe that President Bush and the vast majority of the Republicans now in Congress, even if they had been the party in power, would be taking us down the road to Marxist socialism we are currently on.

I do agree with one pundit (and you) who recently quipped that it isn't good enough to simply not suck as bad as the other side sucks.

But right now the water is heating up and will be boiling soon. If the frog doesn't jump out soon, it could be too late.

I am okay with you guys disagreeing with me. If I wasn't I would not put myself through the agony of coming to these sites so often.

In fact, I enjoy the disagreements when they are discussed pleasantly.

When I think of the civil liberties threatened (not removed but threatened) by the Republicans, I think first and foremost of the Patriot Act followed by the NSA Wiretapping. Then I also think of President Bush's attempt to turn American citizens against each other when he asked us to be vigilant and to turn our neighbors in if they appeared suspicious in any way. I've always felt that it was our duty to report crimes, but that was an attempt to scare us all into thinking our neighbors were all terrorists. I also think about the torture scandal. I realize that no American citizens were tortured, but I am not thrilled with the idea of torturing "suspected" terrorists... meaning not convicted. I know that puts me at odds with the vast majority of the people on whose side I place my trust, but I simply am not comfortable with the idea of torturing people especially those who have not been tried let alone convicted for or of any crime. We are simply too close to the possibility of accepting torture of suspected bank robbers or shoplifters.

I'm afraid the Obama Administration is helping to put us so deep in a hole that we will never dig our way out, but I am fairly certain that a Republican Administration especially a Republican Presidential Administration in cohorts with a Republican Congress would be just as bad as what we have today spending wise.

Tea Party Protesters seem to think that Republicans are the best things since sliced bread and I don't happen to agree with them.

Immie

As for the points you made re civil liberties, I don't guess it matters to you that all those issues had full bipartisan support during a time of crisis and I think you are exaggerating on all fronts. But you probably won't be persuaded by my opinion, and that's okay.

As for the GOP being as bad as the Obama Administration and the Pelosi Congress have been in irresponsible spending and mismanagement of the economy, there's no way in hell. They were irresponsible, yes, and lost their way there for awhile, but no true Republican I've ever met would condone what is happening now.

And as for the Tea Partiers thinking Republicans are the best thing since sliced bread, you really REALLY have not spent any time looking at what the Tea Partiers, Tax Protest groups, 9/12ers etc. have you? You've probably looked a few You Tube clips selectively furnished to you by somebody on the left and took the bait.

The Tea Partiers have been furious with the GOP and have trounced them royally. The only involvement the Tea Partiers have with the GOP is to welcome any Republicans who embrace the Tea Party initiatives, and of late they have (thank God) given up on trying to organize an independent effort and are mostly working to reform the GOP in advance of the 2010 election as the only hope we have of stopping this runaway train.

The Tea Partiers of of pretty much one mind, though, that it is no longer acceptable to simply not suck as much as the other side sucks.

Having said that, I think you're the cat's pajamas or bees knees Immie, and you don't have to agree with me to be adorable.

 

[LuckyDan]

Has there ever been a more smug, condescending, full-of-himself son of a total freaking BITCH in the White House as this fuckehead is?

I really can't think of the likes of him who was not a banana republic thug.

Is it just me?

 

[Immanuel]

I respect your opinion however much I disagree with some of it.

I can think of absolutely NO civil liberties that were revoked by the Bush Administration except for the Patriot Act which was a team effort. (It passed the House 357 to 66 and passed the Senate 98 to 1 which is as bipartisan as you're going to get in Washington these days.) Over the years it has been revised and amended to remove some of the more objectionable provisions, but otherwise it enabled our government to fulfill its constitutionally mandated responsibility to provide for the national defense and protect us from enemies inside and outside the USA. The current version has been reaffirmed by a Democratically controlled Congress and a Democrat President who have made no move to rescind any part of it.

And as bad as they were and sometimes are, I simply cannot believe that President Bush and the vast majority of the Republicans now in Congress, even if they had been the party in power, would be taking us down the road to Marxist socialism we are currently on.

I do agree with one pundit (and you) who recently quipped that it isn't good enough to simply not suck as bad as the other side sucks.

But right now the water is heating up and will be boiling soon. If the frog doesn't jump out soon, it could be too late.

I am okay with you guys disagreeing with me. If I wasn't I would not put myself through the agony of coming to these sites so often.

In fact, I enjoy the disagreements when they are discussed pleasantly.

When I think of the civil liberties threatened (not removed but threatened) by the Republicans, I think first and foremost of the Patriot Act followed by the NSA Wiretapping. Then I also think of President Bush's attempt to turn American citizens against each other when he asked us to be vigilant and to turn our neighbors in if they appeared suspicious in any way. I've always felt that it was our duty to report crimes, but that was an attempt to scare us all into thinking our neighbors were all terrorists. I also think about the torture scandal. I realize that no American citizens were tortured, but I am not thrilled with the idea of torturing "suspected" terrorists... meaning not convicted. I know that puts me at odds with the vast majority of the people on whose side I place my trust, but I simply am not comfortable with the idea of torturing people especially those who have not been tried let alone convicted for or of any crime. We are simply too close to the possibility of accepting torture of suspected bank robbers or shoplifters.

I'm afraid the Obama Administration is helping to put us so deep in a hole that we will never dig our way out, but I am fairly certain that a Republican Administration especially a Republican Presidential Administration in cohorts with a Republican Congress would be just as bad as what we have today spending wise.

Tea Party Protesters seem to think that Republicans are the best things since sliced bread and I don't happen to agree with them.

Immie

As for the points you made re civil liberties, I don't guess it matters to you that all those issues had full bipartisan support during a time of crisis and I think you are exaggerating on all fronts. But you probably won't be persuaded by my opinion, and that's okay.

As for the GOP being as bad as the Obama Administration and the Pelosi Congress have been in irresponsible spending and mismanagement of the economy, there's no way in hell. They were irresponsible, yes, and lost their way there for awhile, but no true Republican I've ever met would condone what is happening now.

And as for the Tea Partiers thinking Republicans are the best thing since sliced bread, you really REALLY have not spent any time looking at what the Tea Partiers, Tax Protest groups, 9/12ers etc. have you? You've probably looked a few You Tube clips selectively furnished to you by somebody on the left and took the bait.

The Tea Partiers have been furious with the GOP and have trounced them royally. The only involvement the Tea Partiers have with the GOP is to welcome any Republicans who embrace the Tea Party initiatives, and of late they have (thank God) given up on trying to organize an independent effort and are mostly working to reform the GOP in advance of the 2010 election as the only hope we have of stopping this runaway train.

The Tea Partiers of of pretty much one mind, though, that it is no longer acceptable to simply not suck as much as the other side sucks.

Having said that, I think you're the cat's pajamas or bees knees Immie, and you don't have to agree with me to be adorable.

Since, I am disgusted with both parties... no, the full "bipartisan" support doesn't matter to me. Not at all!

They were irresponsible, yes, and lost their way there for awhile, but no true Republican I've ever met would condone what is happening now.

Do I hear a campaign promise in there somewhere? Am I supposed to take their word for it as if they have ever done anything they ever promised before? As far as I am concerned, they are going to have to prove they have changed before I am going to consider voting for them again. I'm not going to just accept their word for it because I just think they are so trustworthy.

I don't know all that much about the Tea Party protests. I have already said that I have only heard one ten minute speech from an event of theirs and I have not been to any of their events. They, like the GOP are going to have to earn my trust and if they continue to allow racist/imbecilic signs at their events, people shouting the N-word at their events or people spitting (even though it was unintentional) on other people (without so much as an apology) without the leaders of the events denouncing those actions publicly; I see the likelihood of them earning my trust in the slim to none category. I say that not because I believe the entire grassroots "organization", and I use that term loosely, is racist or imbecilic but they are responsible for what goes on underneath their umbrella. They are going to have to clean up their act and act responsibly before I would want to be associated with them (geez as if they really care about having me associated with them!!!) even though many of the things they seem to want are things that I would like to see happen.

In regards to the comments about Tea Party protesters being furious with the GOP, I can only say from what I have seen on this site from those whom I believe support the Tea Party movement that there are some who seem to believe that the Republicans are God's answer to all of our problems and then there are some, such as yourself, who believe that the GOP can be reformed overnight or at least before November. Good luck with that!

Immie

 

[Immanuel]

Has there ever been a more smug, condescending, full-of-himself son of a total freaking BITCH in the White House as this fuckehead is?

I really can't think of the likes of him who was not a banana republic thug.

Is it just me?

Hehe,

The probable answer to your first question is no, there has not been, but then we seem to be in a severe downhill trend (at least since the Reagan Administration although quite frankly, I would say Clinton was probably a slight bump up from Bush Sr and I didn't like Clinton at all when he entered office) and looking at the field of potential replacements, things only seem to be getting worse so I am not encouraged that our next President will be any better than the current one.

Immie

 

[jillian]

Has there ever been a more smug, condescending, full-of-himself son of a total freaking BITCH in the White House as this fuckehead is?

I really can't think of the likes of him who was not a banana republic thug.

Is it just me?

what an odd thing to say... because he thinks 24% of the population, the same deadenders who thought bush was wonderful, shouldn't be given greater sway than they deserve?

wanna talk arrogant? let's talk about some of the senators who think that 24% of the people are 'we the people' and the 365 electoral votes obama got are meaningless. wanna talk arrogant? let's talk about cheney. k?

did bush 'defer' to the far greater percentage of the population that was opposed to his little war of choice?

 

[editec]

One of the most conservative members of Congress says President Obama must be completely out of touch with reality for making light of the recent Tea Party gatherings around the country.



President Obama said during a Democratic fundraiser in Miami that he was "amused" by anti-tax Tea Party rallies that took place prior to and on Tax Day (April 15). The president told the gathering that he has cut taxes, contrary to the claims of the protestors, and he commented, "You would think they'd be saying 'thank you.'"

Congressman Steve King (R-Iowa) attended two Tea Party rallies in Washington, DC, on April 15, and he contends the president's comments are amusing.

"The president has to be completely out of touch with America if he's amused by what's going on here," King argues. "We are not amused by what he is doing. [For] the President of the United States to be amused and to say that we all ought to say 'thank you' for what he's done to our economy in this country, the best way to respond to that, I guess, is to laugh."

The congressman wonders if the president will be amused by the results of the upcoming mid-term elections.

Obama 'amused' by Tea Parties (OneNewsNow.com)

I do find one thing about them quite amusing.

The people who'd previously so hated people with the balls to open protest against government are finally learning just how difficult it is to deal with government gone rogue.

It's a lesson that both pattriotic Americans with liberal AND conservative dispositions needed to learn.

Of course when the TEAPARTY participants get gassed and clubbed by the cops,, THEN the lesson will be complete.

Until that time, as long as the cops aren't being given liberty to attack thej teaparty players like they were given liberty to do agains the antiqwar and civl rights protestors, then the EDUCATION of the consevatives has YET to be completed.

 

[Foxfyre]

One of the most conservative members of Congress says President Obama must be completely out of touch with reality for making light of the recent Tea Party gatherings around the country.



President Obama said during a Democratic fundraiser in Miami that he was "amused" by anti-tax Tea Party rallies that took place prior to and on Tax Day (April 15). The president told the gathering that he has cut taxes, contrary to the claims of the protestors, and he commented, "You would think they'd be saying 'thank you.'"

Congressman Steve King (R-Iowa) attended two Tea Party rallies in Washington, DC, on April 15, and he contends the president's comments are amusing.

"The president has to be completely out of touch with America if he's amused by what's going on here," King argues. "We are not amused by what he is doing. [For] the President of the United States to be amused and to say that we all ought to say 'thank you' for what he's done to our economy in this country, the best way to respond to that, I guess, is to laugh."

The congressman wonders if the president will be amused by the results of the upcoming mid-term elections.

Obama 'amused' by Tea Parties (OneNewsNow.com)

I do find one thing about them quite amusing.

The people who'd previously so hated people with the balls to open protest against government are finally learning just how difficult it is to deal with government gone rogue.

It's a lesson that both pattriotic Americans with liberal AND conservative dispositions needed to learn.

Of course when the TEAPARTY participants get gassed and clubbed by the cops,, THEN the lesson will be complete.

Until that time, as long as the cops aren't being given liberty to attack thej teaparty players like they were given liberty to do agains the antiqwar and civl rights protestors, then the EDUCATION of the consevatives has YET to be completed.

Do you realy believe this stuff when you type it out here?

Can you show me any PEACEFUL war protest or any event in which the rights of others were not trampled or property was being destroyed or people were being threatened in which the police used clubs or gas?

Can you show me any Tea Party event that has not been conducted lawfully, peacefully, and without infringing on anybody's rights?

Do you not think that should the Tea Partiers do violence to property or persons or make incendiary threats, that the police will not deal with that as they must?