Obama admits to the largest tax increase in history

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In order to protect the new national health care law from legal challenges, the Obama administration has been forced to argue that the individual mandate represents a tax -- even though Obama himself argued the exact opposite while campaigning to pass the legislation.
Late last night, the Obama Department of Justice filed a motion to dismiss the Florida-based lawsuit against the health care law, arguing that the court lacks jurisdiction and that the State of Florida and fellow plaintiffs haven't presented a claim for which the court can grant relief. To bolster its case, the DOJ cited the Anti-Injunction Act, which restricts courts from interfering with the government's ability to collect taxes.
The Act, according to a DOJ memo supporting the motion to dismiss, says that "no suit for the purpose of restraining the assessment or collection of any tax shall be maintained in any court by any person, whether or not such person is the person against whom such tax was assessed." The memo goes on to say that it makes no difference whether the disputed payment it is called a "tax" or "penalty," because either way, it's "assessed and collected in the same manner" by the Internal Revenue Service.

The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Obama Admin. Argues in Court That Individual Mandate Is a Tax

Remember when he insisted it is not a tax?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UcxU8PtzRs&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Obama on taxes and Merriam-Webster dictionary[/ame]
 
Only an idiot would say that using a definition of a word to clarify a point of argument is "stretching"
 
The legislation does not refer to it as a tax, even though it sort of passes the "duck test" of what a tax is.

But since legislativly it is not a tax (ha!) and the democrats insisted all along it was not a tax (ha ha!) the courts will probably defer to the legislated intent.

Or not
 
The people who will benefit from all of this don't pay taxes to begin with so why should they care, its a win win for them.

Just remember what the mouth piece pelosi said and feel comfort "”It’s like the back of the refrigerator. You see all these wires and the rest. All you need to know is, you open the door. The light goes on".
 
In order to protect the new national health care law from legal challenges, the Obama administration has been forced to argue that the individual mandate represents a tax -- even though Obama himself argued the exact opposite while campaigning to pass the legislation.
Late last night, the Obama Department of Justice filed a motion to dismiss the Florida-based lawsuit against the health care law, arguing that the court lacks jurisdiction and that the State of Florida and fellow plaintiffs haven't presented a claim for which the court can grant relief. To bolster its case, the DOJ cited the Anti-Injunction Act, which restricts courts from interfering with the government's ability to collect taxes.
The Act, according to a DOJ memo supporting the motion to dismiss, says that "no suit for the purpose of restraining the assessment or collection of any tax shall be maintained in any court by any person, whether or not such person is the person against whom such tax was assessed." The memo goes on to say that it makes no difference whether the disputed payment it is called a "tax" or "penalty," because either way, it's "assessed and collected in the same manner" by the Internal Revenue Service.

The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Obama Admin. Argues in Court That Individual Mandate Is a Tax

Remember when he insisted it is not a tax?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UcxU8PtzRs&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Obama on taxes and Merriam-Webster dictionary[/ame]

0bama gets his cake and eats it too. The last guy that tried that lost his head. The IRS is collecting a penalty, which falls outside its legislative function. A court action is legitimate and warranted.
 
Which also lays to waste the lie that the 16,000 new IRS agents are for anything other than enforcement of ObamaCare
 
Did any intelligent citizen actually believe him when he said it wasn't a tax?


I'm not sure that he has said anything that was purely truthful since he entered office. Maybe not before, either.

The Big 0 cannot tell a truth. He is always trying to sell something and always leaving out or twisting the facts that will expose the fullness of any issue.
 
Did any intelligent citizen actually believe him when he said it wasn't a tax?


I'm not sure that he has said anything that was purely truthful since he entered office. Maybe not before, either.

The Big 0 cannot tell a truth. He is always trying to sell something and always leaving out or twisting the facts that will expose the fullness of any issue.

Wow you guys are slow on the uptake.

Everything he is doing and the way he does it was all predicted over and over by many on the right leading up to the election. But we were simply called racists and shouted down.

Obama is nothing more than a Chicago Gangster wanna be thug with 0 qualifications for the job other than he speaks well from a teleprompter and lies like a hooker with no legs.

I said it over and over during the election. I could care less about his color my problem is he is a liar and a Marxists who does not like America the way it is.

What part of "were about to fundementally change AMerica" did you people not get? What part of "Spread the wealth" was to hard to grasp? What Part of “I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.” DID YOU NOT GET DAMN IT~~~~!!!!!!

Why did anyone buy the lies he sold during the Campaign, are you all that dense or did most of you just vote for him because he was black? Or cool? Or good looking?

sad.
 
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Did any intelligent citizen actually believe him when he said it wasn't a tax?


I'm not sure that he has said anything that was purely truthful since he entered office. Maybe not before, either.

The Big 0 cannot tell a truth. He is always trying to sell something and always leaving out or twisting the facts that will expose the fullness of any issue.

Wow you guys are slow on the uptake.

Everything he is doing and the way he does it was all predicted over and over by many on the right leading up to the election. But we were simply called racists and shouted down.

Obama is nothing more than a Chicago Gangster wanna be thug with 0 qualifications for the job other than he speaks well from a teleprompter and lies like a hooker with no legs.

I said it over and over during the election. I could care less about his color my problem is he is a liar and a Marxists who does not like America the way it is.

What part of "were about to fundementally change AMerica" did you people not get? What part of "Spread the wealth" was to hard to grasp? What Part of “I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program.” DID YOU NOT GET DAMN IT~~~~!!!!!!

Why did anyone buy the lies he sold during the Campaign, are you all that dense or did most of you just vote for him because he was black? Or cool? Or good looking?

sad.


As it happens, I didn't vote for him. After he was elected, I was willing to give him a chance. He used it and now he has my unremitting distrust.

I've often made the same observation that you just did. He's a product of Chicago Machine Politics. While eloquent, he's agenda driven and will not comprimise. His only technique to drive his ideas is to create an enemy and assign blame. This happened to mesh with the mood of the country in blaming Bush.

He found his voice in the Oil Leak fiasco when he realized that the enemy was BP and he could attack BP. Until that epiphany, he was Wordless in Washington.

He has no ideas, no solutions and no hope to correct the mess we suffer under created largely by his politically motivated dithering. On the bright side of things, every new day reveals another very serious problem and this clown is a joke. We should all be smiling.
 
Only an idiot would say that using a definition of a word to clarify a point of argument is "stretching"
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In order to protect the new national health care law from legal challenges, the Obama administration has been forced to argue that the individual mandate represents a tax -- even though Obama himself argued the exact opposite while campaigning to pass the legislation.
Late last night, the Obama Department of Justice filed a motion to dismiss the Florida-based lawsuit against the health care law, arguing that the court lacks jurisdiction and that the State of Florida and fellow plaintiffs haven't presented a claim for which the court can grant relief. To bolster its case, the DOJ cited the Anti-Injunction Act, which restricts courts from interfering with the government's ability to collect taxes.
The Act, according to a DOJ memo supporting the motion to dismiss, says that "no suit for the purpose of restraining the assessment or collection of any tax shall be maintained in any court by any person, whether or not such person is the person against whom such tax was assessed." The memo goes on to say that it makes no difference whether the disputed payment it is called a "tax" or "penalty," because either way, it's "assessed and collected in the same manner" by the Internal Revenue Service.

The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Obama Admin. Argues in Court That Individual Mandate Is a Tax

Remember when he insisted it is not a tax?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UcxU8PtzRs&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Obama on taxes and Merriam-Webster dictionary[/ame]

It's the ONLY way that Obama and the Congress can get away with it. The Commerce Clause was cited in the complaint of 19 States that the Federal Government cannot compel commerce [meaning they can't make you buy anything against your will].

By admitting it is a TAX is an end-run by Obama and thus he had to unmask himself. Folks? Many of us tried to warn you as he entered the arena...
 
In order to protect the new national health care law from legal challenges, the Obama administration has been forced to argue that the individual mandate represents a tax -- even though Obama himself argued the exact opposite while campaigning to pass the legislation.
Late last night, the Obama Department of Justice filed a motion to dismiss the Florida-based lawsuit against the health care law, arguing that the court lacks jurisdiction and that the State of Florida and fellow plaintiffs haven't presented a claim for which the court can grant relief. To bolster its case, the DOJ cited the Anti-Injunction Act, which restricts courts from interfering with the government's ability to collect taxes.
The Act, according to a DOJ memo supporting the motion to dismiss, says that "no suit for the purpose of restraining the assessment or collection of any tax shall be maintained in any court by any person, whether or not such person is the person against whom such tax was assessed." The memo goes on to say that it makes no difference whether the disputed payment it is called a "tax" or "penalty," because either way, it's "assessed and collected in the same manner" by the Internal Revenue Service.

The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Obama Admin. Argues in Court That Individual Mandate Is a Tax

Remember when he insisted it is not a tax?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UcxU8PtzRs&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Obama on taxes and Merriam-Webster dictionary[/ame]

It's the ONLY way that Obama and the Congress can get away with it. The Commerce Clause was cited in the complaint of 19 States that the Federal Government cannot compel commerce [meaning they can't make you buy anything against your will].

By admitting it is a TAX is an end-run by Obama and thus he had to unmask himself. Folks? Many of us tried to warn you as he entered the arena...

And look at how few of the Obamaroids have any buyers remorse
 

It's the ONLY way that Obama and the Congress can get away with it. The Commerce Clause was cited in the complaint of 19 States that the Federal Government cannot compel commerce [meaning they can't make you buy anything against your will].

By admitting it is a TAX is an end-run by Obama and thus he had to unmask himself. Folks? Many of us tried to warn you as he entered the arena...

And look at how few of the Obamaroids have any buyers remorse

He is down to 41% approval right now. Soon he will be in the 30'S....Bush numbers....and then the only people left supporting him will be those to stupid to think for themselves, or to partisan to care. Held to the Standard of all the Hype of the about Most intelligent, Honest, and transparent President ever Obama is a utter and Massive Failure. His so called Intelligence is questionable and best, and the only thing transparent about him are his lies and far left motives. More and more Americans simply can see right though him now to what he is. A Marxist, A liar, A schemer and completely Incompetent.

The Campaigner and Chief

Way to go America for once again Showing the dangers of a Democracy in which the voters are to damn lazy or stupid to learn about a Man before they elect him.
 
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Is anyone really surprised by this? He clearly stated during the campaign that he would spread around the wealth and income.
 
I'm not surprised at all. Cap and Trade won't be called a tax either, but it will devastate the economy if passed.

Hi Boe!

Sam got banned, again..
 
Obama admits to the largest tax increase in history

Arguing whether or not the mandate constitutes a tax is a bit of a semantic game. But it's estimated to bring in about $17 billion over a decade so if we do want to call it a tax, it's much closer to being one of the smallest increases in history.
 
Obama admits to the largest tax increase in history
Arguing whether or not the mandate constitutes a tax is a bit of a semantic game. But it's estimated to bring in about $17 billion over a decade so if we do want to call it a tax, it's much closer to being one of the smallest increases in history.

Requiring every man, woman, and child to purchase an insurance policy that could cost them thousands of dollars a year is the smallest taxes increase in history? I think your spin cycle has warped your brain.
 

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