Obama Achievement That Should Have Been Enacted After 9-11 by Bush

[Oddball]

they're scumbags, and the reason they're scumbags is because some people have so much money to wave in their scumbag faces that they vote to appease said money holders. said money holders also have the means to mass produce propoganda so that people vote their guys into office.

all that said, if they do something I agree with, I'll say that I agree with it.............such as advancing our horrendous fuel standards.

There you have it....Pure, unvarnished envy and covetousness.

Thank you for that frank moment of authoritarian leftist avarice.

no problem, now get your fat ass out of the house and promote your views and show mine to be inferior!

(otherwise known as: actually doing something other than sitting and running your jibs)

Avarice and covetousness are already pretty much accepted as morally and intellectually inferior attributes...When displayed in full flower by petty little freebooters like you, there's nothing I could add that could further embellish the character (or lack thereof in this case) of the person demonstrating such behavior.

(Otherwise known as: the job has already been filled)

 

[kaz]

Yeah, one of the best ways to help overcome our dependence on foreign oil is to use less of it. And increasing cafe standards is one step in that direction.
Thank you, President Obama

What a great day, Government fixed a problem that government created. Hail socialism.

 

[Avatar4321]

If only it was that simple. Wouldn't it be greater if merely passing a law or regulation would create scientific advancement?

"I say cars should get better mileage. And since I said it, it will be done."

As if scientific discovery and innovation can be legislated by government.

 

[Mustang]

If only it was that simple. Wouldn't it be greater if merely passing a law or regulation would create scientific advancement?

"I say cars should get better mileage. And since I said it, it will be done."

As if scientific discovery and innovation can be legislated by government.

On May 21, 1961, in a joint session of Congress, President John F. Kennedy proposed a moon exploration program. Kennedy said the following during that address:

"First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth."
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That goal, set by a US President, was achieved when the astronauts of Apollo 11 (Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins) safely returned to Earth on July 24th 1969 after astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin landed on the moon on July 20following their launch from FL on July 16, 1969.

And you don't think we as Americans can successfully build engines that get better gas mileage?

Thank God you never worked for NASA in the 1960's.

 

[WillowTree]

About 30 years overdue.

How many times have I heard cons say that Obama isn't doing anything? Bush diddled for years. This should have been one of the first things he did to decrease our dependence on ME oil, but we had to wait until he was out of office for it to get done.

who the hell you trying to kid? obielyingdoodle will still be riding around in those gas guzzling Escalades.

 

[Mustang]

As a gentle REMINDER, CAFE "standards" KILL motorists.

CAFE Standards Should Be Repealed

Piffle. Not to mention faulty logic. Actually, it's a LACK of logic. That's your forté, alright.

Cafe Standards don't kill. Car accidents kill. That includes things like:

bad drivers
drunk drivers
tired drivers
not wearing seat belts and/or shoulder harnesses
driving too fast for conditions
tailgaiting
distracted driving (as in texting, or talking on a cell phone, or smoking, etc)

Scratch a liberal find a Fascist.
The Obama believes himself to be a DICTATOR. and you idiots cheer him. He is sounding more and more like Hugo Chavez EVERY FRIGGEN DAY.

Stop drinkin' sterno!

 

[rdean]

From the title, I thought this was about getting Bin Laden. If Bush had gotten Bin Laden, he never would have been allowed to invade Iraq. Iraq wouldn't be under hard core extreme Islamic Law, it's women wouldn't be trapped in Burkas. Tens of thousands of American soldiers wouldn't be maimed for life, thousands of young Americans wouldn't be dead, Iraq would stand against Iranian adventurisn.

All that and the cost.

And all because Bin Laden was allowed to be let go. The eye was off the prize. I'm glad Obama got Bin Laden and didn't give up.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

How many times have I heard cons say that Obama isn't doing anything? Bush diddled for years. This should have been one of the first things he did to decrease our dependence on ME oil, but we had to wait until he was out of office for it to get done.

Congress diddled. Feel free to blame Bush though, you will anyway.

You mean the Republican Congress?

Hey, Bush and Cheney were oil men. Given a chance to put the needs of the country first or the interests of the oil companies first, I think it's clear what choice they made.

No, I mean the Democratic one.

 

[Big Fitz]

Is increased fuel efficiency worth the life of your child?

Are you willing to kill for it?

That's what these standards will do. Kill for fuel consumption.

 

[BoycottTheday]

Right, and these are the same people that promised hover cars by 2001, and do you see any hover cars!?!

 

[NoNukes]

Reading for comprehension will really improve your communication skills, s0n...To repeat....

WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY TOWING BOATS IS IRRELEVANT TO THE OVERALL EXAMPLE OF REASONS PEOPLE MIGHT WANT A LARGE POWERFUL VEHICLE, YOU IMBECILE!

My point was that most people do not need them, and many use them for regular driving. You are just attempting to be difficult, and failing miserably at it.

People fly over taking the train but most certtainly do not need to fly. They prefer to fly for it is more convenient.

Would you consider legislation to ban all domestic flights and only allowing for transcontinetal flights worthy legislation?

If you distinguish between flying long distances on a jet and using an automobile, it is no use carrying on a discussion with you.

 

[NoNukes]

Reading for comprehension will really improve your communication skills, s0n...To repeat....

WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY TOWING BOATS IS IRRELEVANT TO THE OVERALL EXAMPLE OF REASONS PEOPLE MIGHT WANT A LARGE POWERFUL VEHICLE, YOU IMBECILE!

My point was that most people do not need them, and many use them for regular driving. You are just attempting to be difficult, and failing miserably at it.

"Regular driving" as defined by whom?

And since when does your arbitrary determination (or those of prattling politicians and parasitic bureaucrats for that matter) as to what people do or don't "need" even become any of your concern, other than in a totally fascistic society?

If anyone here is being difficult and obtuse, it's you pal.

Is your definition of a totally fascistic society one that does what they believe is best for the country and the earth? Where there are labor unions to protect the workers and the ACLU to protect civil liberties?
It is the right that established Draconian drugs laws putting harmless people in jail for smoking a joint, wants to tell women what they can do with their bodies, wants to tell us how we can have sex, who we can have sex with and who we can marry, and it is the right who believes that it is OK to commit murder for the crime of murder. Which is the fascist side?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Yeah, one of the best ways to help overcome our dependence on foreign oil is to use less of it. And increasing cafe standards is one step in that direction.

Thank you, President Obama.

.....Not to MENTION....

...Obama DID...

....what Bush WOULDN'T....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtPBTybQ9k]The Hunt For Bin Laden - YouTube[/ame]

....and, NOW, he's got....

Gaddafi ON-THE-RUN!!!!

 

[Full-Auto]

Yeah, one of the best ways to help overcome our dependence on foreign oil is to use less of it. And increasing cafe standards is one step in that direction.

Thank you, President Obama.

.....Not to MENTION....

...Obama DID...

....what Bush WOULDN'T....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtPBTybQ9k]The Hunt For Bin Laden - YouTube[/ame]

....and, NOW, he's got....

Gaddafi ON-THE-RUN!!!!

Actually it was Panetta with strong opposition from val.

 

[Mustang]

Is increased fuel efficiency worth the life of your child?

Are you willing to kill for it?

That's what these standards will do. Kill for fuel consumption.

What a ridiculous argument.

I've dealt with it before with that idiot, Liability. But let me add a few points.

Reaching higher cafe standards is not the only reason mfgs have made vehicles lighter. Mfgs are ALWAYS looking for ways to cut costs, and using lighter and cheaper materials is one way to accomplish that. ALL manufacturers have embraced using lighter metals, composites, and plastics. Even the makers of beer and soda have switched from steel cans to aluminum cans. Plastic bottles have taken the place of glass.

Lighter materials also reduce shipping costs. And let's not forget that when gas prices rise, people (customers) are motivated to lower their fuel costs by buying cheaper, lighter, and smaller cars.

And of course, there is no direct trade off between increased cafe standards and higher highway deaths because there have been a myriad of safety improvements made to cars (and roads) through legislation and law enforcement at the very same time. The fact is that automobile fatality rates have been dropping for years.

Just some of the improvements I can think of off the top of my head are:

Seat belts
Shoulder harnesses
Airbags (front and side)
Reinforced doors (to help prevent side impact fatalities)
Fortified passenger cages
Collapsible engine compartments (to help absorb impacts)
Harsher drunk driving laws with better enforcement

So, your argument false flat since the very gov't you condemn for sacrificing lives for higher cafe standars has been working at the same time to make all vehicles safer for the American driving and riding public for decades. And didn't conservatives complain about that too?