Obama 1998--speech--"I actually believe in redistribution"--aka Socialism

[Liability]

That video was a fake. Already a thread on this lie.

It is obviously NOT a fake.

But I can certainly see why you would want it to be, Shitting Bull.

 

[depotoo]

That video was a fake. Already a thread on this lie.

Lakhota, The guy is a Socialist.

And here's a bunch more video of Obama in his own words:
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/9/18/16/enhanced-buzz-4066-1348001397-2.jpg

The guy is a Socialist.

to add to this -
New Ground 47 - Chicago Democratic Socialists of America
Look under New Party Update
and this -
New Ground 42 - Chicago Democratic Socialists of America
Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP.

The political entourage included Alderman Michael Chandler, William Delgado, chief of staff for State Rep Miguel del Valle, and spokespersons for State Sen. Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez, chief of staff for State Sen. Jesse Garcia, who is running for State Rep in Garcia's District; and Barack Obama, chief of staff for State Sen. Alice Palmer. Obama is running for Palmer's vacant seat.


all of this was ignored by mainstream media in 2008.

 

[Claudette]

Lakhota, The guy is a Socialist.

And here's a bunch more video of Obama in his own words:
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/9/18/16/enhanced-buzz-4066-1348001397-2.jpg

The guy is a Socialist.

to add to this -
New Ground 47 - Chicago Democratic Socialists of America
Look under New Party Update
and this -
New Ground 42 - Chicago Democratic Socialists of America
Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP.

The political entourage included Alderman Michael Chandler, William Delgado, chief of staff for State Rep Miguel del Valle, and spokespersons for State Sen. Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez, chief of staff for State Sen. Jesse Garcia, who is running for State Rep in Garcia's District; and Barack Obama, chief of staff for State Sen. Alice Palmer. Obama is running for Palmer's vacant seat.


all of this was ignored by mainstream media in 2008.

Of course it was. Hell. The same LSM sent 200 reporters to Alaska to dig up any dirt they could find on Palin. How much do you think it would have taken to discover the above??

They were and are in the tank for Barry. Hell. They've been slobbering over him for almost 4yrs now.

Anyone who expects a fair and balanced LSM is in for sad disappointment.

 

[Star]

These bums are the rights most hated in society.But you RWer's would gladly go down on the spot to these people cause they is rich. get them lips ready.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Nobody's really talking about this slice of the pie, but Mitt Romney's "47%" who pay no federal income tax include several thousand of the highest-income households in the country.

The Tax Policy Center estimates that 4,000 households with incomes over $1 million ended up with zero federal income tax liability in 2011. Another 14,000 made between $500,000 and $1 million.

4,000 of the richest in Romney's '47%' - Sep. 18, 2012

The bigger question is..

Why do so many Americans work their asses off..but do not make enough to pay federal taxes..

While other Americans do absolutely nothing..but draw incomes on the basis of the families they were born into..and have more power politically then most of the country.

Gotta love it.

The new aristocracy.

America(ns) thrived during the Great Compression. Republican plutocrats hate it when Americans thrive.



The Great Compression refers to "a decade of extraordinary wage compression" in the United States in the early 1940s. During that time economic inequality as shown by wealth distribution and income distribution between the rich and poor became much smaller than it had been in preceding time periods. The term was reportedly coined by Claudia Goldin and Robert Margo[1] in a 1992 paper,[2] and is a takeoff on the Great Depression, an event during which the Great Compression started.

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According to economists Thomas Pikketty and Emmanuel Saez, analysis of personal income tax data shows that the compression ended in the 1970s and has now reversed in the United States, and to a lesser extent in Canada, and England where there is greater income inequality metrics and wealth concentration. In France and Japan, who have maintained progressive taxation there has not been an increase in inequality. In Switzerland, where progressive taxation was never implemented, it never occurred.[5]

Economist Paul Krugman gives credit for the compression not only to progressive income taxation but to other New Deal and World War II policies of President Franklin Roosevelt. From about 1937 to 1947 highly progressive taxation, the strengthening of unions of the New Deal, and the regulation of the National War Labor Board during World War II, raised the income of the poor and working class and lower that of top earners. Krugman argues these explanation are more convincing then the conventional Kuznets curve cycle of inequality driven by market forces because a natural change would have been gradual and not sudden as the compression was.[6]

Explanation for the length of the compression's lasting have attributed to the lack of immigrant labor in the US during that time (immigrants often not being able to vote and so support their political interests) and to the "Treaty of Detroit" -- a landmark 1949 business-labor bargain struck between the United Auto Workers union and General Motors. Under that agreement, UAW members were guaranteed wages that rose with productivity, as well as health and retirement benefits. In return GM had few if any strikes, slowdowns, etc.[7]

Decades of conservative economic policies beginning in the 1980s have slowly resulted in a re-emergence of the wealth inequality that had existed prior to the great compression.[8] The reversal of the great compression has been called "the Great Divergence" by Krugman and is the title of a Slate article by Timothy Noah.[9] Krugman also notes that era before the Great Divergence was one not only of relative equality but of economic growth far surpassing the "Great Divergence". [10]

 

[clevergirl]

 

[Full-Auto]

Nice job....Reps will follow as allowed.

 

[depotoo]

And here's a bunch more video of Obama in his own words:
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/9/18/16/enhanced-buzz-4066-1348001397-2.jpg

The guy is a Socialist.

to add to this -
New Ground 47 - Chicago Democratic Socialists of America
Look under New Party Update
and this -
New Ground 42 - Chicago Democratic Socialists of America
Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP.

The political entourage included Alderman Michael Chandler, William Delgado, chief of staff for State Rep Miguel del Valle, and spokespersons for State Sen. Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez, chief of staff for State Sen. Jesse Garcia, who is running for State Rep in Garcia's District; and Barack Obama, chief of staff for State Sen. Alice Palmer. Obama is running for Palmer's vacant seat.


all of this was ignored by mainstream media in 2008.

Of course it was. Hell. The same LSM sent 200 reporters to Alaska to dig up any dirt they could find on Palin. How much do you think it would have taken to discover the above??

They were and are in the tank for Barry. Hell. They've been slobbering over him for almost 4yrs now.

Anyone who expects a fair and balanced LSM is in for sad disappointment.

yeah, they did everything in their power to destroy her. She actually had quite a good history of working with the Dems in Alaska, and that is what scared the heck out of them.

 

[DiamondDave]

it would be nice if billionaires could pay a little more than min wage, but you know how it is when you is rich poor folk.

And the class warfare continues..

What would be NICER is if everyone and every dollar was treated the same.. the minimum wage worker paying (just a number for shits and giggles) 15%, the millionaire paying 15%, the 60K factory worker paying 15%, the 150K company director paying 15%, the 40K teacher paying 15%

But we know you can't play your little class warfare games and pander for votes that way

 

[Soulless65]

There will always be Haves and haves not's because they'll always be people who are more ambitious than others. But, the one thing that has always been true in any civilization is that the rich and the ruling party be it kings or democratic elected officials the rich seem have an easier time getting what they want then someone like me or you. But what is the solution well in my humble opinion the best way to solve this problem is not to grow government but to shrink it. That way insures that the rich can not use elected officials since they don't have the power for bailouts or killing competition like they can do now. But that's just me and I could be wrong but we just can't keep going on the this path we are on now.

 

[expatriate]

it would be nice if billionaires could pay a little more than min wage, but you know how it is when you is rich poor folk.

And the class warfare continues..

What would be NICER is if everyone and every dollar was treated the same.. the minimum wage worker paying (just a number for shits and giggles) 15%, the millionaire paying 15%, the 60K factory worker paying 15%, the 150K company director paying 15%, the 40K teacher paying 15%

But we know you can't play your little class warfare games and pander for votes that way

so...every president since Wilson who has supported our progressive income tax system has been playing class warfare games? Have they ALL been socialists pandering for votes from poor folks?

 

[Katzndogz]

In obama's infamous statement where he admits that he supports redistribution, he also says that he supports pooling resources. Those would be resources owned by individuals that the government would first have to confiscate before they could be pooled.

 

[copsnrobbers]

In obama's infamous statement where he admits that he supports redistribution, he also says that he supports pooling resources. Those would be resources owned by individuals that the government would first have to confiscate before they could be pooled.

Yeah the media sure did a great job vetting Obama didn't they. He's was quite a salesman.
Many fell into the he's a rock star status.
We ended up with four years of misery. The good news is everything he and his cronies did can be undone. The sooner the better!

I still to this day can't believe people voted for a community organizer for POTUS though. What the fuck were they thinking?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The president said he believes in redistribution to some extent.

Who doesn't? Every normal person believes in redistribution to some extent.

 

[edthecynic]

Here is a youtube video of an Obama speech where he actually states "I actually believe in redistribution."

Obama In 1998: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

"I think the trick is..."

Notice how no one in the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood can give a complete quote! But thanks for yet again proving that no one on the Right can be trusted to ever tell the WHOLE truth.

The full unedited quote has absolutely nothing to do with Socialism, as the pathological liars would have you believe!!!! Obama was actually talking about DECENTRALIZING the distribution of pooled resources.

OBAMA: “I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities?”

 

[Sherry]

Here is a youtube video of an Obama speech where he actually states "I actually believe in redistribution."

Obama In 1998: "I Actually Believe In Redistribution"

"I think the trick is..."

Notice how no one in the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood can give a complete quote! But thanks for yet again proving that no one on the Right can be trusted to ever tell the WHOLE truth.

The full unedited quote has absolutely nothing to do with Socialism, as the pathological liars would have you believe!!!! Obama was actually talking about DECENTRALIZING the distribution of pooled resources.

OBAMA: “I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities?”

Oh pull your panties out of your crusty old crack, ya uptight douche.

The only point my quote was making was that it's a TRICK. Now have some warm milk and calm the fuck down before you have a stroke.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

14 y/o video that leaves off the last line so it appears to mean something completely different than President Obama actually said.

fux is SO proud.

 

[Sallow]

it would be nice if billionaires could pay a little more than min wage, but you know how it is when you is rich poor folk.

And the class warfare continues..

What would be NICER is if everyone and every dollar was treated the same.. the minimum wage worker paying (just a number for shits and giggles) 15%, the millionaire paying 15%, the 60K factory worker paying 15%, the 150K company director paying 15%, the 40K teacher paying 15%

But we know you can't play your little class warfare games and pander for votes that way

I love this "fairness' game you folks like to play. 15% of a 40K salary is not the same as 15% of a 150K salary. They simply do not have the same impact.

And 15% of income tax isn't going to pay for the thousands of nukes, 5 carrier fleets, and million ground troops you folks seen to think we need at the ready each and every day. And that's not counting R&D and brand shiny new killing machines.

 

[rdean]

If wealth is "redistributed" from the poor and middle class to the top 1%, is it still "socialism"?

 

[Wroberson]

The tax rate for the top income earners inf 1954 was 91% starting at 200K. For the low income workers, the tax rate was 20%. Today, the top bracket starts at 379K and is 35% with the low earners pay 10%. Our money began disappearing under Reagan and Bush where it started at 70% for the richest people a dropped further to 28.5%. Since then, the tax rate bounced like an out of control ping pong ball under Clinton and Bush Jr.

Not less that 30 years ago, the 1% were paying 70% tax. It's time to stop the bleeding off of our tax dollars by the richest people who stash the cash in a jackpot somewhere else than America to avoid a rate that's more than 1/2 of what our past generations paid. It's time to get our leeching taxes back. We need the tax dollars to at least assume the resemblance of what America used to be. Our debt it like a bottle rocket using unlimited energy that's no longer controllable.

Those complaining of redistribution of wealth are blaming the wrong generation. This program began a long time ago. Today's generation is only guilty of being the messenger.

 

[regent]

Can anyone name the nations that do not redistribute the wealth? One of my old 101 textbooks lists five economic functions of government, and number three is "redistributing income and wealth."