NY activist judges allow same sex marriage

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    i am in a same sex marriage...same sex...same women ...every day...i am really starting to quesiton the intelligence of the gay community :cool:
     
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    whatever, just something else they want us to bend over backwards for them on. getting sickening, well more sickening anyway. thery are making a mockery of marriage
     
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    The judge is not declaring a new law - he is stating that a certain law is not legal or valid under a certain (state) constitution.


    Just out of curiosity, how do you guys feel about interracial marriages?


    A
     
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    perfectly fine, if you wanna know.
     
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    Why do you always insist on comparing gay marriage to interracial marriage? its an insult to reason and common decency.
     
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    Calm down. First of all I wasn't making ANY comparison - you implied it. I only asked how you guys felt.


    Here's why: Decades ago, interracial marriages were illegal in many states. In fact, I believe that Alabama still has such a law. However these laws were found unconstitutional by the SCOTUS (See: Loving vs Virginia).

    At the time, interracial marriages were considered "an abomination to god", and in fact A Virginia judge ruled that "God did not intend for the races to mix."


    Today, decades later, people are substantially more open to interracial marriage. The only change was the perception over time.


    Here's my "Statement" on marriage:

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    Marriage as a holy, religion ceremony, belongs in the church, to be defined as appropriate by each individual religious body according to the dictates of their beliefs.

    The government should have no role in the "sanctity" of these religious bondings.

    However, in our modern society, there are logistical and legal ramifications relating to couples, particularly those that are raising families. To mitigate the "legality" (not "sanctity") of a couple/family, here the government can issue/oversee the legal aspects of the "contract."

    For the purposes of discussion, one could call the "legal" portion the "civil union", keeping the term "marriage" to apply only to any particular religion.

    With the understanding that legal means be available to all person in a non discriminatory manner, then any couple of any composition could have access to the legal civil union contract for forming a legal pair bond.

    But "marriage" as a religious institution should free itself from the bounds of governmental interference, and exist only as the religious sanctity observed by the couple and their god.

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    fire away


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    Andy said:
    A bit of intellection honesty please, Andy. Everyone in the board knew exactly where you were taking the statement...trying to deny it and then following it up with a diatribe of JUST THAT, a comparison between the two...just makes you foolish.

    If you want to have the conversation, have it...but don't ask a leading question and then fake surprise when someone takes you up on it.
     

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