Nuts!

I already answered your stupid "used arsenal" comment....pay attention.

It was an analogy, idiot.

If we cut our arsenal by 80% and Russia doesn't then they will probably have a 10 to 2 advantage on us.

You don't want a lopsided relationship like that with weapons. It would be like the local police getting rid of 80% of their guns and bullets then expecting the criminals to not misbehave. If they know your police don't have guns, they will break the law and possibly attack the police. :cuckoo:

We have thousands of active nuclear weapons, not "10".

I asked you a straight forward question. You did not answer the question.
 
Dumbass....the ICBM force is pretty cost efficient. The weapons last for decades and require minimum maintenance compared to tanks, ships and airplanes.

They are the biggest bang for the buck and have kept your sorry ass protected ever since you started sucking O2.

If we knew the price tag on this hideously expensive weapons system we will never use I think most of us wouldn't mind cutting them down in number.
ICBM's are being replaced by SLBM's. Cruise missiles are the best course. The launch of an ICBM would be immediately detected. And weapons launched from the former Soviet Union would hit the US FIRST even if launched a short time LATER. (ROTATION OF THE EARTH). We need marine based SLBM's and cruise missiles, NOT ICBM's.
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"Additionally, ICBMs are generally considered to be nuclear only; although several conceptual designs of conventionally-armed missiles have been considered, the launch of such a weapon would be such a threat that it would demand a nuclear response, eliminating any military value to such a weapon."
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Any general in the US who says NUTS to reducing ICBM's needs to RETIRE or be in a mental health facility.
 
The cold war is over, amazing how many people still get a feeling of security from having the ability to sterilize the biosphere. Keep enough to merely destroy mankind and shitcan the rest.
 
To make this simple for the simpletons here.

Let's say you are the LAPD Chief and you have Russia and Chinese gangs threatening the city with automatic weapons you know the ones "libs" freak out about. Well, being the genius lib you are....you propose getting rid of 80% of your police force's automatic weapons and leaving them with pee shooter handguns to take on the gangs in addition to the North Korean gangs and new Iranian gangs trying to get automatic weapons.

Well, what you end up with is the bank shootout in North Hollywood years ago where 2 gunmen with automatic weapons shot up the place until the police went to gun stores and took high powered rifles to kill the gunmen.

FYI....there is no nuclear arms "gun store" for the US to run to in a shooting battle with China, Russia, North Korea, etc....
 
Shut the fuck up, idiot.

SLBMs are not replacing ICBMs, we still have 3 missile wings located in WY,ND and MT. SLBMs serve a different purpose than ICBMs in our overall scheme which you don't have a clue about, cleatus.

The rest of your ALCMs and SIOP rundown is.....:lol::cuckoo:

Dumbass....the ICBM force is pretty cost efficient. The weapons last for decades and require minimum maintenance compared to tanks, ships and airplanes.

They are the biggest bang for the buck and have kept your sorry ass protected ever since you started sucking O2.

If we knew the price tag on this hideously expensive weapons system we will never use I think most of us wouldn't mind cutting them down in number.
ICBM's are being replaced by SLBM's. Cruise missiles are the best course. The launch of an ICBM would be immediately detected. And weapons launched from the former Soviet Union would hit the US FIRST even if launched a short time LATER. (ROTATION OF THE EARTH). We need marine based SLBM's and cruise missiles, NOT ICBM's.
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"Additionally, ICBMs are generally considered to be nuclear only; although several conceptual designs of conventionally-armed missiles have been considered, the launch of such a weapon would be such a threat that it would demand a nuclear response, eliminating any military value to such a weapon."
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Any general in the US who says NUTS to reducing ICBM's needs to RETIRE or be in a mental health facility.
 
That is not a legal response from a member of the military to their higher ranking officer.
No source for the comment by Gen. Kehler who was appointed to head STRATCOM BY Obama. It would be very unusual for him to make such a remark as he has long been an advocate of SLBM & CRUISE systems.
 
Yeah, I came here to lie to impress a twit like you. :cuckoo:

Sorry that some of us in life and done things you don't know about....like flown a jet, been in a submarine, worked with nukes, etc, etc.

Um, I worked with them for around 9 years....I know about the SIOP than you do.

Some are outdated, some redundant. I doubt those opposed to cuts understand how many we have.

Sure you did and I'm sure you can prove it too. Right?
 
That is not a legal response from a member of the military to their higher ranking officer.
I some cases though it's highly appropriate :eusa_angel:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LXCnsBo8Vs]Nuts - Battleground (1949) - YouTube[/ame]
It probably wasn't said. Anyone who thinks the US relies on ICBM's would not understand our nuclear arsenal at any rate.
 
Let me give you a hint, his background is with ICBMs....but of course he wants to get rid of them because you told him so. :cuckoo:

That is not a legal response from a member of the military to their higher ranking officer.
No source for the comment by Gen. Kehler who was appointed to head STRATCOM BY Obama. It would be very unusual for him to make such a remark as he has long been an advocate of SLBM & CRUISE systems.
 
To make this simple for the simpletons here.

Let's say you are the LAPD Chief and you have Russia and Chinese gangs threatening the city with automatic weapons you know the ones "libs" freak out about. Well, being the genius lib you are....you propose getting rid of 80% of your police force's automatic weapons and leaving them with pee shooter handguns to take on the gangs in addition to the North Korean gangs and new Iranian gangs trying to get automatic weapons.

Well, what you end up with is the bank shootout in North Hollywood years ago where 2 gunmen with automatic weapons shot up the place until the police went to gun stores and took high powered rifles to kill the gunmen.

FYI....there is no nuclear arms "gun store" for the US to run to in a shooting battle with China, Russia, North Korea, etc....

So how many do we have and how many do we really need? We will never use them again in a first strike situation so what is their mission? Simply a pawn in some balance of terror? Decommission the bulk of them and store the cores, got to be cheaper than keeping the overwhelming number we have on the ready.
 
Yeah, Russia and China are our friends and don't have nukes. :cuckoo:

Iran is also one of our buddies too.....eh?

The cold war is over, amazing how many people still get a feeling of security from having the ability to sterilize the biosphere. Keep enough to merely destroy mankind and shitcan the rest.
 
We need as many to deter Russia and China from doing something stupid like lobbing a nuke at LA. We also need enough nukes for reserves if something ever happened. You know it is the MAD strategy that has kept world peace for a couple decades....what a disaster for you.

Iran can't be trusted either way, so they cannot get nukes...period.

To make this simple for the simpletons here.

Let's say you are the LAPD Chief and you have Russia and Chinese gangs threatening the city with automatic weapons you know the ones "libs" freak out about. Well, being the genius lib you are....you propose getting rid of 80% of your police force's automatic weapons and leaving them with pee shooter handguns to take on the gangs in addition to the North Korean gangs and new Iranian gangs trying to get automatic weapons.

Well, what you end up with is the bank shootout in North Hollywood years ago where 2 gunmen with automatic weapons shot up the place until the police went to gun stores and took high powered rifles to kill the gunmen.

FYI....there is no nuclear arms "gun store" for the US to run to in a shooting battle with China, Russia, North Korea, etc....

So how many do we have and how many do we really need? We will never use them again in a first strike situation so what is their mission? Simply a pawn in some balance of terror? Decommission the bulk of them and store the cores, got to be cheaper than keeping the overwhelming number we have on the ready.
 
Obamination floated the idea of cutting our nuclear arsenal by 80% to the Pentagon.

The response back to the White House from the Pentagon...."Nuts!"
Actual words from Kehler, who knows what ICBM's are worth today; he has discussed upgrading a whole 14 ICBM's for possible use as BACKUP missiles:
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Our mission is to provide an integrated constellation of space and
cyberspace capabilities at the speed of need, and our vision is to be
the leading source of emerging and integrated space and cyberspace
capabilities. At AFSPC, we look forward to assuming the lead role for
cyberspace within the USAF. Air Force operations in the air, space, and
cyberspace domains are mutually-supporting and reciprocally-enabling;
the cyberspace domain is inextricably linked to the other domains in
which the U.S. military operates. Not only must we protect these
domains, we must also properly integrate them with the other
operational domains to create joint warfighting effects significantly
greater than the sum of the parts. Our capabilities are woven through
Joint operations, weapons networks, and civil and economic activities
ranging from missile warning to the position, navigation, and timing
signals we provide both for military use and as a free, international
utility.
Space and cyberspace capabilities shape the American approach to
warfare, are embedded in an ever-more effective arsenal of modern
weaponry and are threaded throughout the fabric of our warfighting
networks. Our space-based capabilities are absolutely vital to the
joint fight. Yesterday's irregular warfare is today's regular warfare;
asymmetric warfare is the new norm. Space capabilities contribute
across the spectrum of regular and irregular combat and non-combat
operations and provide Joint commanders a decisive advantage. Space is
no longer just the high ground; it is a critical joint enabler and
force multiplier.
 
Yeah, Russia and China are our friends and don't have nukes. :cuckoo:

Iran is also one of our buddies too.....eh?

The cold war is over, amazing how many people still get a feeling of security from having the ability to sterilize the biosphere. Keep enough to merely destroy mankind and shitcan the rest.

Typical all or nothing response, Who is talking about getting rid of them? I am suggesting that the ready capability for total Armageddon is a useless waste of money and resources. We almost certainly have the capability to destroy the bulk of mankind several times over, we could lose much of it and still maintain an acceptable balance of terror for scared people like yourself.
 
:lol:

Idiot...the ICBM force was moved from AFSPC to AFGSC to align the ICBMs and bombers under "one AF Commander" to increase the focus on nukes. Your dumbass didn't know that.

Towards the end of Gen Kehler's time at AFSPC he was in charge of space and cyberspace for the AF, but now at STRATCOM he is in charge of all DoD space, cyberspace, bombers, SLBMs and (drumroll) ICBMs.

Your claim that we only have "14" ICBMs at "3" missile bases spread out across an area larger than Rhode Island shows you are the biggest dumbass on this board next to rdean.

You are digging to China.

Obamination floated the idea of cutting our nuclear arsenal by 80% to the Pentagon.

The response back to the White House from the Pentagon...."Nuts!"
Actual words from Kehler, who knows what ICBM's are worth today; he has discussed upgrading a whole 14 ICBM's for possible use as BACKUP missiles:
***************************************************
Our mission is to provide an integrated constellation of space and
cyberspace capabilities at the speed of need, and our vision is to be
the leading source of emerging and integrated space and cyberspace
capabilities. At AFSPC, we look forward to assuming the lead role for
cyberspace within the USAF. Air Force operations in the air, space, and
cyberspace domains are mutually-supporting and reciprocally-enabling;
the cyberspace domain is inextricably linked to the other domains in
which the U.S. military operates. Not only must we protect these
domains, we must also properly integrate them with the other
operational domains to create joint warfighting effects significantly
greater than the sum of the parts. Our capabilities are woven through
Joint operations, weapons networks, and civil and economic activities
ranging from missile warning to the position, navigation, and timing
signals we provide both for military use and as a free, international
utility.
Space and cyberspace capabilities shape the American approach to
warfare, are embedded in an ever-more effective arsenal of modern
weaponry and are threaded throughout the fabric of our warfighting
networks. Our space-based capabilities are absolutely vital to the
joint fight. Yesterday's irregular warfare is today's regular warfare;
asymmetric warfare is the new norm. Space capabilities contribute
across the spectrum of regular and irregular combat and non-combat
operations and provide Joint commanders a decisive advantage. Space is
no longer just the high ground; it is a critical joint enabler and
force multiplier.
 
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Idiot, if we lower our numbers to say 4, Russia to 6, and China to 4....we are losing the ability to counter "both" threats.

Throw in Iran getting nukes along with NK's nukes.

It's clear your tiny brain doesn't understand deterrence.

Yeah, Russia and China are our friends and don't have nukes. :cuckoo:

Iran is also one of our buddies too.....eh?

The cold war is over, amazing how many people still get a feeling of security from having the ability to sterilize the biosphere. Keep enough to merely destroy mankind and shitcan the rest.

Typical all or nothing response, Who is talking about getting rid of them? I am suggesting that the ready capability for total Armageddon is a useless waste of money and resources. We almost certainly have the capability to destroy the bulk of mankind several times over, we could lose much of it and still maintain an acceptable balance of terror for scared people like yourself.
 
:lol:

Idiot...the ICBM force was moved from AFSPC to AFGSC to align the ICBMs and bombers under "one AF Commander" to increase the focus on nukes. Your dumbass didn't know that.

Towards the end of Gen Kehler's time at AFSPC he was in charge of space and cyberspace for the AF, but now at STRATCOM he is in charge of all DoD space, cyberspace, bombers, SLBMs and (drumroll) ICBMs.

Your claim that we only have "14" ICBMs at "3" missile bases spread out across an area larger than Rhode Island shows you are the biggest dumbass on this board next to rdean.

You are digging to China.

Obamination floated the idea of cutting our nuclear arsenal by 80% to the Pentagon.

The response back to the White House from the Pentagon...."Nuts!"
Actual words from Kehler, who knows what ICBM's are worth today; he has discussed upgrading a whole 14 ICBM's for possible use as BACKUP missiles:
***************************************************
Our mission is to provide an integrated constellation of space and
cyberspace capabilities at the speed of need, and our vision is to be
the leading source of emerging and integrated space and cyberspace
capabilities. At AFSPC, we look forward to assuming the lead role for
cyberspace within the USAF. Air Force operations in the air, space, and
cyberspace domains are mutually-supporting and reciprocally-enabling;
the cyberspace domain is inextricably linked to the other domains in
which the U.S. military operates. Not only must we protect these
domains, we must also properly integrate them with the other
operational domains to create joint warfighting effects significantly
greater than the sum of the parts. Our capabilities are woven through
Joint operations, weapons networks, and civil and economic activities
ranging from missile warning to the position, navigation, and timing
signals we provide both for military use and as a free, international
utility.
Space and cyberspace capabilities shape the American approach to
warfare, are embedded in an ever-more effective arsenal of modern
weaponry and are threaded throughout the fabric of our warfighting
networks. Our space-based capabilities are absolutely vital to the
joint fight. Yesterday's irregular warfare is today's regular warfare;
asymmetric warfare is the new norm. Space capabilities contribute
across the spectrum of regular and irregular combat and non-combat
operations and provide Joint commanders a decisive advantage. Space is
no longer just the high ground; it is a critical joint enabler and
force multiplier.
You thought ICBM's were REAL important until you looked it up! Talk about ignorance; Kehler knows what ICBM's are worth today. NOW, look up SLBM's. That is what the US relies on along with cruise as primary nukes. You probably didn't even realize an ICBM launched from the Texas, for example, could be intercepted by sea based cruise BEFORE it hit the former USSR. We developed better weapons because GEOGRAPHY favored the Soviets.

Another for the confounded one:

A missile launched from Alaska to China would hit China before one launched at the EXACT SAME TIME from China would hit the US.
 

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