Nuremberg executions

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    Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court Harlan Stone called the Nuremberg Trials a "sanctimonous fraud" and a "high grade lynching". Justice William O Douglas called the series of trials spanning 1945 to 1949 as an illustration of "power over principle". Hangman M/Sgt John Woods told Time magazine "10 men in 106 minutes, that's fast work". Strangely enough it's hard to find the total of Nuremberg executions. The popular figure seems to be around 500 and maybe close to 1,000 while it's easy to find that the Japanese artosities resulted in 93 executions of war criminals. Was justice really served? Did the popular media demand blood or were the Allies showing their political clout to Russia while ignoring Japanese criminals?
     
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    Due to the unconditonal surrender, the allies were perfectly within thier rights to line up those seen as war criminals and shoot them out of hand. the fact that they didnt do that shows a certain respect for law in general, even if it was imposed ex post facto.


    What would you have done with captured Nazi's after the war? What if Hitler himself had been captured, instead of taking the cowards way out via a bullet in the mouth?

    Nuremberg was one of the most fair things ever done by the vanquisher over the vanquished, with regards to total surrender. The fact that the most hated men in the world were given even the slightest due process, and the fact several of them were aquitted, shows that the trials were taken seriously.
     
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    I understand some of the Japanese were adjudged war criminals and were hanged or imprisoned because they waterboarded American and British prisoners.
     
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    They didn't go nearly far enough.

    Not in Germany and not in Japan either.

    Every high ranking NAZI in the military officer corps, and every high ranking NAZI administrator in the government ought to have been hanged.
     
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    when you quote from sources you are required to provide links. certainly even a racist loon should be able to copy and click...

    here... let me help because you left out the rest of the section...

    Nuremberg Trials — History.com Articles, Video, Pictures and Facts

    glad to be of assistance, nazi trash.
     
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    Photos of the main executed Nazis in the original trial (Keitel, Jodl, Ribbentrop, Streicker and about 7 others - were published in Life Magazine - in full uniform that they were hanged in - with cut offf ropes still around the necks - and with blood oozingout of the mouths.

    (heard the hangings were "sloppy')
     
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    Actually the liberal justices on the Supreme Court were the first to recognize how bad the UN judicial system administered by authorities outside the US could be if they were in charge of capital punishment. Lefties should agree with me. I'm shocked that they authorize lynchings but then again I'm not so shocked.
     
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    The Tokyo war crimes tribunals lasting from 1946 to 1948 got scant coverage in the media. Of the 80 defendants only 28 were sentenced to death. The Nanting trials in China resulted in a couple of executions. Maybe it was the guilt factor in the American incineration and obliteration of two Japanese cities with Atomic weapons that tempered the lust for vengeance that seemed to permeate the nuremberg trials.
     
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    Actually, the number of criminals executed as a result of the far east trials was probably also about 1000. The difference was that each country tried the criminals it had in custody.

    But let's get real here. The war had cost 70 million lives, many of them civilians and a lot of them executed in violation of their human rights.

    The world wanted justice. They wanted someone to pay for all that misery.

    Also, the world had learned it's lesson from the last war. At the end of WWI, the Kaisers of Germany and Austria were allowed to abdicate, and live in exile. None of the ministers or generals who instigated the war were held to account for it. (Save, maybe the Russian leaders, who were executed by their own people.) There was no disincentive for the next generation of politicians and military leaders to start a new war.
     

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