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You're right there, Bro!It's a useless change in the law that will accomplish nothing. It's security theater and nothing more.
What we need is Federal laws that bring some sanity to the scene, as Australia has done.
Australian gun laws didn't work...their gun crime rate is going up...and their laws did not stop mass shootings...dumb luck has saved them...not their laws.....they have had about a dozen public shootings after they banned guns......the shooter had an illegal gun, in a public space...but either didn't shoot more than 2 people or when they shot more, they didn't die.....explain how that is their gun laws stopping mass public shootings?
How many mass shootings with fully automatic weapons can you name in the US in the last 50 or so years?
Fully automatic weapons...no. Your point? Is it that it costs more to get a fully automatic weapon? That lame point? Really?
Considering that in France, muslim terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists, many of them criminals with criminal records..... were able to get actual....fully automatic military rifles, in France, a country where they are completely illegal, where they do not have gun stores, they don't have gun shows..........
And then tell us how it is that French criminals get the same fully automatic weapons......
Please......tell us how all of these criminals were able to get fully automatic weapons in a country where they are completely illegal...
Gun control in Europe is almost total. It hasn't stopped mass shooting attacks like Las Vegas
You heard that right: Countries such as France may have made all semi-automatic guns illegal, but that hasn’t stopped killers from getting fully automatic machine guns to use in mass shooting attacks. All four of the 2015 mass public shooting in France involved machine guns, including the 130 people killed in November of that year in multiple attacks including one at a concert venue.
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Hundreds of guns, grenades, ammo seized from French sports shop owner
Hundreds of assault rifles, shotguns, and pistols, along with hand grenades and 100 kilos of ammunition, have been confiscated from a sports shop owner in the northern French port town of Boulogne-sur-Mer.
In total, 488 guns, 13 grenades, 1,309 weapons parts, and more than 100 kilos of cartridges and ammunition were seized, customs officials said in a statement.
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'An Everest of Murderous Frenzy': Marseille Drug Gangs Are Using GPS to Kill Their Rivals | VICE News
Delseny gave the example of a double homicide on November 9, in which two people riding in a BMW were gunned down as their car exited a tunnel near the Vieux-Port harbor. According to Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin, the killing was part of a turf war between rival drug gangs.
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Around 10pm on Saturday, two or three men armed with automatic weapons showed up outside a grocery store in the Bassens projects, in the north of the city. Three individuals aged 20 to 30 who had gathered at the store to watch a live broadcast of the Barcelona versus Real Madrid soccer game were killed in the shooting. One of the victims was not involved in drugs trafficking, and appears to have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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French gunman's arsenal spotlights illegal arms trade
As France asks itself whether it could have done more to prevent Islamist gunman Mohamed Merah shooting dead seven people in a killing spree that shook the nation, there is one question that refuses to go away: how did he obtain so many guns.
The size and nature of the arsenal amassed by Merah - who stockpiled at least eight guns including a Kalashnikov assault rifle and an Uzi machine pistol - has focused attention on the easy availability of illegal weapons in France and their growing use in ultra-violent crimes.
As an angry online reader of the daily Le Figaro newspaper put it: "How was he able to buy all these guns, like one buys yoghurts, when he was under the surveillance of the DCRI (the French intelligence agency)?"
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Paris attacks highlight France's gun control problems
But in recent years a black market has proliferated. The number of illegal weapons has risen at a rapid rate – double-digit percentages – for several years, according to the National Observatory for Delinquency, a body created in 2003.
“In Marseille and the surrounding area almost all the score settling is carried out using weapons used in wars,” a police spokesman told Reuters after the Toulouse attacks, adding that Kalashnikovs were the weapon of choice: “If you don’t have a ‘Kalash’ you’re a bit of a loser.”
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Nice filibuster.
The point is that mass killings in the US with fully automatic weapons do not occur because those weapons have been subjected to CONTROL.
So argue whatever else you want to argue, but you LOSE the argument that gun control never works, and the control of automatic weapons in the US proves it.
You're right there, Bro!It's a useless change in the law that will accomplish nothing. It's security theater and nothing more.
What we need is Federal laws that bring some sanity to the scene, as Australia has done.
Australian gun laws didn't work...their gun crime rate is going up...and their laws did not stop mass shootings...dumb luck has saved them...not their laws.....they have had about a dozen public shootings after they banned guns......the shooter had an illegal gun, in a public space...but either didn't shoot more than 2 people or when they shot more, they didn't die.....explain how that is their gun laws stopping mass public shootings?
How many mass shootings with fully automatic weapons can you name in the US in the last 50 or so years?
Fully automatic weapons...no. Your point? Is it that it costs more to get a fully automatic weapon? That lame point? Really?
Considering that in France, muslim terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists, many of them criminals with criminal records..... were able to get actual....fully automatic military rifles, in France, a country where they are completely illegal, where they do not have gun stores, they don't have gun shows..........
And then tell us how it is that French criminals get the same fully automatic weapons......
Please......tell us how all of these criminals were able to get fully automatic weapons in a country where they are completely illegal...
Gun control in Europe is almost total. It hasn't stopped mass shooting attacks like Las Vegas
You heard that right: Countries such as France may have made all semi-automatic guns illegal, but that hasn’t stopped killers from getting fully automatic machine guns to use in mass shooting attacks. All four of the 2015 mass public shooting in France involved machine guns, including the 130 people killed in November of that year in multiple attacks including one at a concert venue.
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Hundreds of guns, grenades, ammo seized from French sports shop owner
Hundreds of assault rifles, shotguns, and pistols, along with hand grenades and 100 kilos of ammunition, have been confiscated from a sports shop owner in the northern French port town of Boulogne-sur-Mer.
In total, 488 guns, 13 grenades, 1,309 weapons parts, and more than 100 kilos of cartridges and ammunition were seized, customs officials said in a statement.
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'An Everest of Murderous Frenzy': Marseille Drug Gangs Are Using GPS to Kill Their Rivals | VICE News
Delseny gave the example of a double homicide on November 9, in which two people riding in a BMW were gunned down as their car exited a tunnel near the Vieux-Port harbor. According to Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin, the killing was part of a turf war between rival drug gangs.
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Around 10pm on Saturday, two or three men armed with automatic weapons showed up outside a grocery store in the Bassens projects, in the north of the city. Three individuals aged 20 to 30 who had gathered at the store to watch a live broadcast of the Barcelona versus Real Madrid soccer game were killed in the shooting. One of the victims was not involved in drugs trafficking, and appears to have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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French gunman's arsenal spotlights illegal arms trade
As France asks itself whether it could have done more to prevent Islamist gunman Mohamed Merah shooting dead seven people in a killing spree that shook the nation, there is one question that refuses to go away: how did he obtain so many guns.
The size and nature of the arsenal amassed by Merah - who stockpiled at least eight guns including a Kalashnikov assault rifle and an Uzi machine pistol - has focused attention on the easy availability of illegal weapons in France and their growing use in ultra-violent crimes.
As an angry online reader of the daily Le Figaro newspaper put it: "How was he able to buy all these guns, like one buys yoghurts, when he was under the surveillance of the DCRI (the French intelligence agency)?"
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Paris attacks highlight France's gun control problems
But in recent years a black market has proliferated. The number of illegal weapons has risen at a rapid rate – double-digit percentages – for several years, according to the National Observatory for Delinquency, a body created in 2003.
“In Marseille and the surrounding area almost all the score settling is carried out using weapons used in wars,” a police spokesman told Reuters after the Toulouse attacks, adding that Kalashnikovs were the weapon of choice: “If you don’t have a ‘Kalash’ you’re a bit of a loser.”
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Nice filibuster.
The point is that mass killings in the US with fully automatic weapons do not occur because those weapons have been subjected to CONTROL.
So argue whatever else you want to argue, but you LOSE the argument that gun control never works, and the control of automatic weapons in the US proves it.
--------------------------------------- GOOD , i didn't click link but i take your word as being true and all i say is GOOD Ben .Nice. Rick Scott may veto even that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.427311f7f858
It`s strong security measures that are keeping kids safe in Japan, Canada, UK, Australia, etc.? When you compare cars to assault weapons you should expect some serious ridicule because that`s seriously stupid. Did you forget to mention swimming pool deaths?It's time to begin isolating the NRA...
We see the serious beginnings of this with Enterprise, Symantec, the First National Bank of Omaha, and SimpliSafe, today...
Gotta love it, when the Big Boys begin shunning the Obstructionists and standing alongside The Children's Crusade that now unfolding...
The NRA is being repositioned as a Toxic Brand...
And we may finally have reached a tipping point...
Good...
It's about time...
This is delusional, and a bit scary. What does the NRA have to do with the Parkland school shooting? The NRA has been urging stronger security in schools for years. Is it the NRA's fault that the FBI and the local police failed to follow up on clear leads and red flags that should have prevented the shooting many times over? And what if Cruz had used a car? Would you be saying it's about time we isolate the AAA auto club and all car makers?
It's a useless change in the law that will accomplish nothing. It's security theater and nothing more.
then so what ?
if thats what it takes and doesnt make a shit either way, then change the law and make "whoever" happy and quit fighting over nothing.
sheeeeeesh
You're right there, Bro!It's a useless change in the law that will accomplish nothing. It's security theater and nothing more.
What we need is Federal laws that bring some sanity to the scene, as Australia has done.
---------------------------------------------------- i think that i like your thinking Flac .Nice. Rick Scott may veto even that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.427311f7f858
It IS a factor in getting purchased guns into killing hands. The facts support that. I'm not a fan of depriving rights. BUT when one group -- like HS school students DEMAND disarmament -- they need to be the FIRST to give up that right.
Later on in life -- they'll kick themselves for demanding that and fix it right..
It`s strong security measures that are keeping kids safe in Japan, Canada, UK, Australia, etc.? When you compare cars to assault weapons you should expect some serious ridicule because that`s seriously stupid. Did you forget to mention swimming pool deaths?It's time to begin isolating the NRA...
We see the serious beginnings of this with Enterprise, Symantec, the First National Bank of Omaha, and SimpliSafe, today...
Gotta love it, when the Big Boys begin shunning the Obstructionists and standing alongside The Children's Crusade that now unfolding...
The NRA is being repositioned as a Toxic Brand...
And we may finally have reached a tipping point...
Good...
It's about time...
This is delusional, and a bit scary. What does the NRA have to do with the Parkland school shooting? The NRA has been urging stronger security in schools for years. Is it the NRA's fault that the FBI and the local police failed to follow up on clear leads and red flags that should have prevented the shooting many times over? And what if Cruz had used a car? Would you be saying it's about time we isolate the AAA auto club and all car makers?
It`s strong security measures that are keeping kids safe in Japan, Canada, UK, Australia, etc.? When you compare cars to assault weapons you should expect some serious ridicule because that`s seriously stupid. Did you forget to mention swimming pool deaths?It's time to begin isolating the NRA...
We see the serious beginnings of this with Enterprise, Symantec, the First National Bank of Omaha, and SimpliSafe, today...
Gotta love it, when the Big Boys begin shunning the Obstructionists and standing alongside The Children's Crusade that now unfolding...
The NRA is being repositioned as a Toxic Brand...
And we may finally have reached a tipping point...
Good...
It's about time...
This is delusional, and a bit scary. What does the NRA have to do with the Parkland school shooting? The NRA has been urging stronger security in schools for years. Is it the NRA's fault that the FBI and the local police failed to follow up on clear leads and red flags that should have prevented the shooting many times over? And what if Cruz had used a car? Would you be saying it's about time we isolate the AAA auto club and all car makers?
------------------------------------------------- Thats GOOD if you are correct EWings !!Yeah, the NRA has their puppets hands tied behind their backs...these righties are not going to change a thing.. The NRA has way to much power in America.
Trump won't be able to change a thing either, so it is all lip service.
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To expect anyone with concealed carry to tackle a suicidal maniac with an AR15 is just fantasy.
People smuggle guns just like they smuggle drugs, genius.It`s strong security measures that are keeping kids safe in Japan, Canada, UK, Australia, etc.? When you compare cars to assault weapons you should expect some serious ridicule because that`s seriously stupid. Did you forget to mention swimming pool deaths?It's time to begin isolating the NRA...
We see the serious beginnings of this with Enterprise, Symantec, the First National Bank of Omaha, and SimpliSafe, today...
Gotta love it, when the Big Boys begin shunning the Obstructionists and standing alongside The Children's Crusade that now unfolding...
The NRA is being repositioned as a Toxic Brand...
And we may finally have reached a tipping point...
Good...
It's about time...
This is delusional, and a bit scary. What does the NRA have to do with the Parkland school shooting? The NRA has been urging stronger security in schools for years. Is it the NRA's fault that the FBI and the local police failed to follow up on clear leads and red flags that should have prevented the shooting many times over? And what if Cruz had used a car? Would you be saying it's about time we isolate the AAA auto club and all car makers?
Hey...dumbass.......explain how British gun control laws stopped these two teens and the other guy from committing mass public shootings.....
British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack
Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.
Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.
As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.
According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.
Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.
The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.
In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”
He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.
====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'
15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.
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'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside
Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.
Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.
The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.
He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.
------------------------------------------------- Thats GOOD if you are correct EWings !!Yeah, the NRA has their puppets hands tied behind their backs...these righties are not going to change a thing.. The NRA has way to much power in America.
Trump won't be able to change a thing either, so it is all lip service.
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Nice. Rick Scott may veto even that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.427311f7f858
This is a bad decision by the NRA. Why would any 18-20-year-old young person need to own a rifle? I can see why people that age, especially young women, might want to own a handgun, but I see no need for them to own a rifle. Most young people's brains aren't even fully developed until they're 21.
Nice. Rick Scott may veto even that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.427311f7f858
Then Republicans can kiss that Senate seat goodbye. The NRA is completely out of touch with reality.
Yeah, the NRA has their puppets hands tied behind their backs...these righties are not going to change a thing.. The NRA has way to much power in America.
Trump won't be able to change a thing either, so it is all lip service.
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------------------------------------------------------ lets say that your thinking about the NRA is correct . If your thinking is correct then i have to make a choice between normal NRA pro gunners or lefty 'pelosi' , hilary and 'mrobama' and current 'dem party leadership that wants more power over me . I'll support the normal Gun RIGHTS and American RIGHTS people every time EWings .------------------------------------------------- Thats GOOD if you are correct EWings !!Yeah, the NRA has their puppets hands tied behind their backs...these righties are not going to change a thing.. The NRA has way to much power in America.
Trump won't be able to change a thing either, so it is all lip service.
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So you think that it is ok for a group that gives out millions for congress to vote in their favor to have more power over the Americans..
My bad, I heard it on the news (not sure which channel), and I should have verified it for myself.
The actual figure is $11,438,118. Still, that is a lot of money for political contributions, and that also means the NRA has their hooks into him.
Who are the top 10 recipients of NRA money?
