Now Media Can Tell Us The Truth About ObamaCare Costs

[P@triot]

Rising Costs: How often did the president promise the Democrats' health care reform would bend the spending curve downward? Now the media that've coddled him for years are finally talking about ObamaCare's costs.

The media that endorsed ObamaCare as a cost-control watershed are now beginning to actually report on its effects. Over the weekend, the New York Times noted that "health insurance companies across the country are seeking and winning double-digit increases in premiums for some customers, even though one of the biggest objectives of the Obama administration's health care law was to stem the rapid rise in insurance costs for consumers."

Media Finally Acknowledge ObamaCare Pushes The Cost Curve Upward - Investors.com

 

[Mr. H.]

The fine print finally comes out.

Obama's legacy... "don't sweat the fine print".

 

[OKTexas]

Got to pass it before you can see what's in it. Surprise!


Not

 

[Amelia]

America deserves every crappy thing Obama is delivering.

The majority voted for it, facilitated it, celebrated it. The people who could have stopped it stayed home.

Now we have to take our medicine.

 

[jwoodie]

My health insurance went up 16% on January 1. How can this happen under Obamacare?

 

[P@triot]

America deserves every crappy thing Obama is delivering.

The majority voted for it, facilitated it, celebrated it. The people who could have stopped it stayed home.

Now we have to take our medicine.

I beg to differ on one critical point - the American people came out in droves trying to stop this disaster (did you see all of the town halls?). There was simply nothing they could do since the dumbocrats owned the House, the Senate, and the White House.

 

[Duped]

My health insurance went up 16% on January 1. How can this happen under Obamacare?

Because Obamacare was the bait - Obamascare is the switch; oldest trick in the book!

 

[Rozman]

How about this....

The payroll holiday ends...
My Health Care premiums are going up next month.
The Tolls for the tunnels and bridges in the NY tri state area are going up next month.
The MTA is raising the fare on the subways and buses..

And if I see one more stupid fucking Lib here say another word about how we need to pay our fair share and all that happy horse shit...

 

[Rozman]

I am really not in the mood tonight for these Obama loving ass clowns....

 

[WillowTree]

I love how liberals never come to these parties.

 

[hazlnut]

Rising Costs: How often did the president promise the Democrats' health care reform would bend the spending curve downward? Now the media that've coddled him for years are finally talking about ObamaCare's costs.

The media that endorsed ObamaCare as a cost-control watershed are now beginning to actually report on its effects. Over the weekend, the New York Times noted that "health insurance companies across the country are seeking and winning double-digit increases in premiums for some customers, even though one of the biggest objectives of the Obama administration's health care law was to stem the rapid rise in insurance costs for consumers."

Media Finally Acknowledge ObamaCare Pushes The Cost Curve Upward - Investors.com

For some customers--mostly individual plans.

**Your boss / your company can shop around for better rates.

**when the insurance exchanges kick in, rates will become more competitive.

**insurance companies are just gouging you while they still can.

**don't blame Obama, blame greed.

**rates will go down when uninsured individuals are required to buy basic coverage.

**keep in mind, it was the GOP that shit on the Public Option because it was a "trojan horse".


Health Insurance companies are the middle men, they innovate NOTHING, the provide NO health care services or procedures. They are the airline that raises the ticket price when you're already in the air, or the retailer that makes you pay before you come in the store and limits your shopping to only those items they believe you need. Health Insurance companies are a broken and backwards business model and the only way to keep them ethical is to regulate them. Obama made the mistake of inviting them to ACA table and letting them dictate the terms. Keep in mind, health insurance companies don't develop new products and therefore have no R&D expenses, no transport costs, no factory overhead. The market is dominated by several big names, no competition from the little operator. They insure large groups of people (Group Policies) and charge each member all the same even though only a certain percentage get sick. They play the odds to their advantage and will try to minimize coverage anyway they can.

 

[P@triot]

Rising Costs: How often did the president promise the Democrats' health care reform would bend the spending curve downward? Now the media that've coddled him for years are finally talking about ObamaCare's costs.

The media that endorsed ObamaCare as a cost-control watershed are now beginning to actually report on its effects. Over the weekend, the New York Times noted that "health insurance companies across the country are seeking and winning double-digit increases in premiums for some customers, even though one of the biggest objectives of the Obama administration's health care law was to stem the rapid rise in insurance costs for consumers."

Media Finally Acknowledge ObamaCare Pushes The Cost Curve Upward - Investors.com

For some customers--mostly individual plans.

**Your boss / your company can shop around for better rates.

**when the insurance exchanges kick in, rates will become more competitive.

**insurance companies are just gouging you while they still can.

**don't blame Obama, blame greed.

**rates will go down when uninsured individuals are required to buy basic coverage.

**keep in mind, it was the GOP that shit on the Public Option because it was a "trojan horse".


Health Insurance companies are the middle men, they innovate NOTHING, the provide NO health care services or procedures. They are the airline that raises the ticket price when you're already in the air, or the retailer that makes you pay before you come in the store and limits your shopping to only those items they believe you need. Health Insurance companies are a broken and backwards business model and the only way to keep them ethical is to regulate them. Obama made the mistake of inviting them to ACA table and letting them dictate the terms. Keep in mind, health insurance companies don't develop new products and therefore have no R&D expenses, no transport costs, no factory overhead. The market is dominated by several big names, no competition from the little operator. They insure large groups of people (Group Policies) and charge each member all the same even though only a certain percentage get sick. They play the odds to their advantage and will try to minimize coverage anyway they can.

Spoken like a true idiot socialist.

Competition does more to drive down prices, improve quality, and create the highest level of ethical behavior than a billion regulations ever could. But you've never been one to let the facts get in your way, uh hazl?

 

[P@triot]

How about this....

The payroll holiday ends...
My Health Care premiums are going up next month.
The Tolls for the tunnels and bridges in the NY tri state area are going up next month.
The MTA is raising the fare on the subways and buses..

And if I see one more stupid fucking Lib here say another word about how we need to pay our fair share and all that happy horse shit...

Don't forget gas prices, plus 18 new taxes from Obamacare alone. It's never enough for the greedy, lazy liberal...

 

[P@triot]

And it just keeps getting better. Straight from the IRS itself...

Surprise! IRS Calculates Cheapest ?Obamacare? Plan Will Average $20,000 Per Family | TheBlaze.com

 

[Saigon]

the American people came out in droves trying to stop this disaster

The American people voted Obama into office. Correct?

Stop pretending you are the majority - you aren't.

 

[P@triot]

After promising that AHCA would cost no more than $900 billion over 10 years, we are now up to a minimum estimate of $1.3 trillion (by the CBO) with some estimates as high as $2.6 trillion.

So either Obama is extraordinarily incompetent or is liar. I'd see history has proven he is both.

Obama health law will cost $1.3T, CBO says - The Hill's Healthwatch

Obamacare Now Estimated to Cost $2.6 Trillion in First Decade | The Weekly Standard

 

[francoHFW]

Not double digit increases? OMG! Well, Beckbot, considering rises averaged over 13% under Booosh (DOUBLED in 8 years, for a GOP scam), and Masscare proves all your horrors imaginary how 'bout

STFU with the Pubspam, for idiot dupes ONLY. Read something fer chrissake.

 

[P@triot]

Not double digit increases? OMG! Well, Beckbot, considering rises averaged over 13% under Booosh (DOUBLED in 8 years, for a GOP scam), and Masscare proves all your horrors imaginary how 'bout

STFU with the Pubspam, for idiot dupes ONLY. Read something fer chrissake.

Well stupid, they are not "my" horrors - they come from the CBO

I love how hard you liberal wing-nuts work to spin everything and cover up the failures for your "Dear Leader". I guess Obama's success is more important than your nation failing because of his policies, uh?

 

[P@triot]

And the evidence that Obamacare is an epic disaster continues to pile up. And the idiot liberal dumbocrat fuck'n moron's like Franco can do is scream "pub dupe" as if that means something relevant....

Surprise! IRS Calculates Cheapest ?Obamacare? Plan Will Average $20,000 Per Family | TheBlaze.com

 

[Greenbeard]

Reality check:

Health care price growth plummets – 2012 lowest year since 1998

Health care price growth in December, at 1.7% year-over-year, was three-tenths below November’s reading, and the lowest rate since February 1998. The 12-month moving average at 2.0% is the lowest since a fractionally lower 2.0% figure was recorded in December 1998. [...]

December was the 43rd month of economic expansion but price pressures are nowhere to be found. Indeed, lower PPI and CPI readings are likely exerting downward pressure on the health price index rather than the expected opposite whereby health care prices would be stimulating general inflation. This scenario, in conjunction with aggressive measures that providers are taking to become more efficient, argue for continued price stability (or even another leg down!).

Health insurance premiums see smallest increase in 15 years

The cost of providing health care benefits to employees rose by just 4.1% this year, the smallest increase in 15 years, according to a survey by human resources consultant Mercer.

And employers are expecting to see another modest increase of 5% next year, the survey of 2,800 companies found. That's a far cry from the beginning of the decade, when employers reported increases of 10% to nearly 15% a year. Last year, benefit costs rose by 6.1%.

Growth In Medicare Spending Per Beneficiary Continues To Hit Historic Lows

The slow growth in spending per beneficiary from 2010 to 2012 combined with the projections of spending growth at GDP+0 for 2012-2022 is unprecedented in the history of the Medicare program.

The Budget and Economic Outlook: Fiscal Years 2013 to 2023

Medicaid and Medicare. In recent years, health care spending has grown much more slowly both nationally and for federal programs than historical rates would have indicated. (For example, in 2012, federal spending for Medicare and Medicaid was about 5 percent below the amount that CBO had projected in March 2010.) In response to that slowdown, over the past several years, CBO has made a series of downward technical adjustments to its projections of spending for Medicaid and Medicare. From the March 2010 baseline to the current baseline, such technical revisions have lowered estimates of federal spending for the two programs in 2020 by about $200 billion—by $126 billion for Medicare and by $78 billion for Medicaid, or by roughly 15 percent for each program.

Growth of Health Spending Stays Low

January 7, 2013
WASHINGTON — National health spending climbed to $2.7 trillion in 2011, or an average of $8,700 for every person in the country, but as a share of the economy, it remained stable for the third consecutive year, the Obama administration said Monday.

The rate of increase in health spending, 3.9 percent in 2011, was the same as in 2009 and 2010 — the lowest annual rates recorded in the 52 years the government has been collecting such data.