November, 2010

If the Republicans run on real Freedom & Liberty for the People,they shouldn't have any problems defeating the Socialists/Progressives. Most people i talk to just want the Government to get the H*ll off their backs at this point. The Government has over-stepped. Too much is too much. If the Republicans kick their Neocons/Progressives to the curb,they should win easily. That's my assessment anyway.
 
If the Republicans run on real Freedom & Liberty for the People,they shouldn't have any problems defeating the Socialists/Progressives. Most people i talk to just want the Government to get the H*ll off their backs at this point. The Government has over-stepped. Too much is too much. If the Republicans kick their Neocons/Progressives to the curb,they should win easily. That's my assessment anyway.

I hope you are not getting your hopes up that this will happen.

Immie
 
If the Republicans run on real Freedom & Liberty for the People,they shouldn't have any problems defeating the Socialists/Progressives. Most people i talk to just want the Government to get the H*ll off their backs at this point. The Government has over-stepped. Too much is too much. If the Republicans kick their Neocons/Progressives to the curb,they should win easily. That's my assessment anyway.

Speak clearly of what Freedom and Liberty mean to you. Consider, if you will, that many believe Freedom and security are dichotomic, the more secure you are, the less free you become. With greater freedom, there are more risks and less cost.

PS All socialists are not progressives, though some progressives are socialists. If the R's kick the Neocons to the curb, the R's will lose the hate and fear argument. If they kick the progressive R's to the curb, you're left with the idiot fringe - the social conservatives and the gun lobby.
 
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The Rs, much to many good Republicans' disappointment, have not been able to dump the neocons, the corporatists, and the reactionary loons. 2010 is going to be dismal for the GOP come elections.
 
Well, at least crazy frank made an effort, too bad he can't think beyond one move (i.e. consider the consequences of 'his' ideas).

Well, the R's (and the closest R's, those who dress up in 18th Century garb and hang tea bags off of their hats) will continue the gays, guns, & greed refrain. Seems as if half of the Tea Baggers (sorry, it's too funny not to) are social conservatives, and support Sarah Palin; and the other half are Libertarians and support Ron Paul. One wonders how such odd couples will ever come together, makes 2010 a very interesting time indeed. I guess hate for the president (Racism?) will unite them for one cycle, but my bet is on the American voter - the great moderate middle may see through the hate and fear rhetoric, and elect those who offer pragmatic solutions, not ideology.

80% of the American people distrust Obama Neo-National Socialism. Dems will have to re-brand themselves after the November Debacle
 
The Rs, much to many good Republicans' disappointment, have not been able to dump the neocons, the corporatists, and the reactionary loons. 2010 is going to be dismal for the GOP come elections.

They'll make up some ground in the House and Senate. They almost certainly have to. It took a real alignment of the stars to get the level of control the DNC got in 2010.

I predict 2012 will be dissapointing to a lot of folks on the GOP side though. There's a lot of folks here predicting an easy win over Obama. I don't think he'll get the electoral landslide he got in 2008, but I do think he's heading towards a fairly easy re-election if the GOP can't get its act together.
 
1. Freeze on all government spending. Any new program will be met with "Its not in the Constitution and besides we can't afford it"

Um, so no new programs get funded, what's the problem?

2. Congress to impound any unspent monies (Stimulus, etc)

If it's unspent it should be used to retire debt. If Obama and ACORN need some walking around money they should get a job besides pimping pout underage illegal immigrants

3. End Depression Era programs: Rural Electrification, Tennessee Valley, etc (yes, we're STILL paying for that crap)

Um, yeah, so what's the "Problem"?

4. Immediate robust energy programs (Drilling and fast track nuclear plants)

More energy, less Liberals. Again, What's the problem?

5. Reform ObamaCare until states can sell insurance across state lines and end tax distortion of insurance and allow robust Medical Saving Account program

Insurance gets cheaper, what's the problem?
 
The Rs, much to many good Republicans' disappointment, have not been able to dump the neocons, the corporatists, and the reactionary loons. 2010 is going to be dismal for the GOP come elections.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5CoGJevTuo]YouTube - Deep Purple - You Fool No One[/ame]

Boxer is in trouble in CA and Gillibrand is below 50% in NY.

You Progressives are getting a record setting ass kicking in November
 
Well, at least crazy frank made an effort, too bad he can't think beyond one move (i.e. consider the consequences of 'his' ideas).

Well, the R's (and the closest R's, those who dress up in 18th Century garb and hang tea bags off of their hats) will continue the gays, guns, & greed refrain. Seems as if half of the Tea Baggers (sorry, it's too funny not to) are social conservatives, and support Sarah Palin; and the other half are Libertarians and support Ron Paul. One wonders how such odd couples will ever come together, makes 2010 a very interesting time indeed. I guess hate for the president (Racism?) will unite them for one cycle, but my bet is on the American voter - the great moderate middle may see through the hate and fear rhetoric, and elect those who offer pragmatic solutions, not ideology.

80% of the American people distrust Obama Neo-National Socialism. Dems will have to re-brand themselves after the November Debacle

Frank, in all honesty, it's posts like this which convince me you're ... well you know.
 
I suspect Pubs think they are going to pick up more than 20 House and at least 4 Senate seats. They will be disappointed. Obama will have a fairly easy election run in 2012 and should pick up at least 52% of the vote. The Pubs by then will be realizing they have to a Plan and a Voice and a Leader to win, and they will have at least two of three in place.
 
I suspect Pubs think they are going to pick up more than 20 House and at least 4 Senate seats. They will be disappointed. Obama will have a fairly easy election run in 2012 and should pick up at least 52% of the vote. The Pubs by then will be realizing they have to a Plan and a Voice and a Leader to win, and they will have at least two of three in place.

Interesting use of "pubs" what with you being a Republican and all.

So, Jake, whose paying you to post here?
 
Well, at least crazy frank made an effort, too bad he can't think beyond one move (i.e. consider the consequences of 'his' ideas).

Well, the R's (and the closest R's, those who dress up in 18th Century garb and hang tea bags off of their hats) will continue the gays, guns, & greed refrain. Seems as if half of the Tea Baggers (sorry, it's too funny not to) are social conservatives, and support Sarah Palin; and the other half are Libertarians and support Ron Paul. One wonders how such odd couples will ever come together, makes 2010 a very interesting time indeed. I guess hate for the president (Racism?) will unite them for one cycle, but my bet is on the American voter - the great moderate middle may see through the hate and fear rhetoric, and elect those who offer pragmatic solutions, not ideology.

80% of the American people distrust Obama Neo-National Socialism. Dems will have to re-brand themselves after the November Debacle

Frank, in all honesty, it's posts like this which convince me you're ... well you know.

Frank is silly. Obama continually outpolls the GOP on popularity, and the Americans have not shown any remorse for rejecting the GOP in 2008. Of course my party has done nothing to recoup its stupidity from 2001 to 2006.
 
I suspect Pubs think they are going to pick up more than 20 House and at least 4 Senate seats. They will be disappointed. Obama will have a fairly easy election run in 2012 and should pick up at least 52% of the vote. The Pubs by then will be realizing they have to a Plan and a Voice and a Leader to win, and they will have at least two of three in place.


Does he plan on buying votes?
 
80% of the American people distrust Obama Neo-National Socialism. Dems will have to re-brand themselves after the November Debacle

Frank, in all honesty, it's posts like this which convince me you're ... well you know.

I like Frank, he's a lot of fun on the boards. Don't get him too hard a time.

But I have to admit, when people post claiming that Libs are infiltrating the Tea Parties posing as Con's, I think of Frank. A lot of his posts here line up with some of the signs that people like Malkin claim are from infiltrators.
 
80% of the American people distrust Obama Neo-National Socialism. Dems will have to re-brand themselves after the November Debacle

Frank, in all honesty, it's posts like this which convince me you're ... well you know.

Frank is silly. Obama continually outpolls the GOP on popularity, and the Americans have not shown any remorse for rejecting the GOP in 2008. Of course my party has done nothing to recoup its stupidity from 2001 to 2006.

Which is "your party" again, "pubs" or Progressives?
 
The Rs, much to many good Republicans' disappointment, have not been able to dump the neocons, the corporatists, and the reactionary loons. 2010 is going to be dismal for the GOP come elections.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5CoGJevTuo]YouTube - Deep Purple - You Fool No One[/ame]

Boxer is in trouble in CA and Gillibrand is below 50% in NY.

You Progressives are getting a record setting ass kicking in November

The Democrats may suffer some looses come November. But thinking people with a sense of history know that in politics a week is a lifetime. Remember, the Rs' got their butts kicked in 2006 and in 2008 and history suggests the mood will swing again and the R's will win seats.
However, the R's have swung way right, to consider Sarah Palin as mainstream or incumbent R's as too liberal (or not conservative enough) may result in a one time win, but the prospects of mainstream voters remaining happy with the fringe (Palin, et al) is very unlikely.
 
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The Rs, much to many good Republicans' disappointment, have not been able to dump the neocons, the corporatists, and the reactionary loons. 2010 is going to be dismal for the GOP come elections.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5CoGJevTuo]YouTube - Deep Purple - You Fool No One[/ame]

Boxer is in trouble in CA and Gillibrand is below 50% in NY.

You Progressives are getting a record setting ass kicking in November

The Democrats may suffer some looses come November. But thinking people with a sense of history know that in politics a week is a lifetime. Remember, the Rs' got their butts kicked in 2006 and in 2008 and history suggests the mood will swing again and the R's will win seats.
However, the R's have swung way right, to consider Sarah Palin as mainstream or incumbent R's as too liberal (or not conservative enough) may result in a one time win, but the prospects of mainstream voters remaining happy with the fringe (Palin, et al) is very unlikely.

So when are you going to dazzle me with you 8 moves ahead analysis of my proposals?

Again, Gillibrand can't break 50 in NYS and there's not even a candidate against her!

Boxer is in a dead heat with a three nobodies, you lost a seat where only 11% are Republicans and 80% reject Obama and Democrats Neo-National Socialism governance
 
Run on this:

- tax cuts (or at least continuing the bush tax cuts)
- repealing obamacare
- no more bailouts
- more oil drilling
- less government (and mean it)
 
Palin's fringe? Can you explain, please. I thought she was very popular.

In certain circles, yeah. The Tea Party loves her. The Comedians (Tina Fey, Jon Stewart) love her. The DNC fund raisers love her for the same reason the GOP fund raisers love Pelosi and HRC.

For the moderates she's poison. Take 2008 for example. Indiana has been a solid GOP pick up for a very long time in Presidential elections. Its a state where even the Democrats are Republicans. After 2008 I went home again to Indiana and asked family and friends what the heck happened for McCain to lose that state.

The number one answer: Palin.

Family and friends that never once in their lives voted for a Democrat voted for Obama because Palin scares the crap out of them.

Palin was supposed to be a bid for McCain to energize Conservatives, but even with her he couldn't carry Indiana and North Carolina.
 

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