nova program on melting ice....

[Old Rocks]

It's on TV ... so it MUST be true!

all it was is a time lapse photograph study of a glacier that has retreated 10 miles in the last 30 years...and 1/2 mile each yaer know.......doesn't say why.....just amazing photography.....of icebergs and ice caves and "bottomless" pits.....

lots of other glaciers around the world are increasing their rate of retreat.....people are guessing as to why....doesn't change that it is happening....

hopefully it will get cold again and they will advance.....[/QUOTE]

Carefull...more water locked into ice might very well prove a bad thing for basic human needs across the globe.

It is the arrogance of the global warming community who sounds an alarm on a fabricated crisis when in fact the earth most likely knows better...

That being said, watching those HUGE chunks of ice shelve is an amazing thing - though I do recall watching a film of this back in the 70's when many were screaming over global cooling. Shelving ice can actually be a sign of a too-quickly growing glacier as well...

No, it was not scientists, it was ignormouses in the media. Ignoramouses like you that keep repeating this nonsense.

Did scientists predict an impending ice age in the 1970s?

Did scientists predict an impending ice age in the 1970s?
The skeptic argument...The first Earth Day was celebrated on April 22, 1970, amidst hysteria about the dangers of a new ice age. The media had been spreading warnings of a cooling period since the 1950s, but those alarms grew louder in the 1970s... In 1975, cooling went from “one of the most important problems” to a first-place tie for “death and misery.” The claims of global catastrophe were remarkably similar to what the media deliver now about global warming (source: Fire and Ice).

What the science says...
1970's ice age predictions were predominantly media based with the majority of scientific papers predicting warming.


The notion that the 1970s scientific consensus was for impending global cooling is incorrect. In actuality, there were significantly more papers in the 1970s predicting warming than cooling.


Scientific studies in the 1970's re global cooling
Most predictions of an impending ice age came from the popular press (eg - Newsweek, NY Times, National Geographic, Time Magazine). As far as peer reviewed scientific papers in the 1970s, very few papers (7 in total) predicted global cooling. Significantly more papers (42 in total) predicted global warming due to CO2. More on 1970s science...

 

[Old Rocks]

Environmentalism has become a new age religion with Al Gore as the high priest.
It is nothing more than a modern version of paganism.

LOL. Seems that I have heard this arguement before. Kind of like the religion of Darwinism, you say?

A religion that counts every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University as it's supporters. A pretty strong religion.

 

[Old Rocks]

Environmentalism has become a new age religion with Al Gore as the high priest.
It is nothing more than a modern version of paganism.

No, science is about facts.

CO2 causes the earth to retain heat. This was proven experimentally in 1859. We have increased atmospheric CO2 by 40% in the last 200 years. These are the facts.

Attacking Al Gore has nothing to do with these facts.

I really feel sorry for you.

attacking al gore is fun.....

co2 is good for plants and helps shade the earth....

the ice is melting.....

doing things to reduce your carbon footprint or spew less shit into the air is a good thing.....

The climate is changing, and we may well see a 20% to 40% reduction in the food grown this year because of those changes.

Ice is melting is a huge statement when you consider that nearly every major river in Asia rises in the Himalayas. As the glaciers get smaller, there is less water in the rivers for irrigation in the mid and late summer. In the Artic, less ice means more open water absorbing the suns energy, rather than Ice reflecting that energy back into space. We are already seeing a major feedback as the Artic Ocean clathrates have began to emit CH4.

No matter what we do as individuals, if we do not change our energy base from fossil fuels to renewables, it will make little differance.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes Indeed!

google sonoma mountain village.....i was / am on the team helping to design it....

I am very familiar with that concept - similar to Redmond Ridge in my neck of the woods.

And yet, the PNW enviromentalists continue to scream over Redmond Ridge, declaring it a lie and a sham - that it in fact is raping the environment, etc.

Are you having any similar complaints from environmentalists on your Sonoma Mountain Village project?

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