Nothing to see here, move along...

[Larkinn]

By the way Brian, you never anwsered me when I asked what evidence would convince you.

There have been no less than FOUR reports issues by different agencies, in the US and Iraq, saying that Blackwater was negligent and killed Iraqis needlessly that day. How many more do we need to come to a conclusion? 10? 20?

Oh, and as for the shooting, even if you take the report at its work that there were shots fired, there were shots fired AFTER Blackwater killed an Iraqi civilian.

 

[BrianH]

Communist News Network?

God you are a fucking dumbass. And I posted what numerous sources said, such as the Iraqi government report. Or did you forget about dismissing them with no evidence at all? So much for withholding judgement.

Go ahead, keep dancing around it. How many sources did you post. Since you're claiming that you have these numerous sources.

As far as me being smarter than Gunny, I wouldn't go that far, because it doesn't take a genius to disarm your argument bit by bit.

You're bitching about this incident when one month later, legislation was in the works to fix the problem with Blackwater's immunity. You are arguing a senseless point....wait a second...what is your argument?

 

[BrianH]

By the way Brian, you never anwsered me when I asked what evidence would convince you.

There have been no less than FOUR reports issues by different agencies, in the US and Iraq, saying that Blackwater was negligent and killed Iraqis needlessly that day. How many more do we need to come to a conclusion? 10? 20?

We've gone over this wittle one....did I ever claim they were innocent or guilty?

Oh, and as for the shooting, even if you take the report at its work that there were shots fired, there were shots fired AFTER Blackwater killed an Iraqi civilian.

That's fine and good, but I've never claimed there wasn't a shooting, and that blackwater didn't kill civilians. You're talking yourself in circles dude. Let's call all of the blackwater guards murderous bastards considering only a few of them caused this massacre. This is turning out to be just like your frickin racism ideas. Let's take one study and apply it to the rest of the world. We mind as well call all the marines murderous bastards because of the few in Haditha (who were acquitted by the way) You have a problem with generalizing....which fuels most of your ignorant discussion.

 

[jillian]

Go ahead, keep dancing around it. How many sources did you post. Since you're claiming that you have these numerous sources.

As far as me being smarter than Gunny, I wouldn't go that far, because it doesn't take a genius to disarm your argument bit by bit.

You're bitching about this incident when one month later, legislation was in the works to fix the problem with Blackwater's immunity. You are arguing a senseless point....wait a second...what is your argument?

I'm just kinda wondering when CNN advocated by each according to his ability and to each according to his need. ;oS

Brian, you know I have no issues with you. But I think you're missing something on this issue. Blackwater shouldn't exist in the first place. This country should NEVER have a paramilitary force. They certainly shouldn't now be training them here. We aren't a banana republic .... yet .... I hope.

But it's also clear that those people were massacred that day and regardless of whether steps were taking to get around the immunity issue after the fact, the blackwater folk used innocents for target practice.

 

[BrianH]

I'm just kinda wondering when CNN advocated by each according to his ability and to each according to his need. ;oS

Brian, you know I have no issues with you. But I think you're missing something on this issue. Blackwater shouldn't exist in the first place. This country should NEVER have a paramilitary force. They certainly shouldn't now be training them here. We aren't a banana republic .... yet .... I hope.

But it's also clear that those people were massacred that day and regardless of whether steps were taking to get around the immunity issue after the fact, the blackwater folk used innocents for target practice.

Thanks for posting with a respect. I agree with you 100%. I don't like blackwater either...

However, I partly enjoy giving Larkinn a hard time. And I am partially convinced that Larkinn is not even sure what his own argument is. Is his argument that blackwater shouldn't exist? or that blackwater should be punished? or that blackwater shouldn't be immune? I'm sorry, I just couldn't jump on his bandwagon and make assumptions just taking his word for it as well as a CNN article. He has all of these opinions, and posted only a CNN article as "proof." I needed to do my own research of this before making any claims, and I'm just giving him a hard time until I've found what I'm looking for. I've known that blackwater committed this and that they have a somewhat lax engagement policy. It's partly due to the fact that the U.S. did not sign the 1989 UN Mercenary Convention, and they did not sign an additional protocol of the Geneva Convention in 1977(containing an article that forbids mercenary use). I agree with you Jillian, because you're sensible and intelligent enough to reserve your judgements until you get all of the evidence. Larkinn throws around an emotion-based argument and condemns anyone who he disagrees with. He's called me a aplogist for murderers....he jumped to a conclusion without me ever stating whether I thought they were guilty or innocent. I was waiting for Larkinn to actually post some sources to prove his point, but I ended up having to go out and find them on my own. So basically, I was caught having to research and prove his argument.

 

[Larkinn]

Go ahead, keep dancing around it. How many sources did you post. Since you're claiming that you have these numerous sources.

As far as me being smarter than Gunny, I wouldn't go that far, because it doesn't take a genius to disarm your argument bit by bit.

You're bitching about this incident when one month later, legislation was in the works to fix the problem with Blackwater's immunity. You are arguing a senseless point....wait a second...what is your argument?

No, moron. Blackwater wouldn't normally be immune. They were immune because The DoJ specifically granted them immunity for this act. Legislation won't change that.

 

[Larkinn]

We've gone over this wittle one....did I ever claim they were innocent or guilty?

God, you are slow. I wasn't saying you said they were innocent or guilty. I was asking why you don't think they are guilty, and what would be needed to convince you. You are saying there isn't enough evidence, and attacking all evidence. So, considering there have been FOUR reports saying they are guilty, what more evidence would you like to convince your addle minded self?

That's fine and good, but I've never claimed there wasn't a shooting, and that blackwater didn't kill civilians.

Thats nice. Also irrelevant.

You're talking yourself in circles dude. Let's call all of the blackwater guards murderous bastards considering only a few of them caused this massacre.

Please quote where I said they were all "murderous bastards" or something of the like.

I'm not talking in circles, you just don't know how to read.

However, I partly enjoy giving Larkinn a hard time.

Wait, your a troll? Wow, I never would have guessed.

And I am partially convinced that Larkinn is not even sure what his own argument is. Is his argument that blackwater shouldn't exist? or that blackwater should be punished? or that blackwater shouldn't be immune? I'm sorry, I just couldn't jump on his bandwagon and make assumptions just taking his word for it as well as a CNN article.

Learn the difference between Normative and Descriptive, dumbass. I'm arguing a descriptive pov, not a normative one.

He has all of these opinions, and posted only a CNN article as "proof.

It happened a year ago. I've looked at a lot more than what I've provided you.

Larkinn throws around an emotion-based argument and condemns anyone who he disagrees with. He's called me a aplogist for murderers....he jumped to a conclusion without me ever stating whether I thought they were guilty or innocent.

Considering you started out with an argument consisting of "well it happened in WWII, so its ok now", yeah I called you an apologist. Thats all you are, and it has nothing to do with an emotion based argument.

he jumped to a conclusion without me ever stating whether I thought they were guilty or innocent

I didn't need too. You "withheld belief" in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary and made excuses, and lies up to hide the fact that you didn't know how to respond to my evidence.

Like making up some bullshit about how the Iraqi government can't do an investigation right.

I was waiting for Larkinn to actually post some sources to prove his point, but I ended up having to go out and find them on my own.

Sorry, I'm unable to read your mind. Next time you want sources, ask for them.

 

[Gunny]

Eye witness accounts? Interviews with blackwater guards? Iraqi investigations?

Which of those accounts should I doubt Gunny. All the Iraqi eyewitness accounts corroborate each other. Shall I doubt them because you and Brian don't like the results?

And don't feed me some bullshit about how you don't have an agenda. You already drew up your own conclusions when you stated, point blank, that Blackwater didn't massacre anyone or rip off the US government.

So much for for assuming peoples claims are correct or incorrect, eh? You already came to a conclusion, and apparently without even looking at the evidence.

Nope. I LWAYS assume YOU are incorrect. That's just what I've come to expect from you.

If I have an agenda, it's questioning your use of the word "massacre" and term "ripped off the US government." Exaggerating to support YOUR agenda, as usual. Neither statement is accurate.

Otherwise I DON'T have one.

You do realize the difference between safeguarding someone and avoiding killing them needlessly, right?

Yep. Not hard to figure out.

Oh, they were fired upon, eh? According to who, please.

That would be according to the operatives on the mission.

Not this much collateral damage.

Oh, so you have a measurement then? A specific number between what is enough and what is too much collateral damage? What would that be?

Congrats, your a fuckhead then. Blackwater signed up for this war, they are getting paid a shitload of money to take risks. These Iraqis are just trying to live without getting shot at.

Your opinion of me is worth about what I just cleaned out of the cat's litter box, just to ensure you're clear on that.

As usual, you just CAN'T have a decent conversation without being a smarmy, insufferable ass.

I'll ask you again .. Have YOU ever been fired upon by hostile forces? If you can't say yes, then don't presume to preach to me, civilian dirtbag. Yet here you sit, passing arbitrary judgment on something you don't know a damned thing about.

Blackwater gets paid so tht makes it okay for THEM to get killed, huh? Tell me, what's the price of THEIR lives? How much is substantial?

Iraqi civilians are the enemy now?

Right, cuz I said that.

Killing 17 Iraqi innocents to accomplish exactly NOTHING is NOT a success.

They did not accomplish nothing. They successfully transported their charges from Point A to Point B without harm befalling them.

When your idea of a solution is to have Iraqi extremists just sort of give up because they want too, and blame THEM for Blackwater guards shooting up 17 innocents, then yeah, you need to have a reality check.

No, I don't need a reality check. For one thing, I never said any such thing. That's just your usual bullshit spin.

If anyone needs a reality check, it's you? What do YOU know about combat and killing? Not a goddamned thing but what you watch on TV or see in the news.

STFU and preach to someone else. Why I even continue to bother attempting to have an actual intelligent and honest conversation with you just beats the Hell out of me. Obviously you are incapable.

Too bad Brian hasn't figured that out about you yet.

 

[Larkinn]

Nope. I LWAYS assume YOU are incorrect. That's just what I've come to expect from you.

Then you are a bigger moron than I thought. Impressive, really.

If I have an agenda, it's questioning your use of the word "massacre" and term "ripped off the US government." Exaggerating to support YOUR agenda, as usual. Neither statement is accurate.

Otherwise I DON'T have one.

Sure you don't. And yes, actually, both are accurate. But do keep making the same claims without any supporting evidence.

Yep. Not hard to figure out.

Then whats the difficulty? They don't need to safeguard Iraqi civilians, but they DO need to avoid killing them needlessly.

That would be according to the operatives on the mission.

And of course you believe them without doubt. I mean its not like they don't want to be prosecuted for killing a bunch of innocent people or something, eh?

Oh, so you have a measurement then? A specific number between what is enough and what is too much collateral damage? What would that be?

Nice non-sequiter. You don't need to have a bright line rule to know that something falls egregiously to one side of said line.

Your opinion of me is worth about what I just cleaned out of the cat's litter box, just to ensure you're clear on that.

Yeah, you've said that about 10 times now. Do you really think I give a shit about what you think my opinion of you is worth?

As usual, you just CAN'T have a decent conversation without being a smarmy, insufferable ass.

The last conversation we had was where you ripped in, was a total complete little bitch, and decided to trash me for fun. Sorry if I don't greet your comments with love and affection.

I'll ask you again .. Have YOU ever been fired upon by hostile forces? If you can't say yes, then don't presume to preach to me, civilian dirtbag.

I haven't. And congrats on showing your agenda, crystal clear, murderous dickhead.

Yet here you sit, passing arbitrary judgment on something you don't know a damned thing about.

Spare me the santimonious bullshit. I don't need to be fired upon to know that killing 17 innocent civilians is a great big fuck up.

Blackwater gets paid so tht makes it okay for THEM to get killed, huh? Tell me, what's the price of THEIR lives? How much is substantial?

Oh, yes, lets do talk about the price of lives Gunny. Since you are justifying the death of 17 innocent Iraqis and saying the mission was a "success" to carry one person from point A to point B. Since you've said its acceptable for them to die to transport someone, how much are their lives worth? Not very much it seems.

They did not accomplish nothing. They successfully transported their charges from Point A to Point B without harm befalling them.

Oh, well cheers to them. And with only 17 dead innocent civilians, clearly the mission was a resounding success.

No, I don't need a reality check. For one thing, I never said any such thing. That's just your usual bullshit spin.

Sure you didn't.

If anyone needs a reality check, it's you? What do YOU know about combat and killing? Not a goddamned thing but what you watch on TV or see in the news.

Then enlighten me Gunny. Tell me how its justified for a convoy of Guards to fire the first shots and kill 17 Iraqi civilians to transport someone from point A to point B.

And what do you know about law? Not a goddamned thing. But yet you type out your moronic views about the gay marriage laws and equal protection.

STFU and preach to someone else.

You challenged me, asshat. And I'll talk whenever the hell I feel like it, so shove your agenda and your defense of murderers up your ass.

Why I even continue to bother attempting to have an actual intelligent and honest conversation with you just beats the Hell out of me. Obviously you are incapable.

Too bad Brian hasn't figured that out about you yet.

Your idea is an intelligent conversation is against someone too stupid to debate you well. Sorry that you think that when you get your ass kicked because you say stupid shit like Blackwater never massacred anyone, that you find that unintelligent.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Larkinn you can not be serious? You are aware of course that Suicide Trucks and cars are in use over there? YES? Or maybe you do not know that cause your a retard?

They did not open fire for no reason. They believed a car was bearing down on them intent on detonating itself to kill them and their charge. Simple concept, you dumb shit.

After they fired on that car other fir=ing occurred they believed it was directed at them. So they respo0nded. Again SOP. They have a job to do and safe guarding that person was their duty. Iraqi military have admitted at least once that after the vehicle was attacked they OPENED fire in the area. This may have been the firing, or it is entirely possible that terrorists opened fire, YOU do not know, nor do the Iraqis.

Who am I going to believe? The Guards, since they do NOT have a track record of making shit up not wantonly murdering people when they do their job on a DAILY basis in numerous places ACROSS that country.

Why would they need to lie? They are immune as you have pointed out. They could admit they woke up that morning and had a drawing to see who would kill the most Iraqis and the worst that could happen is they would get fired. You have no reason to doubt them. However we have LOTS of reasons to doubt the Iraqis.

 

[Larkinn]

Larkinn you can not be serious? You are aware of course that Suicide Trucks and cars are in use over there? YES? Or maybe you do not know that cause your a retard?

They did not open fire for no reason. They believed a car was bearing down on them intent on detonating itself to kill them and their charge. Simple concept, you dumb shit.

After they fired on that car other fir=ing occurred they believed it was directed at them. So they respo0nded. Again SOP. They have a job to do and safe guarding that person was their duty. Iraqi military have admitted at least once that after the vehicle was attacked they OPENED fire in the area. This may have been the firing, or it is entirely possible that terrorists opened fire, YOU do not know, nor do the Iraqis.

Who am I going to believe? The Guards, since they do NOT have a track record of making shit up not wantonly murdering people when they do their job on a DAILY basis in numerous places ACROSS that country.

Why would they need to lie? They are immune as you have pointed out. They could admit they woke up that morning and had a drawing to see who would kill the most Iraqis and the worst that could happen is they would get fired. You have no reason to doubt them. However we have LOTS of reasons to doubt the Iraqis.

What a surprise. You think Americans are trustworthy and Iraqis aren't. Nice bit of racism there, RGS.

Oh, and you got your facts wrong, as usual. The DoJ offered them immunity AFTER the shootings.

Oh, and according to FOUR different reports, Blackwater was at fault. Who should I believe, them who actually went there and looked at the situation, or you who doesn't even know the basic facts?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What a surprise. You think Americans are trustworthy and Iraqis aren't. Nice bit of racism there, RGS.

Oh, and you got your facts wrong, as usual. The DoJ offered them immunity AFTER the shootings.

Oh, and according to FOUR different reports, Blackwater was at fault. Who should I believe, them who actually went there and looked at the situation, or you who doesn't even know the basic facts?

You are an idiot, but we already know that. The iraq Government has a vested interest in finding them at fault. But more importantly, even at fault they did not set out to massacre anyone, nor do they do so on any set routine. They escort people all over that country and all you have is a couple examples of what is accidents or mistakes in judgement made in the heat of a dangerous situation. It is neither endemic or wide spread.
YOUR bullshit antics are however endemic and WIDE SPREAD.

At worst this is a case of the escort making a mistake in good faith and reacting to what they believed was a danger to their charge. With the fire power they had they would have killed a whole lot more than 17 people if they wanted to just mow people down.

YOU need a reality check.

 

[BrianH]

I've got new word for Larkin....this is usually mani's area. But we may all like this one.

Shemptard = The Good Shepard

Artard = Allie (correct?)

How about Lartard = Larkinn??

Larkinn, what your problem is?

You claim that you have all of this evidence, but have not posted a damn thing but a CNN article. You bitch and moan that I'm not acknowledging the evidence you've posted when YOU HAVEN'T posted any.....As far as I'm concerned, all of your bull shit that you type is Bull Shit. You want credit for your arguments and "evidence" then post an article to back up your evidence. You act like you've never written a frickin research paper in your life. Let me tell you how it works. You post your opinion, then cite a source that caused you to develop your opinion.

Asf ar as the rest, I'll take Gunny's advice and quit engaging you intellectually because it's obvious that you are unable to do so. Good Luck Lartard.

 

[Gunny]

Then you are a bigger moron than I thought. Impressive, really.



Sure you don't. And yes, actually, both are accurate. But do keep making the same claims without any supporting evidence.



Then whats the difficulty? They don't need to safeguard Iraqi civilians, but they DO need to avoid killing them needlessly.



And of course you believe them without doubt. I mean its not like they don't want to be prosecuted for killing a bunch of innocent people or something, eh?



Nice non-sequiter. You don't need to have a bright line rule to know that something falls egregiously to one side of said line.



Yeah, you've said that about 10 times now. Do you really think I give a shit about what you think my opinion of you is worth?



The last conversation we had was where you ripped in, was a total complete little bitch, and decided to trash me for fun. Sorry if I don't greet your comments with love and affection.



I haven't. And congrats on showing your agenda, crystal clear, murderous dickhead.



Spare me the santimonious bullshit. I don't need to be fired upon to know that killing 17 innocent civilians is a great big fuck up.



Oh, yes, lets do talk about the price of lives Gunny. Since you are justifying the death of 17 innocent Iraqis and saying the mission was a "success" to carry one person from point A to point B. Since you've said its acceptable for them to die to transport someone, how much are their lives worth? Not very much it seems.



Oh, well cheers to them. And with only 17 dead innocent civilians, clearly the mission was a resounding success.



Sure you didn't.



Then enlighten me Gunny. Tell me how its justified for a convoy of Guards to fire the first shots and kill 17 Iraqi civilians to transport someone from point A to point B.

And what do you know about law? Not a goddamned thing. But yet you type out your moronic views about the gay marriage laws and equal protection.



You challenged me, asshat. And I'll talk whenever the hell I feel like it, so shove your agenda and your defense of murderers up your ass.



Your idea is an intelligent conversation is against someone too stupid to debate you well. Sorry that you think that when you get your ass kicked because you say stupid shit like Blackwater never massacred anyone, that you find that unintelligent.

My idea of an intelligent conversation doesn't include 'tards like you. Once again. please stop deluding yourself. You claim to kick everyone's ass when the reality is, you probably can't even kick your own.

Massacre

1. the unnecessary, indiscriminate killing of a large number of human beings or animals, as in barbarous warfare or persecution or for revenge or plunder.
2. a general slaughter, as of persons or animals: the massacre of millions during the war.

www. dictionay.com

Please note, dweebus, the first definition is caveated by LARGE FUCKING NUMBER OF PEOPLE and the second by MILLIONS. I even highlighted the words just for you so you don't really have to look. Not 17. Seventeen people ain't shit.

You're supposed to be the literalist here, but you just got served by the dictionary, junior.

So all that breaking down paragraphs into sentences into words to spin however you please to suit your bullshit arguments was wasted time.

You purposefully misused a word to blow the incident out of proportion.

Go back to your hole. I'm done with you.

 

[Larkinn]

You are an idiot, but we already know that. The iraq Government has a vested interest in finding them at fault.

How about the US military?

Or maybe the FBI?

And no, they don't. Maliki likes the Americans, he doesn't want them to leave. One the US leaves, hes suddenly got to deal with reality.

But more importantly, even at fault they did not set out to massacre anyone, nor do they do so on any set routine.

Who said they did?

They escort people all over that country and all you have is a couple examples of what is accidents or mistakes in judgement made in the heat of a dangerous situation. It is neither endemic or wide spread.

I never said it was endemic or wide spread.

YOUR bullshit antics are however endemic and WIDE SPREAD.

Wow, you are a dumbass. Can't you come up with better lines than that?

At worst this is a case of the escort making a mistake in good faith and reacting to what they believed was a danger to their charge.

Oh? Evidence for this?

With the fire power they had they would have killed a whole lot more than 17 people if they wanted to just mow people down.

YOU need a reality check.

You are an idiot. They weren't serial killers. But they are murderers.

 

[Larkinn]

I've got new word for Larkin....this is usually mani's area. But we may all like this one.

Shemptard = The Good Shepard

Artard = Allie (correct?)

How about Lartard = Larkinn??

Wow...you sure are creative.

Larkinn, what your problem is?

That I am talking to someone with the intellectual capacity of a four year old? Yeah, it sucks.

You claim that you have all of this evidence, but have not posted a damn thing but a CNN article.

I've posted facts, jackass. You think something only counts as a fact if the MSM says it?

You bitch and moan that I'm not acknowledging the evidence you've posted when YOU HAVEN'T posted any.....As far as I'm concerned, all of your bull shit that you type is Bull Shit.

Except that you looked at Wiki and found the large majority of my claims corroborated.

You want credit for your arguments and "evidence" then post an article to back up your evidence. You act like you've never written a frickin research paper in your life. Let me tell you how it works. You post your opinion, then cite a source that caused you to develop your opinion.

I'm not writing a research paper. If you want a source, ask me for one. I'm not going to go searching for sources if you don't ask, dumbass. Especially not for someone who is as much of a hypocrite as you are.

Tell me again how you are "withholding judgement". Well not on the Iraqis...only when Blackwater massacres civilians.

Asf ar as the rest, I'll take Gunny's advice and quit engaging you intellectually because it's obvious that you are unable to do so. Good Luck Lartard.

Son, you don't know what intellectualism is. So much for selling yourself as the poor boy who succeeded. Seems to me your "success" didn't provide you with much intellect at all.

 

[Larkinn]

My idea of an intelligent conversation doesn't include 'tards like you. Once again. please stop deluding yourself. You claim to kick everyone's ass when the reality is, you probably can't even kick your own.

Which is why you run off screaming like the little bitch you are whenever you try to engage me.

Please note, dweebus, the first definition is caveated by LARGE FUCKING NUMBER OF PEOPLE and the second by MILLIONS. I even highlighted the words just for you so you don't really have to look. Not 17. Seventeen people ain't shit.

Define large.

Seventeen people aren't shit? So much for your bullshit pretending you actually give a fuck about people.

You're supposed to be the literalist here, but you just got served by the dictionary, junior.

No, you just have no idea what the word large means and how completely and utter subjective it is.

So all that breaking down paragraphs into sentences into words to spin however you please to suit your bullshit arguments was wasted time.

You purposefully misused a word to blow the incident out of proportion.

Go back to your hole. I'm done with you.

Sure, your done with me like the last 10 times you've said that. Your a masochist, bitch, you love getting your ass kicked.

Oh, and don't call me the literalist when you go around preaching and whining about the term liar. Especially after you use it incorrectly yourself.

 

[Larkinn]

By the way, Gunny...

I don't think those who lived through Columbine would agree that "17 people ain't shit".

 

[BrianH]

Wow...you sure are creative.



That I am talking to someone with the intellectual capacity of a four year old? Yeah, it sucks.



I've posted facts, jackass. You think something only counts as a fact if the MSM says it?



Except that you looked at Wiki and found the large majority of my claims corroborated.



I'm not writing a research paper. If you want a source, ask me for one. I'm not going to go searching for sources if you don't ask, dumbass. Especially not for someone who is as much of a hypocrite as you are.

Tell me again how you are "withholding judgement". Well not on the Iraqis...only when Blackwater massacres civilians.

Have you heard me Judge them at all??? Guilty or innocent.....that's called witholding judgement dumbass.

Son, you don't know what intellectualism is. So much for selling yourself as the poor boy who succeeded. Seems to me your "success" didn't provide you with much intellect at all.

First off, I'd say I'm not your son, and it's damn good thing, because fathers don't do well with sons who are smarter than they are. I've stuffed your ass full of intellectual and common frickin sense...."Not all racism is bad Lartard...." What a big load of intellectualism you've laid at our feet. Your problem is the same as TGS, you frickin read something and somehow think it's true because you read it in a book or on the internet. You hear a negative story about something you already don't like and automatically pull a John Murtha and condemn them because you don't like them. You're the guy they kick out of the Jury because your biased.

Notice the embolded...you should have already researched sources before claiming what you have. ALso, if you make a frickin claim, it is your job to post sources and prove what you claim. I'm not going to hold you by the hand and lead you down a discussion so that you can get it right. I'm going to bust your balls until you post some sources. I could sit here all day and try to tell you that racism doesn't exist at all and claim that I've researched it....But then again, my opinion wouldn't be worth shit because I havn't posted any sources. You needed to get it through your thick-skull and into your peanut brain that if you make a claim, post evidence and sources to back it up.

I hope you enjoy the taste of bull shit, because that's all that's been coming out of your mouth for weeks now.

 

[BrianH]

By the way, Gunny...

I don't think those who lived through Columbine would agree that "17 people ain't shit".

Um...last I checked, Columbine wasn't in a warzone for one. Hmm...are you going to claim now that blackwater was behind that one too? Second, there wasn't 17 killed at Columbine...do some research that you claim you do.

And for the record, 17 people is nothing compared to millions Saddam killed....get a life and get over the harsh realities of war....In other words, GROW UP. Are you going to bitch and cry on the internet every time something bad happens...as if you are going to change it or magically bitch and cry it out of existence?