Not only the pill, but sex changes?

[eflatminor]

Seriously, Jillian?
Is there anything that liberals AREN'T willing to pay for?
Bringing in AIDS or STD's is not a very good arguement on this subject. just sayin....

I know Sandra isn't a misguided college student, but what she IS, is a full blown activist for socializing medicine....you seem to be, also.

Correction:

"Is there anything that liberals AREN'T willing to demand someone else pay for?"

that's interesting given that i pay a much higher percentage of my income in taxes than your beloved romney does.

Non sequitur.

 

[stars]

she's an extremist whore who deserves to be placed in jail

 

[Meister]

is an insurance company 'we'?

i don't think so.

and do you whine and cry because insurance companies pay for rushbo's little blue pills?

Insurance companies didn't pay for rushbo's little blue pills, Jillian.

of course they did...and if they didn't pay for rushbo's, i can't imagine why since viagra is covered by most policies.

No, Viagra isn't covered by most policies, Jillian

 

[jillian]

Insurance companies didn't pay for rushbo's little blue pills, Jillian.

of course they did...and if they didn't pay for rushbo's, i can't imagine why since viagra is covered by most policies.

No, Viagra isn't covered by most policies, Jillian

they do. the companies that cover birth control cover viagra.

only no one has to ask an employer for permission to have it covered.

We couldn’t find any data that show a disparity between health insurance companies that cover Viagra and those that cover birth control. The full range of contraceptives, in fact, are covered by more than 86 percent of private insurance plans written for employers.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/07/mccains-viagra-moment/

 

[jillian]

Oh...my...God...

You're serious.

You're serious about "dysphoria" being a "real" illness, which is pathetic enough but that you expect taxpayers to foot the bill? Unbelievable! What next, taxpayer boob jobs because women with little tits have an "illness"?

Wow, just wow.

i can't help it if you're ignorant. i'm pretty sure that you've never known anyone transgendered and i'm pretty sure you don't know anything about them.

so, just wow...

at your ignorance. *shrug*

And there you have it folks. Not only does the Left consider someone wanting to change their sex to be a legitimate "illness", they expect the rest of us to be force to pay for the operation.

Next up, boob jobs, penis enlargement, hair transplants and facelifts...all covered by other people's money. It's an "illness" don't cha know!

FUBAR!

the things you mention are cosmetic and are generally paid for by the people purchasing them.

it's very funny having stupid people call me names, though.

 

[tjvh]

well, gender dysphoria is a real illness. should they not get treatment for that illness?

Oh...my...God...

You're serious.

You're serious about "dysphoria" being a "real" illness, which is pathetic enough but that you expect taxpayers to foot the bill? Unbelievable! What next, taxpayer boob jobs because women with little tits have an "illness"?

Wow, just wow.

Sorry... Buffalo, NY Teachers already get Taxpayer funded Boob jobs. Teachers receive free plastic surgery in Buffalo, NY - CBS Atlanta 46
Teachers in Buffalo have the best racks in the US (because they get free boob-jobs on the tax payer)

 

[eflatminor]

Insurance companies didn't pay for rushbo's little blue pills, Jillian.

of course they did...and if they didn't pay for rushbo's, i can't imagine why since viagra is covered by most policies.

No, Viagra isn't covered by most policies, Jillian

Correct, and more importantly, government isn't (or at least shouldn't) be MANDATING what's provided in a health insurance policy. Let the market meet demand for various forms and amounts of coverage without the damn government meddling. A big part of the reason health insurance costs have skyrocketed is government mandating that everything under the sun be covered. And this idiot wants sex change operations covered! Can you believe this crap?!

 

[jillian]

of course they did...and if they didn't pay for rushbo's, i can't imagine why since viagra is covered by most policies.

No, Viagra isn't covered by most policies, Jillian

Correct, and more importantly, government isn't (or at least shouldn't) be MANDATING what's provided in a health insurance policy. Let the market meet demand for various forms and amounts of coverage without the damn government meddling. A big part of the reason health insurance costs have skyrocketed is government mandating that everything under the sun be covered. And this idiot wants sex change operations covered! Can you believe this crap?!

once again, you know nothing. see link above to factcheck.org.

now run along

 

[eflatminor]

i can't help it if you're ignorant. i'm pretty sure that you've never known anyone transgendered and i'm pretty sure you don't know anything about them.

so, just wow...

at your ignorance. *shrug*

And there you have it folks. Not only does the Left consider someone wanting to change their sex to be a legitimate "illness", they expect the rest of us to be force to pay for the operation.

Next up, boob jobs, penis enlargement, hair transplants and facelifts...all covered by other people's money. It's an "illness" don't cha know!

FUBAR!

the things you mention are cosmetic and are paid for by the people purchasing them.

it's very funny having stupid people call me names, though.

How stupid are you to say I called you a "name" when I did not? Pretty fucking stupid I'd say.

But to the point: A sex change operation is NOT cosmetic? Why? Because you and the other nanny state meddlers say it's an illness? Horse hockey. There is NOTHING that will harm the health of a person that wishes they were the other sex anymore than a person that wishes they had a full head of hair. Both operations are cosmetic.

 

[Meister]

A good read:

In the year before surgery, counseling can cost $50 to $200 per session, and letters from two therapists usually are needed for surgery; the total cost of the therapy and the letters can range from under $1,000 to more than $5,000 for that year. And hormone therapy could cost $300 to $2,400 for the year, depending on which hormones are prescribed. TSRoadmap.com offers a detailed financial worksheets and estimates on the all the costs of transition, and estimates that it is typical to spend a total of $40,000 to $50,000 for a mid-range transition, including surgery.
For patients not covered by health insurance, the typical cost of a sex reassignment surgery can range from about $15,000 for just reconstruction of the genitals to about $25,000 for operations on the genitals and chest to $50,000 or more for procedures that include operations to make facial features more masculine or feminine. Prices typically depend on the techniques used -- different techniques often are recommended based on body type and patient preference.
Price examples include The Philadelphia Center for Transgender Surgery, where basic male-to-female surgery that includes testicle removal, genital surgery and breast augmentation would cost a little over $30,000 while for basic female-to-male surgery that includes mastectomy, areolar reduction and genital surgery, would cost between $12,000 and $25,000 depending on the type of genital surgery chosen. Because different doctors offer different procedures, it is important to check to see exactly what is offered for a certain price.

Cost of Sex Reassignment Surgery - Consumer Information and Prices Paid - CostHelper.com

 

[eflatminor]

well, gender dysphoria is a real illness. should they not get treatment for that illness?

Oh...my...God...

You're serious.

You're serious about "dysphoria" being a "real" illness, which is pathetic enough but that you expect taxpayers to foot the bill? Unbelievable! What next, taxpayer boob jobs because women with little tits have an "illness"?

Wow, just wow.

Sorry... Buffalo, NY Teachers already get Taxpayer funded Boob jobs. Teachers receive free plastic surgery in Buffalo, NY - CBS Atlanta 46
Teachers in Buffalo have the best racks in the US (because they get free boob-jobs on the tax payer)

But, but, but...Jilly told us those were just cosmetic and not paid for by taxpayers. What next, are we to believe she's full of shit? Say it isn't so!

 

[eflatminor]

No, Viagra isn't covered by most policies, Jillian

Correct, and more importantly, government isn't (or at least shouldn't) be MANDATING what's provided in a health insurance policy. Let the market meet demand for various forms and amounts of coverage without the damn government meddling. A big part of the reason health insurance costs have skyrocketed is government mandating that everything under the sun be covered. And this idiot wants sex change operations covered! Can you believe this crap?!

once again, you know nothing. see link above to factcheck.org.

now run along

Wow are you wrong. Viagra can be covered under a health insurance policy if the insurance carrier chooses to provide such coverage. That's a VERY different thing from government forcing it on the industry.

now run along...

 

[tjvh]

Oh...my...God...

You're serious.

You're serious about "dysphoria" being a "real" illness, which is pathetic enough but that you expect taxpayers to foot the bill? Unbelievable! What next, taxpayer boob jobs because women with little tits have an "illness"?

Wow, just wow.

Sorry... Buffalo, NY Teachers already get Taxpayer funded Boob jobs. Teachers receive free plastic surgery in Buffalo, NY - CBS Atlanta 46
Teachers in Buffalo have the best racks in the US (because they get free boob-jobs on the tax payer)

But, but, but...Jilly told us those were just cosmetic and not paid for by taxpayers. What next, are we to believe she's full of shit? Say it isn't so!

If she said it isn't happening then Jilly is wrong isn't she. Because the Taxpayer's in Buffalo are paying for their Teachers to have Boob jobs.

 

[jillian]

Sorry... Buffalo, NY Teachers already get Taxpayer funded Boob jobs. Teachers receive free plastic surgery in Buffalo, NY - CBS Atlanta 46
Teachers in Buffalo have the best racks in the US (because they get free boob-jobs on the tax payer)

But, but, but...Jilly told us those were just cosmetic and not paid for by taxpayers. What next, are we to believe she's full of shit? Say it isn't so!

If she said it isn't happening then Jilly is wrong isn't she. Because the Taxpayer's in Buffalo are paying for their Teachers to have Boob jobs.

jilly said 'generally'. and while i haven't had the chance to read your article yet, i'm going to be they're going to have to reimburse the insurance carriers.

oh...and for the records, the taxpayers of buffalo aren't the insurance company...and the insurance company isn't the 'taxpayers of buffalo'.

i'm also kind of wondering how the trolls on this thread went from insurance coverage for a medically diagnosed illness to talking about 'boob jobs'.

shows where the trolls' heads are.

 

[Meister]

of course they did...and if they didn't pay for rushbo's, i can't imagine why since viagra is covered by most policies.

No, Viagra isn't covered by most policies, Jillian

they do. the companies that cover birth control cover viagra.

only no one has to ask an employer for permission to have it covered.

We couldn’t find any data that show a disparity between health insurance companies that cover Viagra and those that cover birth control. The full range of contraceptives, in fact, are covered by more than 86 percent of private insurance plans written for employers.

FactCheck.org : McCain’s Viagra Moment

Some of the nation's biggest health insurers have decided not to pay for Viagra, the new male impotence drug, under their prescription drug plans. They said that providing the recommended 6 to 12 pills per month would be too expensive, adding hundreds of millions of dollars to annual costs.
Many Insurers Are Deciding Not to Cover Cost of Viagra - NYTimes.com

 

[tjvh]

But, but, but...Jilly told us those were just cosmetic and not paid for by taxpayers. What next, are we to believe she's full of shit? Say it isn't so!

If she said it isn't happening then Jilly is wrong isn't she. Because the Taxpayer's in Buffalo are paying for their Teachers to have Boob jobs.

jilly said 'generally'. and while i haven't had the chance to read your article yet, i'm going to be they're going to have to reimburse the insurance carriers.

oh...and for the records, the taxpayers of buffalo aren't the insurance company...and the insurance company isn't the 'taxpayers of buffalo'.

i'm also kind of wondering how the trolls on this thread went from insurance coverage for a medically diagnosed illness to talking about 'boob jobs'.

shows where the trolls' heads are.

Thus the reason I opened my previous post with the word IF. The Taxpayer's pay for the Teachers, and the Teachers Union negotiates their cushy (really) Insurance plans which by proxy, the Taxpayer also pays for.

 

[daveman]

Seriously, Jillian?
Is there anything that liberals AREN'T willing to pay for?
Bringing in AIDS or STD's is not a very good arguement on this subject. just sayin....

I know Sandra isn't a misguided college student, but what she IS, is a full blown activist for socializing medicine....you seem to be, also.

Correction:

"Is there anything that liberals AREN'T willing to demand someone else pay for?"

that's interesting given that i pay a much higher percentage of my income in taxes than your beloved romney does.

Have you thanked your wealthy Democratic leadership for their part in that? Because, you know, they may talk like they want the rich to pay more -- but they keep voting for tax laws that let them pay less than you think they should.

 

[Ravi]

Apparently, Sandra Fluke not only wants Obamacare to pay for the "pill" but also to have sex changes covered by insurance....really?


Sandra Fluke supports mandatory coverage of sex change surgery

irth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if “gender reassignment” surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.
The title of the article . . . is “Employment Discrimination Against LGBTQ Persons” and was published in the Journal’s 2011 Annual Review.
Transgender persons wishing to undergo the gender reassignment process frequently face heterosexist employer health insurance policies that label the surgery as cosmetic or medically unnecessary and therefore uncovered.
Sandra Fluke supports mandatory coverage of sex change surgery « Wintery Knight

So Sandra (pre), Steve (post) wants a sex change too?
I thought she was just a misguided college student....who knew she was an over the top nutcase activist that was hired by the DNC to speak.

well, gender dysphoria is a real illness. should they not get treatment for that illness?

do we not treat AIDS and STD's because some disapprove of how one might get those illnesses?

Proposed Revision | APA DSM-5

Proposed Revision | APA DSM-5

Seriously, Jillian?
Is there anything that liberals AREN'T willing to pay for?
Bringing in AIDS or STD's is not a very good arguement on this subject. just sayin....

I know Sandra isn't a misguided college student, but what she IS, is a full blown activist for socializing medicine....you seem to be, also.

Can you tell me, please in small syllables, why anyone would want to have their gender changed just for the hell of it?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Meister]

well, gender dysphoria is a real illness. should they not get treatment for that illness?

do we not treat AIDS and STD's because some disapprove of how one might get those illnesses?

Proposed Revision | APA DSM-5

Proposed Revision | APA DSM-5

Seriously, Jillian?
Is there anything that liberals AREN'T willing to pay for?
Bringing in AIDS or STD's is not a very good arguement on this subject. just sayin....

I know Sandra isn't a misguided college student, but what she IS, is a full blown activist for socializing medicine....you seem to be, also.

Can you tell me, please in small syllables, why anyone would want to have their gender changed just for the hell of it?

Thanks in advance!

I know it's not because of a disease.
I could only guess that it's because a gay person would rather go the whole route of a sex change, Ravi. But, like I said, it's only a guess.

 

[Ravi]

Seriously, Jillian?
Is there anything that liberals AREN'T willing to pay for?
Bringing in AIDS or STD's is not a very good arguement on this subject. just sayin....

I know Sandra isn't a misguided college student, but what she IS, is a full blown activist for socializing medicine....you seem to be, also.

Can you tell me, please in small syllables, why anyone would want to have their gender changed just for the hell of it?

Thanks in advance!

I know it's not because of a disease.
I could only guess that it's because a gay person would rather go the whole route of a sex change, Ravi. But, like I said, it's only a guess.

I don't think it really has a whole lot to do with sex.