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[saveliberty]

Syracuse University Student Deported After Gun Store Owner Prevents Potential School Shooting

Syracuse University Student Deported After Gun Store Owner Prevents Potential School Shooting


The actions of a small-town gun store owner helped police short-circuit what they believe was a Syracuse University student’s plan to commit a mass shooting.

As a result, Xiaoteng Zhan, 22, was deported to his home country of China last month, according to Syracuse.com. Police did not reveal the incident had taken place until Friday.

In early March, Zhan visited The Gun Store in the Madison County town of Nelson, population 1,980, shop owner John Laubscher told Syracuse.com. The town is about 15 miles from Syracuse. Laubscher said Zhan wanted an AR-15.

Laubscher described Zhan as “on the edge” and said his lack of understanding about guns made him stand out.

As a result of his concerns, Laubscher refused to sell Zhan a gun.

However, Syracuse University acted in the meantime to withdraw Zhan’s status as a student, which meant his visa to study in the U.S. was no longer valid. So, when he returned from spring break on March 20, officials deported him.

This is a text book example of how the gun shop, police, the school and concerned friends can work together.

 

[miketx]

No doubt MSM will not touch. They hate it when one of their robots is stopped before the murders.

 

[saveliberty]

The common thread here was reporting, follow up and action.

 

[saveliberty]

No doubt MSM will not touch. They hate it when one of their robots is stopped before the murders.

It begs the question, how strong is the vetting on student visas.

 

[miketx]

The common thread here was reporting, follow up and action.

Agree. And notice how when all he could get was a crippled AR, he went right to the next weapons that would give his result he wanted. That's what happens when liberals want to ban a type of gun. Criminals will go to the next available weapon. If there are no guns, something just as deadly will be used.

 

[saveliberty]

Agree. And notice how when all he could get was a crippled AR, he went right to the next weapons that would give his result he wanted. That's what happens when liberals want to ban a type of gun. Criminals will go to the next available weapon. If there are no guns, something just as deadly will be used.

The university was helpful too in revoking his student status, that reduced the time frame he could have caused a problem.

Keeping this story out of the news is terrible. It could be a valuable tool in educating people to the right things to do in preventing tragedies.

 

[JGalt]

I see Xiaoteng Zhan carrying out a mass knife attack in some subway in China, sometime soon.

Glad the gun shop owner saw through him and he was was sent packing.

 

[saveliberty]

Seems he didn't miss a beat with the AR-15 and went immediately to shotguns. An interesting insight into the mind of a potential mass murderer.

 

[miketx]

Seems he didn't miss a beat with the AR-15 and went immediately to shotguns. An interesting insight into the mind of a potential mass murderer.

And how specific gun bans do nothing. It's like pot being a gateway drug, they will institute one weapon ban at a time.

 

[saveliberty]

Providing for the common defense through common sense.

 

[BULLDOG]

No doubt MSM will not touch. They hate it when one of their robots is stopped before the murders.

It begs the question, how strong is the vetting on student visas.

It begs the question, why didn't he just go to an individual seller? Nobody could have turned him in, because there is no requirement to even give his name.

 

[saveliberty]

No doubt MSM will not touch. They hate it when one of their robots is stopped before the murders.

It begs the question, how strong is the vetting on student visas.

It begs the question, why didn't he just go to an individual seller? Nobody could have turned him in, because there is no requirement to even give his name.

Seems like you are suppose to not be a felon, that would mean some level of vetting. Someone withholding their name would be reason enough for me to make a no sale.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Syracuse University Student Deported After Gun Store Owner Prevents Potential School Shooting

Syracuse University Student Deported After Gun Store Owner Prevents Potential School Shooting


The actions of a small-town gun store owner helped police short-circuit what they believe was a Syracuse University student’s plan to commit a mass shooting.

As a result, Xiaoteng Zhan, 22, was deported to his home country of China last month, according to Syracuse.com. Police did not reveal the incident had taken place until Friday.

In early March, Zhan visited The Gun Store in the Madison County town of Nelson, population 1,980, shop owner John Laubscher told Syracuse.com. The town is about 15 miles from Syracuse. Laubscher said Zhan wanted an AR-15.

Laubscher described Zhan as “on the edge” and said his lack of understanding about guns made him stand out.

As a result of his concerns, Laubscher refused to sell Zhan a gun.

However, Syracuse University acted in the meantime to withdraw Zhan’s status as a student, which meant his visa to study in the U.S. was no longer valid. So, when he returned from spring break on March 20, officials deported him.

This is a text book example of how the gun shop, police, the school and concerned friends can work together.

It’s also a textbook example of a hasty generalization fallacy.

It’s gratifying that a potential act of gun violence might have been prevented, but it’s naïve and unrealistic to believe that FFLs can contribute in a significant, meaningful way to reduce gun crime and violence.

Just as ‘good guy with a gun’ is a myth, so too is the notion of gun shop owners acting as a ‘deterrent’ to gun crime and violence a myth.

 

[saveliberty]

Syracuse University Student Deported After Gun Store Owner Prevents Potential School Shooting

Syracuse University Student Deported After Gun Store Owner Prevents Potential School Shooting


The actions of a small-town gun store owner helped police short-circuit what they believe was a Syracuse University student’s plan to commit a mass shooting.

As a result, Xiaoteng Zhan, 22, was deported to his home country of China last month, according to Syracuse.com. Police did not reveal the incident had taken place until Friday.

In early March, Zhan visited The Gun Store in the Madison County town of Nelson, population 1,980, shop owner John Laubscher told Syracuse.com. The town is about 15 miles from Syracuse. Laubscher said Zhan wanted an AR-15.

Laubscher described Zhan as “on the edge” and said his lack of understanding about guns made him stand out.

As a result of his concerns, Laubscher refused to sell Zhan a gun.

However, Syracuse University acted in the meantime to withdraw Zhan’s status as a student, which meant his visa to study in the U.S. was no longer valid. So, when he returned from spring break on March 20, officials deported him.

This is a text book example of how the gun shop, police, the school and concerned friends can work together.

It’s also a textbook example of a hasty generalization fallacy.

It’s gratifying that a potential act of gun violence might have been prevented, but it’s naïve and unrealistic to believe that FFLs can contribute in a significant, meaningful way to reduce gun crime and violence.

Just as ‘good guy with a gun’ is a myth, so too is the notion of gun shop owners acting as a ‘deterrent’ to gun crime and violence a myth.

No, it is not. I understand you need it to be so, but that doesn't make it reality. This was real life and in real life a gun shop owner set in motion a good thing. Everyone close to the story seems to understand that, you don't. I am sure many people at Syracuse feel that it was significant and meaningful. The only way it is not, is if you refuse to accept the truth. By the way a myth is something that did not happen, this did. If you wish to make a valid argument, feel free. Trolling or making false generalizations are not part of the CDZ.

 

[BULLDOG]

No doubt MSM will not touch. They hate it when one of their robots is stopped before the murders.

It begs the question, how strong is the vetting on student visas.

It begs the question, why didn't he just go to an individual seller? Nobody could have turned him in, because there is no requirement to even give his name.

Seems like you are suppose to not be a felon, that would mean some level of vetting. Someone withholding their name would be reason enough for me to make a no sale.

Yet no possible way to report it to anyone. You thing anyone selling a gun has some magical restriction that makes them care who they sell a gun to? Lots of sellers wouldn't care if a name was supplied. There is no requirement to give any information.

 

[saveliberty]

Yet no possible way to report it to anyone. You thing anyone selling a gun has some magical restriction that makes them care who they sell a gun to? Lots of sellers wouldn't care if a name was supplied. There is no requirement to give any information.

There is also an equal lack of requirement to sell without obtaining as much information as needed to be responsible as a seller. You are arguing a point which did not happen in this situation. Do you disagree that it would be helpful if people reacted as everyone did in this case?

 

[saveliberty]

For weeks we have heard, give us a common sense approach to protecting kids in schools. A gun store owner does something along those lines and the media is almost mute. Why could that possibly be?

 

[BULLDOG]

Yet no possible way to report it to anyone. You thing anyone selling a gun has some magical restriction that makes them care who they sell a gun to? Lots of sellers wouldn't care if a name was supplied. There is no requirement to give any information.

There is also an equal lack of requirement to sell without obtaining as much information as needed to be responsible as a seller. You are arguing a point which did not happen in this situation. Do you disagree that it would be helpful if people reacted as everyone did in this case?

I know private sellers do not behave as the gun shop did in this case. They couldn't behave as the gun shop did in this case.

 

[saveliberty]

No doubt MSM will not touch. They hate it when one of their robots is stopped before the murders.

It begs the question, how strong is the vetting on student visas.

It begs the question, why didn't he just go to an individual seller? Nobody could have turned him in, because there is no requirement to even give his name.

Seems like you are suppose to not be a felon, that would mean some level of vetting. Someone withholding their name would be reason enough for me to make a no sale.

Yet no possible way to report it to anyone. You thing anyone selling a gun has some magical restriction that makes them care who they sell a gun to? Lots of sellers wouldn't care if a name was supplied. There is no requirement to give any information.

Weird, because this gun store owner seemed to be able to report it. He seemed to care. You seem to be straining to make this a negative.

 

[BULLDOG]

For weeks we have heard, give us a common sense approach to protecting kids in schools. A gun store owner does something along those lines and the media is almost mute. Why could that possibly be?

Don't know. Ask fox. I haven't heard anything much from them on the subject.