North Korea Nuclear Test

[Lakhota]

North Korea Nuclear Test: UN Security Council Diplomat Says Country Has Conducted Nuclear Test

North Korea Nuclear Test: White House Issues Statement Condemning Test

 

[tjvh]

So what would you like Obama to do about it, Drone strikes?

 

[Indofred]

How many nuclear tests has America conducted?

America, a country with a long record of invading other countries, moans about a state that has only invaded one, and only then because the US supported pupped government of the south was threatening to destroy North Korea.

 

[Unkotare]

You're an ignorant fool.

 

[Indofred]

You're an ignorant fool.

Please list the number of countries North Korea has invaded or attacked.
When you've found one, South Korea, I'll list all the countries that America has attacked.
The list is a lot longer.

 

[Unkotare]

I didn't expect an ignorant fool to understand what I said.

 

[Indofred]

I didn't expect an ignorant fool to understand what I said.

Your post could easily have been written by a moron. Tell me, do you have an idiot lodging at your house who has your passwords?

Please tell us all why North Korea is a threat.
They've only ever attacked on country, the American puppet in the south that threatened to attack them first.
America, the country that has started more wars than any other, had exploded over a thousand and you moan on about a couple.

Come on - make your point, not just sling insults....if you have a real point.

 

[ThirdTerm]

The UN Security Council is unlikely to take bold steps to penalise North Korea harshly because North Korea's nuclear programme is backed by Russia and China, which needs a stable country as a buffer state along its border, and another UN sanction on the table would be to a mere slap on the wrist. Pyongyang is desperate to possess nuclear-tipped missiles which could strike the US as a deterrent and only Washington's assurance that it would not seek regime change in North Korea would convince Pyongyang that developing nuclear weapons is unnecessary and free the Communist leadership from its old Stalinist paranoia.

Pyongyang said the test was an act of self-defense against "U.S. hostility" and threatened stronger steps if necessary. The test puts pressure on U.S. President Barack Obama on the day of his State of the Union speech and also puts China in a tight spot, since it comes in defiance of Beijing's admonishments to North Korea to avoid escalating tensions. The U.N. Security Council held an emergency meeting at which its members, including China, "strongly condemned" the test and vowed to start work on appropriate measures in response, the president of the council said.
North Korean nuclear test draws anger, including from China | Reuters

 

[GHook93]

So what would you like Obama to do about it, Drone strikes?

First a missile strike of NK weak anti-aircraft defenses and radars. Then the largest air-strike with our state of the art bunker busters since WW II!!!

 

[Katzndogz]

Obama needs to take another Hawaiian vacation.

 

[waltky]

Apparently lil' Kim don't listen to China's advice...

Analysts: Even China may not be able to stop North Korea
February 12, 2013 - While North Korea's latest nuclear test shows it is making steady progress toward a deliverable nuclear weapon, it is not clear whether the international community or China, its greatest trading partner and ally, have enough influence to persuade it to stop, analysts say.

Based on seismic evidence, "we can say with certainty they're getting better at building their nuclear device," said Robert Avagyan, a research analyst at the Institute for Science and International Security, a think tank focused on controlling the spread of nuclear weapons. But North Korea's economy is so isolated that even China, North Korea's No. 1 trading partner, political ally and patron, has little influence on North Korean decision-making, says James Acton, a proliferation expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "North Korea's economy is extremely isolated and focused on self-reliance," Acton said. Despite growing trade with China, there is still "probably not much leverage there."

North Korea's third nuclear test produced a blast of about 10 kilotons, about twice as powerful as the 2009 test and almost 10 times more powerful than the first test, in 2006, Avagyan said. For comparison, the Hiroshima bomb was a 12- to 20-kiloton blast, he said. North Korea said the device it exploded was smaller than previous devices, but the question remains whether it would fit on a ballistic missile of the type that launched a satellite into orbit in December. North Korean officials said after that test that the USA is the target their weapons program is aimed to deter. The United States, its allies, the United Nations, Russia and China urged North Korea not to proceed with the nuclear test and condemned the test after it occurred. North Korea is already subject to severe international sanctions that limit its trade with most of the world.

Professor Yu Chung Sik, a political expert in China's Shanghai International Studies University, says his country's influence on North Korea is waning. "China has less impact on North Korea than before," Yu said. But Acton said that sentiment is a self-serving one adopted by Chinese officials who would rather not take action. Even if China had leverage, it probably would not use it for fear of bringing down the North Korean regime, Acton said. China views its North Korean ally as a crucial buffer keeping the U.S. military from its border. Avagyan said China may respond to North Korea's defiance by signing on to international sanctions that prevent trade of so-called dual use items that North Korea can use for its nuclear program. China could clamp down on some trade with North Korea, he said.

A network of civilian-owned and North Korean front companies funnels supplies for centrifuges, reactors, testing and delivery devices through China, he said. "The Chinese are not as strict in their export controls of dual use materials that would benefit North Korea's nuclear program," Avagyan said. Acton, however, said that China has little control over its remote North Korea border. "At an official level, the Chinese government isn't providing these items," Acton said. "But the borders are very porous and Chinese border controls are very weak. There's a long history of people moving freely across the border."

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N. Korea says it tested miniaturized, more powerful nuclear bomb
February 11, 2013 — North Korea carried out its third — and most powerful — nuclear test Tuesday, ratcheting up concerns about technological advancements by a renegade country that has said it wants to be able to strike at the United States.

Pyongyang said this bomb was also its smallest and lightest, a claim that experts will be trying to verify. They have said the country would need to make advancements in miniaturization in order to fit a bomb atop a long-range ballistic missile — the type of rocket that it successfully tested two months ago when it put a satellite into orbit. The North’s official Korean Central News Agency said the test was aimed at coping with “outrageous” U.S. hostility that “violently” undermines the country’s peaceful, sovereign right to launch satellites. It had been threatening to carry out the nuclear test for weeks.

Thumbing its nose at the international condemnation and sanctions that followed the rocket launch, the North appeared to time its latest provocation for maximum impact and exposure: Most South Koreans were still off work for a long weekend celebrating the lunar new year, and President Barack Obama will give his State of the Union address Tuesday night. Obama called the blast a “highly provocative act” that threatens U.S. security and international peace. The U.N. Security Council was expected to hold an emergency session Tuesday, though it was unclear how effective any fresh sanctions might be, given that the North has shrugged off their impact so far.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon issued a statement Tuesday saying he condemned the test as a “clear and grave violation of the relevant Security Council resolutions.” “It is deplorable that Pyongyang defied the strong and unequivocal call from the international community to refrain from any further provocative measures,” the statement said. “The secretary-general had repeatedly called on the new leadership in Pyongyang to address international concerns and start building confidence with neighboring countries and the international community.”

South Korea and Japan hastily convened their national security councils after the noon test, and Japan launched aircraft to monitor for radioactive material in the air. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered ministries to gather and analyze information “with a sense of urgency” and cooperate with countries concerned, including the United States, South Korea, China and Russia. Media reports said the South Korean and U.S. militaries went on higher alert. The U.S. military here had no immediate comment.

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North Korea nuke test could test China's patience
Feb 12,`13 -- North Korea's nuclear test Tuesday could push China to take a tougher stance against its longtime ally.

Beijing had earlier signaled a growing unhappiness with Pyongyang by agreeing to tightened U.N. sanctions after North Korea launched a rocket in December, surprising China watchers with its unusually tough line, which prompted harsh criticism from Pyongyang. And while China isn't expected to abandon its communist neighbor, it appears to be reassessing ties a year after new North Korean leader Kim Jong Un took office. The question is for how long China, itself under new leader Xi Jinping, will continue to back North Korea's nettlesome policies. "Perhaps Kim Jong Un thinks Xi Jinping will indulge him. Perhaps he's in for a surprise," said Richard Bush, Director of the Center for Northeast Asian Policy Studies at the Brookings Institution in Washington D.C.

However, the Foreign Ministry's initial statement was relatively mild and echoed almost word-for-word China's responses to North Korea's first two nuclear tests in 2006 and 2009. It said China expressed its "firm opposition" to the test, urged a calm response by all sides, and called for new denuclearization talks. China's state broadcaster reported on the earthquake that was the first indication that North Korea might have conducted a test. CCTV quoted residents living along the North Korean border in Jilin province as saying they felt the ground shaking for about one minute around the time the quake hit. North Korea later confirmed carrying out the test.

China is feeling spurned by Kim. Although China welcomed his ascension after his father died in December 2011 and maintained flows of aid and investment, Kim has ignored China's interests in a stable neighborhood with his two rocket launches and nuclear test plan. North Korea announced last month it would conduct a test to protest the toughened U.N. sanctions. "At the start, China gave him a warm welcome and, I think, some aid. But we got no gratitude. They take us for granted," said Jin Canrong, an international affairs expert at Renmin University in Beijing. "China tried to get closer to him, but it was not successful. China has become very disappointed."

Yet Beijing also sees Pyongyang as a crucial buffer against U.S. troops based in South Korea and Japan. It also deeply fears a regime collapse could send swarms of refugees across its border. For those reasons, Beijing is unlikely to cut Pyongyang adrift, even if it pushes North Korea harder to end its nuclear provocations and reform its broken-down economy. "China's not ready to turn the support to North Korea switch to `off' at this stage," said Roger Cavazos, a North Korea watcher at the Nautilus Institute for Security and Sustainability. North Korea's apparent reluctance to reform its economy ranks among Beijing's biggest frustrations, and the thorny nature of the bilateral relationship is on show along the frigid Yalu River, which forms part of the border Chinese troops crossed to rescue North Korean forces during the 1950-53 Korean War.

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[Indofred]

So what would you like Obama to do about it, Drone strikes?

First a missile strike of NK weak anti-aircraft defenses and radars. Then the largest air-strike with our state of the art bunker busters since WW II!!!

Don't worry one day we will kill every last muslim on earth! Hopefully in my life time!

Hate will stop if you come out as the gay that you are.
There's nothing wrong with being homosexual, just life your real life and you won't feel the need to transfer your self hate onto others.

I hope my advice is helpful, ducky.

 

[Arthur Brestlin]

Sorry to reopen this older thread, but something has just occurred to me. The timing of this NK announcement and the events taken place in the Gulf of Mexico about the same time are disturbing. Could the "fire" aboard the Carnival Cruise Triumph on Feb 10th been caused by an EMP nuclear device? Kim Jon Um announced it on 2/12, but it might have occured on 2/10 in another time zone? So, if it's 11PM 2/10 in Houston, it's 1PM in Pyongyan. Thst's too close for me not to become suspicious! Here is a memory refresher:
Carnival Triumph Fire Cruise Ship Adrift Off Mexico Coast After Blaze